underdround tunnels in utica?
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Curious

Whitesboro, NY

#137 May 1, 2013
Porno wrote:
<quoted text> My first experience with this tunnel system is around 50yrs ago. Believe me, it's changed from my first visit but you can enjoy yourself with the present system. You can still enter near Burstone Rd, along side Rt.12 and when it isn't raining, the water isn't a problem, usually around 1-2" except for one spot which is a drop-off to around 6" for a few feet. Be prepared to walk bent-over if you're tall, the ceiling drops in places and if you are in the metal pipe sections, the bolt nuts could play havoc with your head. I just walk in the center of the pipe and wear a thick hat. I would estimate that it would take you approx. an hour to get to the Brewery Parking lot and the large chamber there. When I'm in the concrete section that bends to the left at a nice angle I know I'm under Rt. 12 and Carl's Furniture. You also can see through the boards covering the RR tracks near by. In the small chamber, you can see that the original tunnel system (straight ahead)is blocked-off that circled the Polish Community Club and headed to the Mohawk. The small chamber has a spillway going left into the large chamber, not a problem unless it's raining like hell and you suddenly have a waterfalls. From this chamber, it's a large, new pipe to the exit and really easy. You exit at the end of Haak Ave and if you look over your shoulder, you'll see the original 1910 exit. In my opinion, if there was ever a situation where you had to get away from oppressive heat due to "whatever" reason, the tunnel system would be a comfortable location. I've climbed-up on the ledge in the small chamber and gone to sleep with it being cool and the sound of running water. The items I'd recommend bringing are boots if water bothers you (I've gone through with leather work boots), something to protect your head from overhead concrete and metal plus a supply of GOOD flashlights. I use LED's with lithium bqtteries for brightness and hours of usage. If two go together, one can illuminate ahead as the other bounces off the ceiling above you so you don't bumb your head. Don't need two people but it's easier and helps pass the time. Bring a camera, lots of interesting stuff to record. Wish I had photos back from the 60's to compare. By the way, you can also reverse the route, I've done this. Have fun!
Where exactly is the entrance? Is it directly underneath the burrstone road bridge?

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Since: Apr 13

Schenectady, NY

#138 May 1, 2013
I hear it was part of the Underground Railroad during the civil war.
Kitty Bee

Rome, NY

#139 May 1, 2013
I know there used to be (probably still is; if it hasn't collapsed)a tunnel that ran from the basement of Old Main at the Utica Psych. Center to the Erie Canal. That is where Oriskany Blvd. is now. In the 18400's and 1850' s - the Psych Center was called the Utica Lunatic Asylum in those days - it was used to transport goods to the hospital. This is amazing; all the different tunnels in the area- lived here over 50 yrs ad never knew! I know some old timers who used to work at the Psych Center who saw the boarded up entrance to the tunnel; and even took an unauthorized "tour".
Porno

Syracuse, NY

#140 May 1, 2013
Curious wrote:
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Where exactly is the entrance? Is it directly underneath the burrstone road bridge?
If you are heading North, leaving New Hartford, take the 2nd exit ramp to Burrstone Rd. Look to your right and you will see a line of trees and the creek is there. Park in the Hospital parking lot or "where-ever" and walk down to the left of the ramp into the tree line. It's a concrete entrance and you can't miss it. No problem entering, it's large. If you are tall, be prepared to walk stooped-over in places. Enjoy!
Friend_of_Curiou s

Utica, NY

#141 May 7, 2013
Porno wrote:
<quoted text> If you are heading North, leaving New Hartford, take the 2nd exit ramp to Burrstone Rd. Look to your right and you will see a line of trees and the creek is there. Park in the Hospital parking lot or "where-ever" and walk down to the left of the ramp into the tree line. It's a concrete entrance and you can't miss it. No problem entering, it's large. If you are tall, be prepared to walk stooped-over in places. Enjoy!
We actually went up there the day he asked about that and found it ourselves right where you said it would be. We went in really far, but got stuck at a point where the water takes a sudden slant and rushes into a tunnel to the left. It was steep and slippery, and we didn't know what was down there. It would have been a one-way trip. There was a ledge to hop on and keep moving straight, but the water on the other side was stagnant. There was graffiti from the 1930's there. We tried walking through the gunk but the ceiling was getting low at the same rate the crap was getting thicker and deeper, we weren't equipped for moving through that so we had to turn around.
We're thinking about going back more prepared and recording the excursion.
Porno

Syracuse, NY

#142 May 7, 2013
Friend_of_Curious wrote:
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We actually went up there the day he asked about that and found it ourselves right where you said it would be. We went in really far, but got stuck at a point where the water takes a sudden slant and rushes into a tunnel to the left. It was steep and slippery, and we didn't know what was down there. It would have been a one-way trip. There was a ledge to hop on and keep moving straight, but the water on the other side was stagnant. There was graffiti from the 1930's there. We tried walking through the gunk but the ceiling was getting low at the same rate the crap was getting thicker and deeper, we weren't equipped for moving through that so we had to turn around.
We're thinking about going back more prepared and recording the excursion.
OK, you were close to exiting. The last time I was in the same area you were in, the straight-ahead tunnel was totally dry, but the time before that it was like you described. Forget about going that way. I've gone up and down that "water-slide" but on hands and knees, I believe there was little water flow. At the bottom of that "slide" is a much larger chamber and as you enter it, there is a large pipe and you follow it out to the exit, this is extremely easy. I can't remember if you can reach the overhead manhole cover before the slide but you could tie-off a small rope or nylon ski rope to it and use it to ease yourself down and pull yourself back up. Just remembered, you can tie-off with the bolts that are there or the planks. I've done it both ways without rope but I knew what the lower chamber looked like. Now, in the lower chamber which is really large, you will notice on the left (as you enter it) there appears to be an exit for additional water to enter near the bottom. I think there is another pipe system entering there but I didn't attempt to crawl in there. With the size of the exit pipe, there isn't a way to get into trouble there. It's really easy from here on. When you exit, you'll see the railroad bridge in front of you and the original exit over your right shoulder back a ways. There is a Dunkin Donut at the corner of Oriskany and Schuyler where you can have someone pick you up, just a short distance from the exit. Enjoy, but I haven't gone in during a rain storm and a rising water level.
Gina

Utica, NY

#143 May 7, 2013
True wrote:
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If you follow the creek that runs parellel with Calvary cemetary across Oneida St...the creek forks and there is a tunnel down there. Used to play in the area as a kid and all you could hear were the sounds of the sewer rats running around.
i grew up there too and played in those tunnels....
sue

New Hartford, NY

#144 Aug 3, 2014
hole wrote:
There's one from hotel utica to raddison to city hall.
Bull! I worked in City hall and explored every inch- no tunnels.
sue

New Hartford, NY

#145 Aug 7, 2014
utica club wrote:
<quoted text> yes connexting to the old faxton hospital across the street.
St Lukes NOT Faxton
joan

Utica, NY

#146 Aug 7, 2014
JDM wrote:
does anyone kno if this srumor is true or not
riggie lives in one of them
Porno

Utica, NY

#148 Aug 16, 2014
If your going down the arterial in the near future, check-out the former Carl's Furniture. Right next to the building you can now see a portion of the creek flowing under it due to the new road construction. Was inspecting it today and looking to see how they are going to lay new concrete over the original roof supports. The tracks have been ripped-out so I guess they won't need the upper steel and concrete supports. The sides are opened a bit and you can see the water flowing thru. A great amount of work on drains has been accomplished in that area but I don't believe any of them have been directly connected to the original tunnel system. Will probably have to go exploring again just to satisfy my curiosity. When that will be, haven't the slightest. But from what I saw today, the water flow wasn't that great. Anyhow, before it's all covered and buried under the road forever, check it out for the fun of it.
NosyKnows

Fulton, NY

#149 Aug 26, 2014
I KNOW there are tunnels underneath Utica. As a child, my grandfather brought me in an access tunnel that was located under the old State Street Mills that is now Brodock Press. Not an urban legend. TRUE. Back in those days (early 70s) there were old hospital beds & equipment being stored, fallout shelter supplies ie blankets, buckets of food etc and tons of other stuff. We drove quite a length of it in an old golf cart.
biggusdikus

New Hartford, NY

#150 Aug 26, 2014
If you look at old maps of Utica, you will see Ballou creek. From NH it ran along west of Mohawk St. Through where the cemetery is , down through the back of the shopping plaza, next to Stienhorst Apts, -down through where Quinns park is, on Rutger St in the winter it would form a pond and they ice skated there. Down through the old Smith laundry-through the area to the Mohawk river, where on Google earth, you can still see it. American Hardwall Company did the tunnel in the late 20's. It still starts in NH. I understand the tunnel starts there.
Gunda

Utica, NY

#151 Aug 27, 2014
There's a tunnel that goes from Oneida Square to Busy Corner. Genesee Street sits on top of it. Verizon and NiMo guys know all about it.

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