Consumer Square driveway

Consumer Square driveway

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Bianca de Passe

Bergen, NY

#1 May 6, 2013
Are they finally building a driveway from Consumer Square to Middle Settlement Road? I see them working back there. I tried driving up the road but Alice said I shouldn't so I just went the other way over by the Orchard.
Crashed

Cazenovia, NY

#2 May 6, 2013
That would be the intelligent thing to do, should have had it long ago. Btw how many knew you couldnt turn left out of Paneras onto commercial drive until it was recently in the news?
Left Turn on Red

United States

#3 May 6, 2013
Crashed wrote:
That would be the intelligent thing to do, should have had it long ago. Btw how many knew you couldnt turn left out of Paneras onto commercial drive until it was recently in the news?
Right. The idiots of New Hartford assumed by painting some white stripes you wouldn't turn left.

KY WELLER
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#4 May 6, 2013
That place sucked for access when we were building it. It is a nightmare to go to now.
Rash Alert

Gouverneur, NY

#6 May 7, 2013
Whitesboro HS and Prison wrote:
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Since you're not supposed to cross solid white stripes by law...
Warning: It's Cliffy the coward slob above. He lives in Cliffyland where the Heat are moving to Utica next year, where his mammy has teeth, where he has a job, where he's not a rashed out fat freak, where he's honorable and shows up when he calls people out, and where Cretin is actually a woman.
Jeez

Liverpool, NY

#7 May 7, 2013
Crashed wrote:
That would be the intelligent thing to do, should have had it long ago. Btw how many knew you couldnt turn left out of Paneras onto commercial drive until it was recently in the news?
Were the no left turn sign and the right turn arrow painted on the ground too ambiguous for you?
Crashed

Cazenovia, NY

#8 May 7, 2013
Yes. The white crosswalk is for walkers. The arrow sign had faded. The no left turn sign? Never noticed it until it was in the news, even then I had to search for it- it's not located near the stop sign. I will follow the law now that I am aware. The lane is very wide to accomodate two lanes of cars, I mistakenly thought one lane was for turning right, the other for turning left. Maybe less accidents over there with better signs. The new driveway should help also.
Left Turn on Red

United States

#9 May 7, 2013
Whitesboro HS and Prison wrote:
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Since you're not supposed to cross solid white stripes by law...
This is a grid, not solid white lines like on a road. People park on similar grids in parking lots, too, because it doesn't say "No Parking."
Left Turn on Red

United States

#12 May 8, 2013
Whitesboro HS and Prison wrote:
Looked at the video again. It's pretty evident a left hand turn shouldn't be made.
http://www.uticaod.com/video/x2082726781/VIDE...
Shouldn't be made, maybe, but it still doesn't say "No Left Turn" there.

Besides, there IS a center turn lane fior easier merging and left turns SHOULD be allowed.
Criffy Alert

Gouverneur, NY

#15 May 9, 2013
Whitesboro HS and Prison wrote:
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I see in the video a huge right arrow only.
Warning: Criffy is posting above. He will attempt to fill you with hate because his life is pathetic and he wants company.
Left Turn on Red

United States

#16 May 9, 2013
Whitesboro HS and Prison wrote:
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I see in the video a huge right arrow only.
Yes, IN the turn lane. Still should say No Left Turn (or Right Turn Only), otherwise, people will do what used to be clearly OK when there were TWO lanes--make a left turn.

And it still should be OK. That's the widest, most open area of Commercial Drive, with a good center turn lane.
Triad

Oneonta, NY

#18 May 10, 2013
Left Turn on Red wrote:
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Shouldn't be made, maybe, but it still doesn't say "No Left Turn" there.
Besides, there IS a center turn lane fior easier merging and left turns SHOULD be allowed.
Let me guess, you probably think the center lane on Seneca Turnpike can be used for left turns onto the turnpike too.
Left Turn on Red

United States

#19 May 12, 2013
A box junction is a road traffic control measure designed to prevent congestion and gridlock at junctions. The surface of the junction is typically marked with a criss-cross grid of diagonal painted lines (or only two lines crossing each other in the box), and vehicles may not enter the area so marked unless their exit from the junction is clear (or, if turning, to await a gap in the oncoming traffic flow).
Left Turn on Red

United States

#20 May 12, 2013
Now, despite box junctions generally being in intersections, there afre still similar types elsewhere-- and it still doesn't say No Left Turn.

My guess is that the law has to be changed at that spot--otherwise, why is there no sign? Other places will have Right Turn Only, for example. Don't blame me, blame the lack of signage.
Jeez

Selkirk, NY

#22 May 17, 2013
Left Turn on Red wrote:
Now, despite box junctions generally being in intersections, there afre still similar types elsewhere-- and it still doesn't say No Left Turn.
My guess is that the law has to be changed at that spot--otherwise, why is there no sign? Other places will have Right Turn Only, for example. Don't blame me, blame the lack of signage.
There is a sign with a left turn arrow and a big red line through it. About 20 ft before the stop sign. It's always been there. That sign too ambiguous? Maybe some remedial picture interpretation is in order. Try your local kindergarten class.
I disagree that no one

Syracuse, NY

#23 May 18, 2013
Crashed wrote:
That would be the intelligent thing to do, should have had it long ago. Btw how many knew you couldnt turn left out of Paneras onto commercial drive until it was recently in the news?
OMG I do that all the time. There is a left turning lane isn't there? Or is it a two lane right turning?

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