Reader's Digest dubbed Utica the "Sec...

Reader's Digest dubbed Utica the "Second Chance City"

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Cicero

Canastota, NY

#1 Feb 8, 2010
i hope the mayor/congressmen will jump on this to get more money for utica because no other city will give anyone a second chance
Cicero

Canastota, NY

#2 Feb 8, 2010
Utica became known as "The City that God Forgot."

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#3 Feb 8, 2010
As much as I have appeared to complain, I can't just skip out of Utica knowing that we are living in a very good - overall- quality of life.

I often think about living in Brooklyn and Queens for a short term, three years, as a low income manual laborer, trying to compare and adjust to the experience.

I am sure that for general quality of living, in spite of the disparaging or negative comments that are restlessly interjected from area residents and local competing regions, that Utica New York is block for block a safer and mostly well handled chance to be alright, how's that for lack of a better sound-bite type of phrase? To be better in Utica than most everywhere else if you are given the chance to take care of your kids.
This is not a nightlife entertainment capital city, and a plethora of commerce and opportunities.
Maybe it is a good place to take better care of yourself though, and take care of your kids.
I have to say in spite of it all, I think better of Utica today.
Matt

Frisco, TX

#4 Feb 8, 2010
A second chance for what , being homeless again ?
terry

Fayetteville, NY

#5 Feb 8, 2010
Austin Centolella wrote:
As much as I have appeared to complain, I can't just skip out of Utica knowing that we are living in a very good - overall- quality of life.
I often think about living in Brooklyn and Queens for a short term, three years, as a low income manual laborer, trying to compare and adjust to the experience.
I am sure that for general quality of living, in spite of the disparaging or negative comments that are restlessly interjected from area residents and local competing regions, that Utica New York is block for block a safer and mostly well handled chance to be alright, how's that for lack of a better sound-bite type of phrase? To be better in Utica than most everywhere else if you are given the chance to take care of your kids.
This is not a nightlife entertainment capital city, and a plethora of commerce and opportunities.
Maybe it is a good place to take better care of yourself though, and take care of your kids.
I have to say in spite of it all, I think better of Utica today.
you think better of utica today? you must be one of those fools who cant see how crappy this city is because you never get out of it, lets put you down in cornhill for 3 weeks and see what your outlook is then or if you survive, the city to better yourself, man you really are living in a dream

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#6 Feb 8, 2010
terry wrote:
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you think better of utica today? you must be one of those fools who cant see how crappy this city is because you never get out of it, lets put you down in cornhill for 3 weeks and see what your outlook is then or if you survive, the city to better yourself, man you really are living in a dream
IT'S Too Easy To sit back and listen to the talk that don't walk.
Simple as it seems, I know it is bad.
I also know it is not nearly as treacherous as it feels like from the living room view.
I realize what you are saying believe me, please don't insult me because I am keeping my humanity no matter what negativity flies from disparaging comments.
It's all talk.
Reader's Digest called Utica New York the best city for a second chance.
That is the topic.
Good luck in New Hartford.

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#7 Feb 8, 2010
Cornhill is not like Jamaica Queens or the Bronx.
I hope everybody in Utica shows support for themselves instead of fighting and hating ourselves for one more minute.
Nothing like it

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Feb 8, 2010
Austin Centolella wrote:
Cornhill is not like Jamaica Queens or the Bronx.
I hope everybody in Utica shows support for themselves instead of fighting and hating ourselves for one more minute.
Utica is nothing like Brooklyn, Queens, or the Bronx. Having lived here for almost 10 years now, I will say that I feel FAR safer walking in any neighborhood at night here, than walking down James St. in the middle of the afternoon.

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#9 Feb 9, 2010
Nothing like it wrote:
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Utica is nothing like Brooklyn, Queens, or the Bronx. Having lived here for almost 10 years now, I will say that I feel FAR safer walking in any neighborhood at night here, than walking down James St. in the middle of the afternoon.
There seems to be turf and gangs that are allowed to roam rampant.
This is a newer trend of the same old situation that has been going on since the early 70's in utica, particularly in Cornhill.
It is not readily identifiable or understood who is actually managing this sub cultural anti social business community.
I knew of some things until say the 1990's when Istopped feeling like I could even walk down the street. I got punched in the lip by a couple of sport jackedt black teens for no reason or provacation walking on James Street to my grandmothers house.
I realized this after Watson Williams just got built, that there was a turf war going down and I straightened out and stayed away as much as I could to not be a friend or foe to anybody resembling it.
Utica has much to offer and crime seems to have matured as well, standing toe to toe with almost every mayor and progressive model this city has been positively affected by.
They mimic the right thing to hide along side with it it seems.
They don't go away because we want them to.
It's no good trying to conform the element because they are supported by upstanding cover.
We need better education and to legalize what they are trying to kill and rob and prostitute themselves for. We need education and treatment. The prisons and arresting people though is what is aking money around here. This is the residual for correctional approach to lower income community modeling instead of betterment and rehabilitaion. Then again, most of the people in the ranks that participate in criminal lifestyles don't think they are even doing anything wrong in the first place while they are involved in it.
It is not just Cornhill in Utica. I hold every day dearly to be sure that I am alright with my son living in this city, close proximity as it is to a few who are so desperate and antisocial.
Readers Digest

New York, NY

#11 Feb 9, 2010
When did Reader's Digest dub Utica the second chance city? Where is the citation? I'm sure we would all be interested in reading the article, if of course it even exists.

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#12 Feb 9, 2010
Nothing like it wrote:
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Utica is nothing like Brooklyn, Queens, or the Bronx. Having lived here for almost 10 years now, I will say that I feel FAR safer walking in any neighborhood at night here, than walking down James St. in the middle of the afternoon.
Nothing Like It, I loved living in New York and wasn't half afraid of people as I seem to have learned to be in Utica. I took the trains and worked all shifts overnight.
I realize what you are saying after I wrote the first response. Hey I was in NYC years ago and didn't want to struggle with getting divorced and barely making enough money with my job at the time. I wasn't trying to belittle or put down Brooklyn or Queens, just was inteding to say that ther are less criminal activities recorded in Utica, numbers, stats. Please don't be offended for posting anything mentioning Brooklyn or Queens. I believe more people are doing better and are more genuine than the years before 9-11.

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#13 Feb 9, 2010
Readers Digest wrote:
When did Reader's Digest dub Utica the second chance city? Where is the citation? I'm sure we would all be interested in reading the article, if of course it even exists.
good question.
Queens guest

Albany, NY

#14 Feb 9, 2010
Austin Centolella wrote:
As much as I have appeared to complain, I can't just skip out of Utica knowing that we are living in a very good - overall- quality of life.
I often think about living in Brooklyn and Queens for a short term, three years, as a low income manual laborer, trying to compare and adjust to the experience.
I am sure that for general quality of living, in spite of the disparaging or negative comments that are restlessly interjected from area residents and local competing regions, that Utica New York is block for block a safer and mostly well handled chance to be alright, how's that for lack of a better sound-bite type of phrase? To be better in Utica than most everywhere else if you are given the chance to take care of your kids.
This is not a nightlife entertainment capital city, and a plethora of commerce and opportunities.
Maybe it is a good place to take better care of yourself though, and take care of your kids.
I have to say in spite of it all, I think better of Utica today.
Austin, I visit family often in Queens. Their neighborhood is decent and relatively safe, but...they warn me "don't take a walk down on Roosevelt Boulevard after 9 pm." The problem is there's nothing to do in Queens, outside of maybe going to one of the many ethnic restaurants there (the ones I've been in were all pretty good). You have to take a long bus or subway ride to go to mid-town or anywhere where things are going on. In Utica, I can practically walk to a Stanley concert; there's a small but decent music scene; nice coffee houses like Tramontane and Domenico; some nice pubs and bars on Bleecker (and Green Onion now in S Utica); and good restaurants. And, it takes half a lifetime to save up to get a condo in Queens. So, I agree with your assessment.

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#15 Feb 9, 2010
Queens guest wrote:
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Austin, I visit family often in Queens. Their neighborhood is decent and relatively safe, but...they warn me "don't take a walk down on Roosevelt Boulevard after 9 pm." The problem is there's nothing to do in Queens, outside of maybe going to one of the many ethnic restaurants there (the ones I've been in were all pretty good). You have to take a long bus or subway ride to go to mid-town or anywhere where things are going on. In Utica, I can practically walk to a Stanley concert; there's a small but decent music scene; nice coffee houses like Tramontane and Domenico; some nice pubs and bars on Bleecker (and Green Onion now in S Utica); and good restaurants. And, it takes half a lifetime to save up to get a condo in Queens. So, I agree with your assessment.
Hey, thanks.
I used to go out to eat with my exwife back then in Ozone Park, Queens. She introduced me to the area out there. I loved the Chinese restaurants and noticed the ethnic communities with the Guyanese flags on everything around there.
I really get romantic and inspired thinking about the trains and my exwife being around in NYC. Nice thinking. Utica is where I have been raising my son as a single parent though. It is where I was born and he is 11yrs old. It is limited here to be sure, but so far I have been fortunate with him. I am not too clear about politics and am not in favor of my own life's position here, but for just surviving well and be able to acre for yourself and kids, I can't get out of Utica fast. I know I am looking to leave to continue school. I don't know where to pick.
Anyways, thanks for saying something nice to me for posting here.
Appreciate hearing from you.
Wake Up

Cincinnati, OH

#16 Feb 9, 2010
It's not Utica that's bad it's the self-serving criminal element that inhabits city hall and the government of Oneida county.
Austin Centolella wrote:
As much as I have appeared to complain, I can't just skip out of Utica knowing that we are living in a very good - overall- quality of life.
I often think about living in Brooklyn and Queens for a short term, three years, as a low income manual laborer, trying to compare and adjust to the experience.
I am sure that for general quality of living, in spite of the disparaging or negative comments that are restlessly interjected from area residents and local competing regions, that Utica New York is block for block a safer and mostly well handled chance to be alright, how's that for lack of a better sound-bite type of phrase? To be better in Utica than most everywhere else if you are given the chance to take care of your kids.
This is not a nightlife entertainment capital city, and a plethora of commerce and opportunities.
Maybe it is a good place to take better care of yourself though, and take care of your kids.
I have to say in spite of it all, I think better of Utica today.
HOGWASH

New York, NY

#17 Feb 9, 2010
Second chance city? More like FAT CHANCE CITY!!!
Wake Up

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Feb 9, 2010
Readers Digest

Saranac Lake, NY

#19 Feb 9, 2010
Wake Up wrote:
Thanks. So what we are talking about is a City that is a second chance for escaped Somali Bantu warriors. In other words, Utica is a step up if you are someone used to living in HELL itself. Wonderful.
Wake Up

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Feb 9, 2010
You're right. It's a matter of perspective my friend.
Readers Digest wrote:
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Thanks. So what we are talking about is a City that is a second chance for escaped Somali Bantu warriors. In other words, Utica is a step up if you are someone used to living in HELL itself. Wonderful.

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#21 Feb 9, 2010
Wake Up wrote:
It's not Utica that's bad it's the self-serving criminal element that inhabits city hall and the government of Oneida county.
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IS THE MAFIA STILL IN UTICA POST #117

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/utica-ny/TQJN...

Hey to be honest as I can, I am awake and know only this. I am not in charge or anything, or anyone and rely upon the good sense of those around me to assist my son and I living in Utica New York, the city I was born in.

I am an "old school" guy who is living alone and without much support, unemployed, disabled and am in no position to challenge any authority. I rely on Consitutional law inspite of the seemingly abandoned quality I live within being a single parent.
I have made my fair share of mistakes and distanced myself from most of my past. I never saw the "hell" much in this world. I was overseas for years in Germany in the Army. I lived in NYC a few years, married. I love how easy it is to put so much heat and really dirty comments into the public forums here.
I have been called a "crack head" recently from a post named, "DEAR AUSTIN" for trying to be sensible and fairly understand somebody who just went to jail. I guess in reality, I am surely not "authorized" to comment as I have and will still, being a person keeping peace with the WARRIORS ONLINE.
I am aware of everybody blaming somebody else for their misfortunes and do believe I am not in a position to actually know how to accuse anybody of personal wrongdoing.
You know, slander and culumny were words that are used in character defamation.
In the reality of it all, maybe you need to get a lawyer to expose the attrocities.
That would make good copy.
All this rabble rousing does is cloud up the white background that goes unchanged on this webpage.

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