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johnny

United States

#53 Dec 29, 2012
The problem with society is we have went from the land of opportunity to the land of the lazy.
johnny

United States

#54 Dec 29, 2012
The trouble with society is we teach our children that people who believe in God are wrong and that same gender sex is normal.
Donnie

Clinton, NY

#55 Dec 29, 2012
Society is not declining it's just easier (internet) and more accessible to see and notice all things bad.
sorry donnie

United States

#56 Dec 29, 2012
Society IS declining
People used to have pride and want to word. Now people want to set home and collect unemployment or welfare
People used to take pride in their apperance. Now people go out in public in their pjs.
People used to raise their own children. Now they sent their children to day carem
People used to feed their children breakfast at home. Now they expect the schhols and government to feed their children.
Donnie wrote:
Society is not declining it's just easier (internet) and more accessible to see and notice all things bad.
true

Cortland, NY

#57 Dec 29, 2012
Think about it when was the last time you actually sat and had dinner as a family. Talked about your day. We have stopped interacting with one another. It's the little things that were so important and we don't do them anymore.
Uncle Ted

Woburn, MA

#58 Dec 29, 2012
Alot of the points brought up in this post are excellent.
I do see a decline in societal values. Things like common courtesy, like saying thank you when someone holds a door for you or vice versa, DOES happen, but not as often as it used to. The same with traffic merging, aisles in the store, or wherever we have some interaction with a stranger. People today are definitely overall more selfish and self-centered. But it is certainly not everybody.
Many of the posters are right on when you speak of a lack of a family structure, children being raised in day care, and no religous faith. Growing up, I did not have a perfect family, but we did stay together. My mother worked the night shift so she could be around during the day for us. My father worked 2, sometimes 3 jobs, but still managed to coach us in Little League and Pop Warner. How did my parents accomplish this? Because they weren't selfish, they sacrificed their time to ensure that myself and my brothers were raised well.
As far as religion goes, we went to church, went to Sunday school, and learned some kind of moral guidelines. I do not attend church now, because I no longer feel the need to. I have my own beliefs concerning the disconnect of God, religion and man, but that is something for some other time.
The point is that, yes certain segments of society are declining. There are still more good people than bad, but I do see many in the younger generations coming up as being lazy, self-centered and not caring much about the future. Because so many of them have been coddled and spoon-fed by their single mothers their whole lives, their thought process is that someone else will take care of them, therefore they really don't need to take care of themselves.
I don't think you can point the finger at any one segment of society, be it a political party, a movement (i.e. Liberalism, Conservatism, etc.), or any one individual for our problems. Though I have certainly commented on my contempt for our President, the guy he replaced was no better. I do not blame Obama for all of our societal ills, but neither is he innocent. He very much pushes an agenda that puts this country in a bad place financially and morally. One poster was correct in saying, that this decline started a long time ago. We are kept fat and lazy and our attentions diverted with the newest I-phone app, or who is going to the Super Bowl, or who is on American Idol, etc., etc., etc.
There are myriad reasons why I see us in decline, but just as many reasons that should give us hope that we will not.
hope

Utica, NY

#59 Jan 3, 2013
Excellent post uncle ted. I agree that we are distracted and kept fat and happy. So many people in America now depend on so many conveniences as if they were necessities. We must have a cell phone, a new car every two years, dunkin donuts coffee everyday, the latest and greatest of everything. We spend so much of what we make, the majority of the middle class now lives paycheck to paycheck and we cant afford to enjoy life or prepare for bad times if they ever come. I know its partly our own fault but the govt pushes consumerism and dependency to the max.
Uncle Ted

Boston, MA

#61 Jan 4, 2013
Thank you both. It does give me a sense of hope that there are still people out there that have an idea of what is going on in our world.
Entertainment

Long Island City, NY

#62 Jan 4, 2013
old timer wrote:
Since I've lived long enough to know how great life was fifty years ago compared to what it is now, here are some of the reasons why I feel Society is on the decline:
1) Lack of moral values
2) Prevalent of drugs (heroin, crack, etc.)
3) Lack of respect for authority (parents, teachers, law enforcement)
4) Lack of personal responsibility.
5) Lack of education
6) Too much violence (video games, movies, etc.)
7) Lack of reglious beliefs.
Fifty years ago families were intact and divorce was a rarity. Women stayed home and men supported their families even if it meant working two jobs to do so.
Profanity and gutter language was not used in public and men acted like gentlemen and women acted and dressed like ladies (not as hookers!).
I'm glad I can still remember the good old days and won't have to live in today's society for much longer.
Absolutely, I think you nailed it Old Timer.
way it is

Utica, NY

#63 Jan 4, 2013
Government entitlement programs such as title 4 d of the Social Security act encourage the further destruction of the family unit. These programs encourage lawyers to fleece families when two parents separate. By awarding primary custody to one parent and ordering child support, a matching federal grant is paid to the state and handed down to the county to fund welfare (TANF).

Rather than advocate true shared parenting, you have the States keeping current legislation the way it is in order to keep the cash flowing. As a result, parents and children are being harmed.

The societal breakdown has been proven to be a planned breakdown when governments abuse their intended powers. We are witnessing it now more than ever through wealth redistribution schemes and hate mongering by our President.
Wondering

Utica, NY

#64 Jan 4, 2013
Here is a question for the left; do you really want to take from those who have and redistribute to those who have not? Do you really believe that we can just keep increasing taxes and increasing spending and never have to answer for it? I am not being sarcastic or demeaning at all. I truly want to know what a liberal thinks. Is it socialism you want? Really? Is the social progressive movement the way you really want to go? No one should be held responsible for their behaviors or actions? It isnt their fault? Please...someone from the left...please explain your position.

Level 7

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#65 Jan 5, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Here is a question for the left; do you really want to take from those who have and redistribute to those who have not? Do you really believe that we can just keep increasing taxes and increasing spending and never have to answer for it? I am not being sarcastic or demeaning at all. I truly want to know what a liberal thinks. Is it socialism you want? Really? Is the social progressive movement the way you really want to go? No one should be held responsible for their behaviors or actions? It isnt their fault? Please...someone from the left...please explain your position.
The answer to your first question: Our Progressive Tax system IS wealth redistribution.
Second Question: Depending on which Taxes you are referring to, we have not continually raised Taxes, if we had we wouldn't have accumulated the Debt we have. The Top Marginal Tax Rate has not been this low since the beginning of last Great Republican Depression. The greatest spending increases have been Defense and Homeland Security, not exactly in the wheel house of the Progressive movement.
The last part wasn't really a question, more of a generalization.
The programs we have created over the last 75 years were in response to the needs of the few, funded by the many. The percentage of individuals who take advantage of those programs is quite low, although some enjoy pretending it is of epidemic proportions.
The United States is unlike any other Country, we choose to do(fund) some things together like our Military, Police, Fire Departments, Public Schools etc. Socialism? Perhaps, but does that make us a "socialist" Country? No. We still have plenty of Private Industry, Government doesn't control the means of production.
bodisattva

Utica, NY

#66 Jan 5, 2013
I am very enlightened
Uncle Ted

Boston, MA

#67 Jan 5, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
<quoted text>The answer to your first question: Our Progressive Tax system IS wealth redistribution.
Second Question: Depending on which Taxes you are referring to, we have not continually raised Taxes, if we had we wouldn't have accumulated the Debt we have. The Top Marginal Tax Rate has not been this low since the beginning of last Great Republican Depression. The greatest spending increases have been Defense and Homeland Security, not exactly in the wheel house of the Progressive movement.
The last part wasn't really a question, more of a generalization.
The programs we have created over the last 75 years were in response to the needs of the few, funded by the many. The percentage of individuals who take advantage of those programs is quite low, although some enjoy pretending it is of epidemic proportions.
The United States is unlike any other Country, we choose to do(fund) some things together like our Military, Police, Fire Departments, Public Schools etc. Socialism? Perhaps, but does that make us a "socialist" Country? No. We still have plenty of Private Industry, Government doesn't control the means of production.
If, as you say, some are pretending that the abuse of welfare is an epidemic, why is it that the United States is the only country in the world who has poor people that are fat, slovenly sloths? Have you ever walked into the county building and looked at who is signing up for their benefits? Let's just say these folks ain't exactly starving.
However, I will agree with you (a rarity for sure), that the current tax system is a form wealth redistribution. The ultra-rich are able to take advantage of loopholes that you and I are not able to. I would love to see a flat tax. Either a percentage of income tax, or a national sales tax. A national sales tax would be far better, because then, even the mutts sitting on porches drinking forties will have to pay sales tax on the shit they buy. Of course that would mean that crime would most likely go up, but that woudn't be a problem, because the American people will be disarmed and won't have any guns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot that the criminals won't actually give up their guns, making the rest of us victims.
patriot

Utica, NY

#68 Jan 5, 2013
Uncle Ted wrote:
<quoted text>
If, as you say, some are pretending that the abuse of welfare is an epidemic, why is it that the United States is the only country in the world who has poor people that are fat, slovenly sloths? Have you ever walked into the county building and looked at who is signing up for their benefits? Let's just say these folks ain't exactly starving.
However, I will agree with you (a rarity for sure), that the current tax system is a form wealth redistribution. The ultra-rich are able to take advantage of loopholes that you and I are not able to. I would love to see a flat tax. Either a percentage of income tax, or a national sales tax. A national sales tax would be far better, because then, even the mutts sitting on porches drinking forties will have to pay sales tax on the shit they buy. Of course that would mean that crime would most likely go up, but that woudn't be a problem, because the American people will be disarmed and won't have any guns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot that the criminals won't actually give up their guns, making the rest of us victims.
I will not be dis armed. No way no how
Bodhi is an idiot

New Hartford, NY

#69 Jan 6, 2013
Ever since Society has found that leech life is acceptable society has declined. People used to be ashamed to live life off the system and be leeches, not leeches like Bodhi live off the system and are proud of their failure to earn their own money.

Level 5

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#70 Jan 6, 2013
Bodhi is an idiot wrote:
Ever since Society has found that leech life is acceptable society has declined. People used to be ashamed to live life off the system and be leeches, not leeches like Bodhi live off the system and are proud of their failure to earn their own money.
Hey Penis Leech, I thought you had killed yourself. Obama is reelected, Zimmerman is guilty, gays are getting married, the economy is doing great. Of course I predicted all of this. While you were dead wrong about evrything. As I've said before, political analysis is not for everyone. You seem more like a Nascar, pro wrestling sort to me. BTW allthat idiotic "leech talk" just cost the G.O.P. the election. Keep it up stupid and you will fork over Congress too. My God, you're a stupid little man!
Bodhi is an idiot

New Hartford, NY

#71 Jan 6, 2013
The economy is doing great?

Taxes went UP 2% on all employed people, of course that does not include leeches like you.
Health Insurace costs went UP, even thou Obama promised they woule go down, again that does not effect a welfare leech like you.
Gas prices are rising again, of course your welfare bike does not take gas.
Unemployment is UP, but of course leeches like you are not looking for work.
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Penis Leech, I thought you had killed yourself. Obama is reelected, Zimmerman is guilty, gays are getting married, the economy is doing great. Of course I predicted all of this. While you were dead wrong about evrything. As I've said before, political analysis is not for everyone. You seem more like a Nascar, pro wrestling sort to me. BTW allthat idiotic "leech talk" just cost the G.O.P. the election. Keep it up stupid and you will fork over Congress too. My God, you're a stupid little man!
true

Cortland, NY

#72 Jan 6, 2013
There are many things wrong with government, but the decline of society exists in our own homes, its how we raise our children. Poor or not if the kid wants an iPhone the parent finds a way to get it. Remember not to long ago unless it was Christmas or your birthday if you wanted something you found a way to earn the money, because your parents weren't going to get it for you. You mowed lawns, raked leaves, painted houses, baby sat,helped dig post holes and put up fences, picked up groceries for the elderly neighbor and so on...... Now kids don't work for anything. They don't even have to have good grades in school to get it. We are teaching kids to think they are entitled and when they get out in the real world they can't hack it, because your college professor or boss isn't going to hand you good grades or a paycheck just for showing up.

Level 7

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#73 Jan 6, 2013
Uncle Ted wrote:
<quoted text>
If, as you say, some are pretending that the abuse of welfare is an epidemic, why is it that the United States is the only country in the world who has poor people that are fat, slovenly sloths? Have you ever walked into the county building and looked at who is signing up for their benefits? Let's just say these folks ain't exactly starving.
However, I will agree with you (a rarity for sure), that the current tax system is a form wealth redistribution. The ultra-rich are able to take advantage of loopholes that you and I are not able to. I would love to see a flat tax. Either a percentage of income tax, or a national sales tax. A national sales tax would be far better, because then, even the mutts sitting on porches drinking forties will have to pay sales tax on the shit they buy. Of course that would mean that crime would most likely go up, but that woudn't be a problem, because the American people will be disarmed and won't have any guns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot that the criminals won't actually give up their guns, making the rest of us victims.
You ask."why is it that the United States is the only country in the world who has poor people that are fat?" The cheapest food is also the least nutritious and the most fattening. Have you ever shopped for nothing but healthy food? It is quite expensive. Considerably more than $7 a day, which is the average food stamp allotment per person.
The "we have the richest poor people" argument is nonsense.

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