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dirtbag

New York, NY

#71 Nov 28, 2011
Maciol is such a great member of law enforcement that he tried to cover up the Brad Frankland brutality mess in NY Mills. Yeah, just the kind of guy you want leading a police agency. Not.

Patterson was not from Cornhill, as if that even mattered. Wyman was not trained in standoffs like this and had no business being allowed to remain at the scene once the trained ERT showed up. The entire mess shows amateur night was going on. No leadership and no smart decisions were made. Patterson was pinned in his garage for over 6 hours, completely surrounded. Why force the issue by shooting at him? Wait him out. There were no hostages, only a threat contained in a garage. Instead, Maciol and company start a gun battle when one was not necessary.

And where was an untrained Wyman? Standing near the front of the garage, in the open, holding a spotlight on Patterson. It is no wonder why he was the first to be shot after the non-lethal rounds hit Patterson, because he was not behind cover and he was shining the light on Patterson. The only one who made any smart tactical moves that night was Patterson by taking out the light source.

Maciol got Wyman killed, period. If you waited out a suicidal man, the worst outcome is him committing suicide. Never provoke an unstable person because this is what can happen. Maciol is a gung ho POS that was in such a hurry to end it. He let his ego get in the way of having a REAL trained team handle it, the NYSP. Yes, that is right, when the NYSP offered to assist, he turned them down. Guess what, Maciol? YOU killed Kurt Wyman by your flawed actions and chest-beating ego.
Duh

Montgomery, AL

#72 Nov 28, 2011
Everybody voted for Townsend to get back at the indian nation. That bumped the only qualified cantidate out of contention -Masucci. Then we were left with Townsend vs. Maciol.

Townsend didnt even know the law about pistol permits and had to be corrected by NYSP, Remember that? That didnt ring any bells for people back then?

Townsend had no current law enforcement experience, Maciol is obviously in over his head, and that Gambino chic turned out to be a fraud.

So in hindsight... obviously everyone was mislead or made a mistake at the booth and this is what we get.

How long until the next EPIC FAIL???
Hello

Albany, NY

#73 Nov 28, 2011
dirtbag wrote:
Maciol is such a great member of law enforcement that he tried to cover up the Brad Frankland brutality mess in NY Mills. Yeah, just the kind of guy you want leading a police agency. Not.
Patterson was not from Cornhill, as if that even mattered. Wyman was not trained in standoffs like this and had no business being allowed to remain at the scene once the trained ERT showed up. The entire mess shows amateur night was going on. No leadership and no smart decisions were made. Patterson was pinned in his garage for over 6 hours, completely surrounded. Why force the issue by shooting at him? Wait him out. There were no hostages, only a threat contained in a garage. Instead, Maciol and company start a gun battle when one was not necessary.
And where was an untrained Wyman? Standing near the front of the garage, in the open, holding a spotlight on Patterson. It is no wonder why he was the first to be shot after the non-lethal rounds hit Patterson, because he was not behind cover and he was shining the light on Patterson. The only one who made any smart tactical moves that night was Patterson by taking out the light source.
Maciol got Wyman killed, period. If you waited out a suicidal man, the worst outcome is him committing suicide. Never provoke an unstable person because this is what can happen. Maciol is a gung ho POS that was in such a hurry to end it. He let his ego get in the way of having a REAL trained team handle it, the NYSP. Yes, that is right, when the NYSP offered to assist, he turned them down. Guess what, Maciol? YOU killed Kurt Wyman by your flawed actions and chest-beating ego.
Pinned? This man WAS NOT stable. The POS is Patterson.They should of let him turn the gun on himself.
dirtbag

New York, NY

#74 Nov 28, 2011
Hello wrote:
<quoted text> Pinned? This man WAS NOT stable. The POS is Patterson.They should of let him turn the gun on himself.
Yes, pinned down in his garage. And yes they should have let him turn the gun on himself instead of spraying him with fake bullets and causing the reaction that ensued. He was not stable and I said as much. Maciol and company screwed the pooch on this one and owe Kurt Wyman's family an apology as well as owe the public a full explanation of what happened.

Patterson may have pulled the trigger but that wouldn't have happened had the sheriffs not shot him first. He defended himself from what was obviously an unprovoked attack. For 6+ hours they tried to talk him out of harming himself and they turn around and harm him by shooting him? Anybody else see why that was wrong?
Really

Albany, NY

#75 Nov 28, 2011
Oh another one who must of been a fly on the wall.
Kiss this

New York, NY

#77 Nov 28, 2011
Really wrote:
Oh another one who must of been a fly on the wall.
you're a clueless mutt. Most of the relevant details were already in the newspaper. You're a fly on the bottom of my shoe, turd

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