Immigrants crying because cops don't...
Nonsense

United States

#25 Apr 7, 2013
We need a good old fashioned conservative republican or just a good old fashioned american period, back in the presidents seat to redirect this nation back into the right direction

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#26 Apr 7, 2013
I Agree wrote:
<quoted text>I know I'll get flamed for this by the political correctness police as well as everyone on this site who likes to slam Italian Americans. But I'm gonna say it anyway.
I have an uncle who came right from Italy when he was a little boy (this was back in the 1940's). Back then, you were expected to learn the language as quickly as possible once you arrived in America, and there wasn't much in the way of help if you didn't: no interpretors or public signs in multiple languages were provided. When you first arrived, you could hope to have a friend or relative help you, but it was on you to learn the language. My uncle once told me that a teacher at his elementary school told him he would advance further in life if he worked to get rid of his accent..advice he took and never regreted. Can you imagine the outcry against a teacher now who gave a child this advice?
The same story told by all the old timers in all our families.
The Truth

Utica, NY

#27 Apr 7, 2013
First of all..I totally agree with the posts that are stating that these people should know our English language if they plan to live here. We accept them here..in turn..they should learn how to first understand our way of life and too respect people in uniform in the first place. I think it's absurd to try to place blame on the police because of this incident. Awful to say...but most..not all..of Puerto Rican people are confrontational anyway and look for any reason to fight..It's very well-known..but to lack respect for authority and then try to blame the authority for wrong doing is disgusting and wrong!!!!!!!!!! I do not like the posts though that are throwing in pit bulls in this whole topic. Once again the animals that have no reason to be are being degraded on these forums. People make animals what they are!!! that's right PEOPLE...and if they are in the wrong hands..the animals no know other way to behave. I just had to state that as it's very upsetting to label these dogs. These people are animals in and of themselves and I'm sorry..but I'm glad the authority did what they had to do..They are sons, brothers, husbands and fathers many of them and they do not and should not have to deal with low-life people as it is..let along immigrants who are clueless. Each and every day I drive my car on the roads...I'm nearly killed by Asians, Puerto Ricans, Bosnians and I mean this as they do not respect the rules of the road either.. Keep letting them in the city.. Seems to be working out so great.. NOT!!!!!!!!!!
fed up

Wethersfield, CT

#28 Apr 7, 2013
I say you come here you learn to speak English! My family did. No other country will bend over backwards for you. They will laugh in your face and send you on your way. What's sad is that most of our Puerto Rican population in Utica is second generation US born. They refuse to speak the language and have children and raise them only to speak Spanish. Since when does someone living in the US for twenty years need an interpreter? This is the case for many of our population. Its sickening!

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#29 Apr 7, 2013
fed up wrote:
I say you come here you learn to speak English! My family did. No other country will bend over backwards for you. They will laugh in your face and send you on your way. What's sad is that most of our Puerto Rican population in Utica is second generation US born. They refuse to speak the language and have children and raise them only to speak Spanish. Since when does someone living in the US for twenty years need an interpreter? This is the case for many of our population. Its sickening!
Very true.I would like to add though I do know some who get just as pissed about it.

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#30 Apr 7, 2013
And why when puerto Ricans talk to each other in spanish do they have to yell it so anyone with in 40ft. of them has to hear it like they are standing rite next to them.If you go into a building and they are talking they are yelling so loud thats all you can hear.Do people not whisper or talk at a normal volume in the Caribbean or S.America?

Level 8

Since: Jul 12

Brooklyn, NY

#31 Apr 7, 2013
Wow. These idiots have a lot of nerve. I say learn English or get the fuvk out. It's really pretty simple. All this country does Is bend over backwards not to offend anyone. Fuvk em is what I say. Go back to where you came from or blend in to our way of life.

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#32 Apr 7, 2013
Marty Peppershorts wrote:
Wow. These idiots have a lot of nerve. I say learn English or get the fuvk out. It's really pretty simple. All this country does Is bend over backwards not to offend anyone. Fuvk em is what I say. Go back to where you came from or blend in to our way of life.
That is it.Don't offend anyone.As if offending someone with thin skin is the worst thing you can do. We wonder why kids are a bunch of wimps who commit suicide because someone picked on them.Because we raise them that way when we all are scared not offend.I remember being a kid in the '80s comeing home pouting because of bullies .What did my old man do God bless him do? Told me to suck it up and don't cry never let them see you cry or get emotional.Walk away twice and the third time pound em to the ground and take the punishmaent that comes.Can't say that no more because nowadays " feelings" matter.Your sensitivities are your problem yours alone man up and grow some skin.
Sam

Greig, NY

#33 Apr 7, 2013
WHAT wrote:
Six individuals plan to file lawsuits against Utica
Story Created: Apr 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM EDT
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Story Updated: Apr 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM EDT )
UTICA, N.Y.(WKTV)- A family claiming excessive police force sat down with the Utica Police Chief and the Utica Mayor Friday, to talk about an incident that was caught on tape.
On Thursday, the group staged a peaceful protest that got the attention of city officials. Six members of the family are now filing lawsuits against the city. "They saw the video tape," said Vivian Maldonado, speaking on behalf of the family. "They spoke about what happened, what they can do to help us."
Maldonado is Puerto Rican and so is her husband's family. Many of them only speak Spanish. All parties agree, there's a language barrier in the city. "That's a big problem with a lot of nationalities in Utica," said Maldonado. "There's a lot of different cultures and there's not a lot of people who know how to speak all these languages."
Family members say back on March 27th, there was a disagreement between neighbors over a parking spot. Soon afterwards, the cops were called. "The problem was already escalated when the cops got there but it could have been resolved if the officers did speak Spanish," said Maldonado. "Spanish speaking officers could of interpreted it and said calm down- or have someone there to help the situation but they didn't have that."
Family members say police used excessive force and made several unnecessary arrests. Chief Williams says cases like this deserve investigation. "When I came here what I was mainly interested in 'was there alleged police misconduct?' and that was my main goal for coming here because if there was, I have the responsibility to hold my own officers responsible if that was the case," said Utica Police Chief Williams. "It gives us some opportunity to see if there was some wrongdoing on our officers part or as a community as a police department we can do better by maybe training to try and break some barriers, trying to explain to their community their group to explain to them what police procedure is about. We'd be willing to do that."
Chief Williams was able to watch the video. "I didn't see anything damning, that was anything out of the ordinary," said Chief Williams. "But in fairness to them they are currently sitting with the guys from Office of Professional Standards to go over frame by frame of the video."
Six members of the family are filing lawsuits against the city. Each filed written complaints inside City Hall on Friday.
Maldonado says her father-in-law was beat by police officers during his arrest last month. She interpreted some of what he was saying inside City Hall on Friday. "He says he wants the racism to stop. He says we're Puerto Ricans, but we're citizens. They treated us like immigrants and we're not."
The family said overall they were pretty satisfied with the meeting and with Chief Williams. They say he was very nice and listened to what they had to say.
The man who was filming the video was also arrested that day. He says it was devastating, especially for it to happen in front of his small children. He says he was not doing anything wrong and would simply like an apology from the officer that arrested him. He says he is studying English so that he could become a police officer in Utica.
The family says fixing the language barrier in the city would be a huge step in the right direction and are calling this a big misunderstanding.
The family members who are filing lawsuits against the city say they are meeting with their lawyers to determine how to move forward.
Who is the Lawyer, Helping file the law suit
mcloven

Utica, NY

#34 Apr 7, 2013
fed up wrote:
I say you come here you learn to speak English! My family did. No other country will bend over backwards for you. They will laugh in your face and send you on your way. What's sad is that most of our Puerto Rican population in Utica is second generation US born. They refuse to speak the language and have children and raise them only to speak Spanish. Since when does someone living in the US for twenty years need an interpreter? This is the case for many of our population. Its sickening!
I agree with part of this. I have been to many different countries and found most people I spoke with knew English, and in Greece many restaurants had flags outside indicating which launages they spoke to help you order. This is true with most all younger people not so much older people.
hank hill

Lake Geneva, WI

#35 Apr 7, 2013
Marty Peppershorts wrote:
Wow. These idiots have a lot of nerve. I say learn English or get the fuvk out. It's really pretty simple. All this country does Is bend over backwards not to offend anyone. Fuvk em is what I say. Go back to where you came from or blend in to our way of life.
listen, if I somehow was offended by this would I get some free money? Lol
Nonsense

United States

#36 Apr 7, 2013
Sam wrote:
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Who is the Lawyer, Helping file the law suit
Someone who is in it just for the money because it is obvious they are going to lose fast so it's a quick payday for the lawyer either way.

Level 8

Since: Jul 12

Brooklyn, NY

#37 Apr 7, 2013
hank hill wrote:
<quoted text>
listen, if I somehow was offended by this would I get some free money? Lol
Lol
Da Cop

Utica, NY

#39 Apr 7, 2013
Sam wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is the Lawyer, Helping file the law suit
Hope it's that brad margoli. If so they're sure to lose!

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#40 Apr 7, 2013
hank hill wrote:
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listen, if I somehow was offended by this would I get some free money? Lol
Your to white and your english too good to have a chance.
hank hill

Chicago, IL

#41 Apr 7, 2013
Marty Peppershorts wrote:
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Lol
I got bills n shit man lol
Da Cop

Utica, NY

#42 Apr 7, 2013
Lets finally shut down the doors to immigration for good and send 'em all back home, including puerto rica, starting with the illegal in the white house mascarading as a legit president.
hank hill

Chicago, IL

#43 Apr 7, 2013
DotDashDashDotDot wrote:
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Your to white and your english too good to have a chance.
I could always pull the woman card...it doesn't work as well as the race or language card anymore but its what I got to work with over here lol

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#44 Apr 7, 2013
Da Cop wrote:
Lets finally shut down the doors to immigration for good and send 'em all back home, including puerto rica, starting with the illegal in the white house mascarading as a legit president.
It would not change anything.Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth.Puerto Ricans are there considered citizens of the U.S. meaning they are not immigrants.Someone who knows so little about presant borders and boundries along with it's citizenship laws should probably keep quiet about the citizenship status of others.

Level 1

Since: Mar 13

Livonia, NY

#45 Apr 7, 2013
hank hill wrote:
<quoted text>
I could always pull the woman card...it doesn't work as well as the race or language card anymore but its what I got to work with over here lol
Oh so your really a Peggy Platter.Hank Rutherford Hill you scamp you had me fooled.

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