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righty

Windsor, CT

#44 Jan 11, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
<quoted text>The point was not which side was right or wrong, the point was the inability to rebel against our own Government with force. Yes the Tax was repealed, through the proper procedure, Politically.
We are our Government, when a majority decides they want change(in taxes or gun laws)they elect those who will accomplish those things, raising arms against the U.S.Gov ernment is an act in futility. This is more true today than it was then, the argument that we need weapons to stand against a tyrannical government is nonsense.
So, you would propose that the people should oust a tyrannical regime at their next convenience, the next general election? Hypothetically, how would you overtake this regime when they change the rules on voting, or hypothetically, extend the term of office of their supreme leader without a vote? Talk about futility, foolish actually. I will accept the loss if liberty after a proper protest, but will not allow it to be taken away, nor will I give it away by failing to act on such a threat. Keep in mind, nobody has suggested an overthrow of the US Government. We simply disagree with a misguided administration in the Executive branch. The hurdles to overcome in the Legislative and Judicial, not to mention States, are not insignificant.

You may relish the thought that we on the right are foolish to oppose the will of the government, but history will prove once again that the fools were the ones who opposed the people.
righty

Wellesley, MA

#45 Jan 12, 2013
well???

no further comment from the omniscient socialist?

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#46 Jan 14, 2013
righty wrote:
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So, you would propose that the people should oust a tyrannical regime at their next convenience, the next general election? Hypothetically, how would you overtake this regime when they change the rules on voting, or hypothetically, extend the term of office of their supreme leader without a vote? Talk about futility, foolish actually. I will accept the loss if liberty after a proper protest, but will not allow it to be taken away, nor will I give it away by failing to act on such a threat. Keep in mind, nobody has suggested an overthrow of the US Government. We simply disagree with a misguided administration in the Executive branch. The hurdles to overcome in the Legislative and Judicial, not to mention States, are not insignificant.
You may relish the thought that we on the right are foolish to oppose the will of the government, but history will prove once again that the fools were the ones who opposed the people.
Your premise is based on fear and paranoia, the fact that a particular person whom you dislike has been elected President does not mean he is a Tyrant. Don't you find it strange, while the drastic expansion of Presidential power was being imposed following 9/11/2001 No one on the Right was screaming about Tyranny?
The reality is, most of the Political overreach over the last 4 years has been on the Right, as it was during the previous 8 Years, the Re election of President Obama was a Mandate by the People to Balance the Republican Overreach in the House.
You are not losing your Liberty just because you don't like Obama personally.
righty

Boston, MA

#47 Jan 14, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
<quoted text>Your premise is based on fear and paranoia, the fact that a particular person whom you dislike has been elected President does not mean he is a Tyrant. Don't you find it strange, while the drastic expansion of Presidential power was being imposed following 9/11/2001 No one on the Right was screaming about Tyranny?
The reality is, most of the Political overreach over the last 4 years has been on the Right, as it was during the previous 8 Years, the Re election of President Obama was a Mandate by the People to Balance the Republican Overreach in the House.
You are not losing your Liberty just because you don't like Obama personally.
You continue to disappoint me, with a moniker like "Bodhisvata" I had expected more. Rather than enlightening us with fact you continuously blather about west wing taking points. You actually are starting to bore me.

In short, everything you said is untrue. 12 years of political overreach by the Republicans? That is probably the most ridiculous statement I've seen to date from you leftists, and there have been many. By that statement alone you have disqualified yourself as a legitimate participant in any discussion above the importance of yesterdays high temperature. Even then, you would probably tie that temperature to a failed Republican policy.

Its telling that you didn't respond to the "omniscient socialist" comment. Silence often speaks louder than words.

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#48 Jan 16, 2013
righty wrote:
well???
no further comment from the omniscient socialist?
I didn't respond to this, because I thought it was foolish.
I don't know everything, and I'm not a Socialist. I am a Democratic Socialist.
Wrong again

Astoria, NY

#49 Jan 16, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't respond to this, because I thought it was foolish.
I don't know everything, and I'm not a Socialist. I am a Democratic Socialist.
You and Alex Jones operate the same way... You use half truths to prop up lies and falsehoods. You get all bent out of shape when it becomes clear people see you're full of shzt.

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#50 Jan 16, 2013
righty wrote:
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You continue to disappoint me, with a moniker like "Bodhisvata" I had expected more. Rather than enlightening us with fact you continuously blather about west wing taking points. You actually are starting to bore me.
In short, everything you said is untrue. 12 years of political overreach by the Republicans? That is probably the most ridiculous statement I've seen to date from you leftists, and there have been many. By that statement alone you have disqualified yourself as a legitimate participant in any discussion above the importance of yesterdays high temperature. Even then, you would probably tie that temperature to a failed Republican policy.
Its telling that you didn't respond to the "omniscient socialist" comment. Silence often speaks louder than words.
Are you aware of the number of "abortion" related bills the 112th congress voted on? Overreach. Do you recall how many Republicans members of the house were calling for greater restrictions on Voting? Overreach. Do you recall the 2011 debt ceiling stonewalling by Boehner's House that resulted in our credit downgrade? Overreach.
Are you aware of the concerted and perhaps conspired effort by Republicans in the House and Senate to block everything This President wanted? Overreach.
The overreach during the 8 years prior to Obama included an attempt to privatize Social Security, 2 Wars on the National Credit card, 2 Tax cuts not offset by other funds or cuts, Medicare part D not paid for which doesn't allow for negotiating prescription costs, A bloated new Government agency(Home Land Security).
All this from the Party that claims to be concerned about the National Debt. OVERREACH! After causing HUGE additions to our Debt, the GOP has the audacity to blame it on the next administration.
It is distressing how gullible the American People are, they blame Obama for "out of control" spending because that's what they hear Republicans repeat over and over, they leave out the fact that Congress controls the power of the purse,
righty

Woburn, MA

#51 Jan 17, 2013
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Bodhisatva wrote:
<quoted text>Are you aware of the number of "abortion" related bills the 112th congress voted on? Overreach. Do you recall how many Republicans members of the house were calling for greater restrictions on Voting? Overreach. Do you recall the 2011 debt ceiling stonewalling by Boehner's House that resulted in our credit downgrade? Overreach.
Are you aware of the concerted and perhaps conspired effort by Republicans in the House and Senate to block everything This President wanted? Overreach.
The overreach during the 8 years prior to Obama included an attempt to privatize Social Security, 2 Wars on the National Credit card, 2 Tax cuts not offset by other funds or cuts, Medicare part D not paid for which doesn't allow for negotiating prescription costs, A bloated new Government agency(Home Land Security).
All this from the Party that claims to be concerned about the National Debt. OVERREACH! After causing HUGE additions to our Debt, the GOP has the audacity to blame it on the next administration.
It is distressing how gullible the American People are, they blame Obama for "out of control" spending because that's what they hear Republicans repeat over and over, they leave out the fact that Congress controls the power of the purse,
I was wrong, you are not capable of discussing even the most trivial facts.
It is sad, assuming you participate in our voting process, that you consider it overreach when Congress attempts to control spending. Yes, Congress controls the power of the purse, precisely why they feel it necessary to limit the exponential growth of our debt.
Keep in mind, as you claim you understand , Congress controls government spending. So how can you continuously blame Republicans who have only controlled the House for the last 2 years, while the Dems controlled the Senate? Arguably, without Republican resistance to our out of control spending we would likely be $20T in debt by now. To say the Republicans are at fault for the 2011 budget crisis is ludicrous. It was the Democrats again seeking a debt limit increase, and Obamas veto threats if his spending wasnt approved in full. In case you don't understand finance, increased debt results in a lower credit rating, conversely, spending cuts would reduce the debt and subsequently improve the credit rating.
Its plain dishonest to place blame for our current budget woes on the 112th. You seen to have forgotten the 110th and 111th when both chambers were led by the Democrats. We may have had a Republican President during the 110th, but he admittedly like to spend, never poised much of a veto threat in his 7th and 8th year. It will never be disputed that the 111th , combined with the failed leadership of Obama, was one of the worst legislative sessions in history. Some may say they did their job very well, legislating and spending like no other Congress to date. In fact, they added more debt and multiplied entitlements that will continue to weigh down the economy for years. You may recall, the voters of the US rewarded the 111th with a massive "house cleaning" for its efforts.
You like to blame our fiscal problems on Republicans who strive to control spending, while giving a pass to a President who has spent more then every other combined? A President dismantling the Constitution by Executive Order, do you want to talk about OVERREACH? Surely as an alleged constitutional scholar the President understands the separation of power?
Nobody can argue the current Democrats are solely responsible for historic spending growth, continued record unemployment, a flailing economy, etc.....not honestly anyway.
You want to talk about Overreach and bloated government, seriously? Talk about gullible. Tail, meet dog.

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#52 Jan 17, 2013
righty wrote:
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I was wrong, you are not capable of discussing even the most trivial facts.
It is sad, assuming you participate in our voting process, that you consider it overreach when Congress attempts to control spending. Yes, Congress controls the power of the purse, precisely why they feel it necessary to limit the exponential growth of our debt.
Keep in mind, as you claim you understand , Congress controls government spending. So how can you continuously blame Republicans who have only controlled the House for the last 2 years, while the Dems controlled the Senate? Arguably, without Republican resistance to our out of control spending we would likely be $20T in debt by now. To say the Republicans are at fault for the 2011 budget crisis is ludicrous. It was the Democrats again seeking a debt limit increase, and Obamas veto threats if his spending wasnt approved in full. In case you don't understand finance, increased debt results in a lower credit rating, conversely, spending cuts would reduce the debt and subsequently improve the credit rating.
Its plain dishonest to place blame for our current budget woes on the 112th. You seen to have forgotten the 110th and 111th when both chambers were led by the Democrats. We may have had a Republican President during the 110th, but he admittedly like to spend, never poised much of a veto threat in his 7th and 8th year. It will never be disputed that the 111th , combined with the failed leadership of Obama, was one of the worst legislative sessions in history. Some may say they did their job very well, legislating and spending like no other Congress to date. In fact, they added more debt and multiplied entitlements that will continue to weigh down the economy for years. You may recall, the voters of the US rewarded the 111th with a massive "house cleaning" for its efforts.
You like to blame our fiscal problems on Republicans who strive to control spending, while giving a pass to a President who has spent more then every other combined? A President dismantling the Constitution by Executive Order, do you want to talk about OVERREACH? Surely as an alleged constitutional scholar the President understands the separation of power?
Nobody can argue the current Democrats are solely responsible for historic spending growth, continued record unemployment, a flailing economy, etc.....not honestly anyway.
You want to talk about Overreach and bloated government, seriously? Talk about gullible. Tail, meet dog.
You are now becoming ridiculous, Standard and Poors made it perfectly clear.
"The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed," the company said. "The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy."
This was thanks to the Republicans.
You can accuse me of a lack of understanding, but you are either guilty of a bad memory or you lack the ability to be truthful.
The Republicans in Congress have NOT Tried to control spending, they have done an awesome job of providing great Lip Service to the "debt problem" the one thing they NEVER do though, is tale responsibility for it.
I suggest you look in to what's know as the "two santa claus theory" suggested by GOP strategist Jude Wanniski in the 1970's as a long term approach to Electoral success.
The reality is, this has been the Republican strategy since Ronald Reagan. When there is a Republican in the White House, run up the debt like crazy, and when there is a Democrat in the White House Scream Bloody Murder about the Debt, and "out of control" spending.
You believe what you've been told about Dems, while reality stares you in the face. Truly Sad.

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#54 Jan 17, 2013
Ian Hob wrote:
<quoted text>Wait, isn't that the same S&P that rated New Hartford AAA less than a year before Earle Reed the greaseballs admitted they'd blown every cent in the budget and rainy day fund? I attacked them at S&P over that and then pissed them all off again when I sent them links to the bad news. S&P is a ruse.
What is that about reality staring you in the face? FIFTY MILLION NEW WELFARE RECIPIENTS UNDER OBAMA sounds like a republican or Indy problem to you? Of course it does!
Get ready for the antidem wave you sow!
Welfare reform seemed like such a Great Idea in the 1990's because we were in a Boom economy, we fell into recession starting in 2006, 2007, so how exactly is the increase Obama's fault? I think you may have a case of Obama derangement syndrome.
And you are not really trying to compare New Fu**ing Hartford's finances with that of the Federal Government are you?
How much international implication does that little town have?

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#55 Jan 17, 2013
Ian Hob wrote:
<quoted text>Wait, isn't that the same S&P that rated New Hartford AAA less than a year before Earle Reed the greaseballs admitted they'd blown every cent in the budget and rainy day fund? I attacked them at S&P over that and then pissed them all off again when I sent them links to the bad news. S&P is a ruse.
What is that about reality staring you in the face? FIFTY MILLION NEW WELFARE RECIPIENTS UNDER OBAMA sounds like a republican or Indy problem to you? Of course it does!
Get ready for the antidem wave you sow!
?"Get ready for the antidem wave you sow!"???
Do you mean Anti Dem? as in Democrats?????
Are you on drugs?
Have you seen the lunatics who represent themselves as Republicans?
Democrats are idiots

New Hartford, NY

#56 Jan 17, 2013
Send Piers Morgan back to Russia, his own country does not want his communist ass.

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