NY times Article on Adoptees rights!

NY times Article on Adoptees rights!

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Level 8

Since: Apr 12

Willcox, AZ

#1 Jun 16, 2014
goodluck

New Hartford, NY

#3 Jun 16, 2014
Eventually any mom who wants her privacy protected will have to drop her kid off at the nearest hospital, fire station, etc. and just leave it there. Today's adoptees are screwing over future adoptees by pushing for info for themselves without any concern for the mother who wants to be left alone. jackasses.
kenya

New Hartford, NY

#4 Jun 16, 2014
hmmmm wrote:
UPD: 12 arrested for regularly having sex, masturbating and exposing themselves at Roscoe Conkling Park
Story Created: Jun 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM EDT
Story Updated: Dec 23, 2012 at 7:23 PM EDT
UTICA, N.Y.(WKTV)- 12 men have been arrested after an undercover sex crime sting at Roscoe Conkling Park, attached to the City of Utica's Valley View Golf Course, according to Utica Police.
Police say they received numerous complaints regarding men engaging in sexual acts near the wooded area at the park. It was reported that the men would meet each other for the purposes of engaging in sexual acts on themselves and each other.
The complainants also said the men would accost people passing by, often times propositioning them while exposing themselves.
The men range in age from 47 to 79.
Officers were directed to an area in the park believed used by the men. When officers checked this area, they located several discarded items used during the acts as well as blankets, clothing and undergarments.
Police say during their several week investigation, an undercover officer was approached numerous times by men who would then expose themselves and masturbate. On several occasions the suspect grabbed the officer in a sexual manner while propositioning him, authorities said.
Investigators say the crimes occurred on the roadway, trails and woods in the park which is traveled often by vehicles, runners and bikers.
Following are the names of those arrested:
- Brian G. Slocum, age 54 of Deansboro
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Marc N. Stagliano, age 58 of Herkimer
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- William H. Williams, age 53 of Yorkville
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- George C. Brockett, age 79 of Herkimer
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Joseph S. Aiello, age 66 of Utica
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Robert E. Havranek, age 77 of New Hartford
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Richard J. Emmert, age 69 of New Hartford
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Timothy M. Wissenbachm, age 55 of Utica
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Patrick H. Murray, age 47 of Rome
(Charged with exposure of a person and public lewdness)
- Francis J. Grippe, age 54 of Frankfort
(Charged with harassment and forcible touching)
- Michael F. Leary, age 67 of Sauquoit
(Charged with harassment and forcible touching)
- Craig A. Hood, age 60 of Utica
(Charged with exposure of a person)
Your Daddy could be one of the above. Some things are better left alone.
woff

New Hartford, NY

#5 Jun 16, 2014
Just another group of self-serving, self-centered alarmists who want access to information they have no legal right to and never will. Never is there any concern for the wishes and privacy for the mom who gave them up and provided them with a good home. They like to play the 'medical history' card to give 'credibility' to their invasive crusades but if you ask any doctor, they don't have a medical foot to stand on. Regular medical check-ups and screening is more important than that wart your biological mother had when she was four. These people give adoption a dirty name and apparently enjoy crapping all over their adoptive parents as soon as they can. They get what they have coming, when after forcing the issue long enough they find the mom who gave them up and she tells them to get lost. As it should be.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#6 Jun 16, 2014
Just another reason to support abortion.

Level 8

Since: Apr 12

Willcox, AZ

#7 Jun 16, 2014
People who are adopted need updated medical. They have a right to know who their biological relatives are.
IF a child never gets adopted , they have their original birth cert. with all the information.

Kansas is an open records state. Guess what? They perform more adoptions.

parents are searching and wanting to know how their children are.

For now whoever wants to be reunited, you can sign up with the NY state MUTUAL consent registry. That means both parties can sign up. If both sign up, they will let you know that the other party is signed up too.

Forgot to mention DNA is also being done, and people are finding biological relatives that way. So keeping the records sealed is a waste of time and money.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#8 Jun 16, 2014
joanNYadoptees wrote:
People who are adopted need updated medical. They have a right to know who their biological relatives are.
IF a child never gets adopted , they have their original birth cert. with all the information.
Kansas is an open records state. Guess what? They perform more adoptions.
parents are searching and wanting to know how their children are.
For now whoever wants to be reunited, you can sign up with the NY state MUTUAL consent registry. That means both parties can sign up. If both sign up, they will let you know that the other party is signed up too.
Forgot to mention DNA is also being done, and people are finding biological relatives that way. So keeping the records sealed is a waste of time and money.
They have as much right to know relatives medical histories as a parent who gives a child up for adoption has to find that child later in life. If they both seek it out but fine...other than that neither has a right to interrupt either parties life.
adoptee

Utica, NY

#9 Jun 16, 2014
goodluck wrote:
Eventually any mom who wants her privacy protected will have to drop her kid off at the nearest hospital, fire station, etc. and just leave it there. Today's adoptees are screwing over future adoptees by pushing for info for themselves without any concern for the mother who wants to be left alone. jackasses.
For your information, closed adoptions were set up to protect the adoptive parents, not the birth parents. Do you know your family medical history, or who both of your birth parents are? If you or one of your children became seriously ill and medical history was important, wouldn't you want to know it if you were adopted? Are adoptees any less of a person than non adoptees? Shouldn't we have the same rights as non adoptees? Everyone wants to be treated equal, but adoptees shouldn't be??
yucku

New Hartford, NY

#10 Jun 16, 2014
adoptee wrote:
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For your information, closed adoptions were set up to protect the adoptive parents, not the birth parents. Do you know your family medical history, or who both of your birth parents are? If you or one of your children became seriously ill and medical history was important, wouldn't you want to know it if you were adopted? Are adoptees any less of a person than non adoptees? Shouldn't we have the same rights as non adoptees? Everyone wants to be treated equal, but adoptees shouldn't be??
Your are a walking, talking cliché just like Woff said. A real one note wonder.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#11 Jun 16, 2014
adoptee wrote:
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For your information, closed adoptions were set up to protect the adoptive parents, not the birth parents. Do you know your family medical history, or who both of your birth parents are? If you or one of your children became seriously ill and medical history was important, wouldn't you want to know it if you were adopted? Are adoptees any less of a person than non adoptees? Shouldn't we have the same rights as non adoptees? Everyone wants to be treated equal, but adoptees shouldn't be??
Again. What about the rights of the parents who gave the child up for adoption?

Level 8

Since: Apr 12

Willcox, AZ

#12 Jun 16, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
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Again. What about the rights of the parents who gave the child up for adoption?
Yes, They aren't allowed to know who the child went to. They don't have any idea what happened to their child.
Thousands of birth parents are searching.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#13 Jun 16, 2014
joanNYadoptees wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, They aren't allowed to know who the child went to. They don't have any idea what happened to their child.
Thousands of birth parents are searching.
They no longer deserve the right to know. When you put a child up for adoption...sign the papers...and walk away that's it. There's no do overs.
jdjones66

Sydney, Australia

#14 Jun 24, 2014
So Utica, on the one hand, you seem concerned about the "rights" of women who relinquishchildren, yet on the other hand, you think those very same women don't deserve to know their children - you seem to be wanting to protect the rights of women you obviously despise.
Do you actually want to protect their rights or is it more that you want to protect the image of the "stereotypical abandoning birth parents"?
I live in a place where records have been open for decades. The sky hasn't fallen.

Level 8

Since: Apr 12

Willcox, AZ

#15 Jul 14, 2014
What Utica doesn't know is that many states have open records. Kansas is always open. So is Alaska.

Tenn. and NH, and Vt. and more.

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