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“Getting To The Meat Of It”

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#22 Jun 27, 2013
Red wrote:
I grew up in the Utica area in the 50's and left after college and a few years at GE's radio receiver department. In scanning this forum I'm chagrined at most of the subject matter, language and aspersions that I see here. It sounds like a third world country. There must be some normal people still living in Utica. Just curious, don't mean to start an argument.
It probably has changed as has most of New York. I too lived here in the early 70's and moved away. Work brought me back to the area. But it is what it is, and it is what you make of it. The racist and perversion you read here are a select few, and not representative of the whole.
sick of it

Whitesboro, NY

#24 Jun 27, 2013
Mr Meat Head wrote:
<quoted text>It probably has changed as has most of New York. I too lived here in the early 70's and moved away. Work brought me back to the area. But it is what it is, and it is what you make of it. The racist and perversion you read here are a select few, and not representative of the whole.
Correct it's representative of the working class which in Utica is a minority!
Roma

Brooklyn, NY

#25 Jun 27, 2013
Utica isn't bad, just don't get involved in shady dealings...
well

New York, NY

#26 Jun 28, 2013
sorry wrote:
But Utica has drastically changed. Aspirations of the current generation include, hustling, becoming a rap star, getting high, posting half naked pics on FB, hooking up and having multiple kids with different partners then expecting everyone else to raise them and support them. Deciding which pair of Pjs to wear to Walmart on the first of the month. Complaining about everything. The normal people either moved out or live in hiding.
Hate to tell you but this goes on everywhere.
harry

Utica, NY

#27 Jun 28, 2013
Utica is the armpit of the state.
Phryg

Ardsley, NY

#28 Jun 28, 2013
LOL Whitesboro Trash wrote:
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Nothing exceptional. Actually it's unexceptional. Lol
Now what about new hartford?
truth

Whitesboro, NY

#29 Jun 28, 2013
New Hartford is the next Utica. The town is well staffed with law enforcement to squelch many of the problems that currently exist long before the media picks up on the story. There is a clash between the ruling elite who knows their days are numbered as they steadily decline as a result of death. The handwriting is on the wall as alcoholism and rampant drug use plague the once respected community. New Hartford is not insulated from Utica's problems and in 5 years or so, it will get bad!
Stan

Penn Yan, NY

#30 Jun 28, 2013
truth wrote:
New Hartford is the next Utica. The town is well staffed with law enforcement to squelch many of the problems that currently exist long before the media picks up on the story. There is a clash between the ruling elite who knows their days are numbered as they steadily decline as a result of death. The handwriting is on the wall as alcoholism and rampant drug use plague the once respected community. New Hartford is not insulated from Utica's problems and in 5 years or so, it will get bad!
I agree with you that New Hartford eventually will become the new Utica. I can see it happening already. In the village, large single family homes are being made into multi unit apartments. Other smaller homes are becoming rental properties. Though there is nothing wrong with having an apartment complex, there is an issue when homes designed for a single family are now the residence of three or four. It brings down the value and the quality of the neighborhood. As Utica deteriorates, people who can't find low decent low priced housing will look towards New Hartford. Utica is a cancer that is spreading to all the areas close to it. As its former nice neighborhoods have crumbled into run down ghetto areas, the surrounding communities will go along with it. Our only hope now is that we sell our homes while they still have some decent value, and move to another place that does not have such a high percentage of this sort of blight. At least in other cities, this sort of thing is contained and confined to certain parts of the city, while here in Utica and its suburbs, it is the entire and whole area.
if you feel so

Carthage, NY

#31 Jun 28, 2013
Thomas wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with Utica, is that it really has nothing exceptional to offer to anyone who has any idea what things are like in most other parts of the country. Utica is mired in the mediocre. It is an unremarkable city with nothing special or interesting. There are plenty of well educated, talented people here. Eventually, they all wind up leaving for other places. With very limited opportunities, smart young people have no reason to live here. The best and brightest will make more money and live better lives most anywhere else. Anyone in Utica who has any degree of success, has acheived that success because they are related by marriage or birth to certain Utica families. There is really not much going on here. There is little to no nightlife. There is no culture. No worthwhile sports, or a high frequency of quality entertainment. We have all the things here that you can find anywhere else, and nothing that is truly special or unique. I do not consider tomatoe pie or chicken riggies worthy of local pride. A new, silly roundabout traffic circle in the center of a ghetto is not a source of civic pride. The Boilermaker roadrace is the only thing in Utica that approaches anything of importance. However, this once a year event does not make up for the other 364 days of boredom. I feel that the negative tone of many of these posts are due to most people expressing their frustrations with life in this area. We know things can be better, but we are powerless in effecting any change. Too many native Uticans don't realize how disgusting this area is, and are content to live in this urban dump. Many of us are embarrassed by the local media, most notably WKTV, which is laughably bad, and incoherent. Whenever I'm asked by someone where I'm from, I never admit to living in Utica. My response is that I live close to Syracuse. I wish I lived in a city that I could be proud to say I was from, but sadly, when most people hear "Utica", they are already aware of its bad reputation.
strongly about Utica, then get the hell out.....It is not even a fraction as bad as you make it...move on, nitwit! we don't need YOU here.
Henry Wadsworth

New York Mills, NY

#32 Jun 28, 2013
Stan wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you that New Hartford eventually will become the new Utica. I can see it happening already. In the village, large single family homes are being made into multi unit apartments. Other smaller homes are becoming rental properties. Though there is nothing wrong with having an apartment complex, there is an issue when homes designed for a single family are now the residence of three or four. It brings down the value and the quality of the neighborhood. As Utica deteriorates, people who can't find low decent low priced housing will look towards New Hartford. Utica is a cancer that is spreading to all the areas close to it. As its former nice neighborhoods have crumbled into run down ghetto areas, the surrounding communities will go along with it. Our only hope now is that we sell our homes while they still have some decent value, and move to another place that does not have such a high percentage of this sort of blight. At least in other cities, this sort of thing is contained and confined to certain parts of the city, while here in Utica and its suburbs, it is the entire and whole area.
Yes the entire Washington Mills Corridor has turned ghetto. The Hillside Gardens portion of Oxford Road as well. Section 8 housing is alive and well. The "Manors" was once the West Utica of New Hartford, but it actually looks good compared to it's reputation of year's ago. The village is crumbling fast. It's not uncommon now to see all races frequenting the sidewalks as you drive along Genesee Street. This is how it all starts. The lilly white image of town is fading fast. The library and parks are utilized by minorities soon to be new town residents.
my thoughts

Utica, NY

#33 Jun 28, 2013
A huge mistake was made when they decided to move the state prisons from the Brooklyn and outerborough areas to Central NY. The state screwed this city by doing that. In came the inner city friends and relatives to live closeby to their hoodlum kin in lock-up.

Close down the prisons here. That will get the incarcerated and their families out of the area.
Henry Wadsworth

New York Mills, NY

#34 Jun 28, 2013
my thoughts wrote:
A huge mistake was made when they decided to move the state prisons from the Brooklyn and outerborough areas to Central NY. The state screwed this city by doing that. In came the inner city friends and relatives to live closeby to their hoodlum kin in lock-up.
Close down the prisons here. That will get the incarcerated and their families out of the area.
And that would mean the loss of public service jobs! So, what. It might make NY more attractive for private industry!
yes

Utica, NY

#35 Jun 28, 2013
my thoughts wrote:
A huge mistake was made when they decided to move the state prisons from the Brooklyn and outerborough areas to Central NY. The state screwed this city by doing that. In came the inner city friends and relatives to live closeby to their hoodlum kin in lock-up.
Close down the prisons here. That will get the incarcerated and their families out of the area.
Now that is something they could and SHOULD do.
Trash In Whitesboro

Clifton Park, NY

#39 Jun 30, 2013
my thoughts wrote:
A huge mistake was made when they decided to move the state prisons from the Brooklyn and outerborough areas to Central NY. The state screwed this city by doing that. In came the inner city friends and relatives to live closeby to their hoodlum kin in lock-up.
Close down the prisons here. That will get the incarcerated and their families out of the area.
You people asked for it! Lol

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