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Tears for a child

Clark Mills, NY

#1 Jul 30, 2013
Engelhart is a disgrace! He is and has been a terrible role model and mentor to the young men he has coached. He has no morals or values and everyone knows it. He takes advantage of every person he can because he CAN. Itís sad because POWER leads to the manipulative game playing with people. He gets to pit players against each other and the parents too. He doesn't give a shxt about your kids and teaching them anything at this level of baseball. Seriously for him he has no other sense of power or glory but through YOU or your children that make him feel like a goddamn GOD!! Now that's a total disgrace that you and your kids are used as pawns to feed that asshats HUGE EGO. If he was a coach that cared about all of those kids he would have control of his players on the field!! They would have direction and know that the coach would not tolerate any disrespect and most importantly protect your kids from any situation that would lead to criminal charges. He FAILED!! I know kids don't like to lose, but good sportsmanship must be demonstrated from the coaches!! We must demand they be role models and mentors. Isn't that what a good coach does? Engelhart is NONE of the above he uses the role for self-serving reasons!! Itís time for Whitesboro to get rid of this Cancer.

The parents need to slow it down and remember itís about your kids. Calm down and please don't do something you may regret in the heat of the moment!! Terrible things can happen in just 1 second someone could DIE!! Parents you are caught in his drama but step away and THINK. I know you feel you are protecting your kid. All parents naturally want to protect their kids. Would losing your FAMILY and and everything you have for Coach Engelhart's Glory be worth it then?? Now think about it, yes it gets intense but walk away nothing is worth that!! Because when your life goes down the tubes Coach Engelhart will keep coaching and being a drunk. He will move on and you and you kid will have meant nothing to him.
But as parents we have the first priority to teach our kids and that is to Respect and remember there is always a loser. As a parent we hate to see our kids disappointed but this is life and it will pass and there are bad calls we move on. I would let my kid vent about it at home and we moved on. Life is not fair. We as parents know that game the best.

I believe all the parentsí love the kids and this situation got intense and could have been resolved if BOTH coach didn't push the rivalry. It doesn't help that the ONLY LOCAL rivals are Whitesboro and New Hartford. Itís not like it was back in the past with multiple local rivals. This has added to this intensity for BOTH schools. It should be FUN not out for Blood. With all of the horrific incidents that have happened in the world we need to be careful of how we pressure cook these kids because when something happens we all say I don't know how this could possibly have happened? Yeah right? Kids are impulsive and thatís why the adults around them have to be careful not to light the match. Let
Give these kids a break and let them play ball and the adults stay out of it and get rid of Engelhart NOW!!! Get rid of this jerk because the kids at this level need to be coached by someone that can further the love of the game and the rivalry along with good sportsmanship!! Let's not brand all these kids as bad, however, come up with solutions for improvement in the future!The kids are just pawns in Engelhartís quest to brag about how many times he went to the States.
Not an excuse for bad behavior but a chance to examine an opportunity to get rid of him.
Both teams lit by that spark and boy did it get out of control.
The kids shouldn't suffer. Its a big mess.
Both teams have good Kids and good families and I hope the community comes together and heals this mess. We don't want to further divide these kids!! Please.
What

Ithaca, NY

#2 Jul 30, 2013
Great post
agree

Whitesboro, NY

#3 Jul 30, 2013
I will copy this and post throughout the town!!!
WP 1113 MOM

New York, NY

#5 Jul 30, 2013
Whoever wrote this post is either jealous of the Coach's success or wants his job....biggest bunch of crap I have ever read! Just ask any players who have played for him and they will tell you he is the BEST COACH they have ever played for! You are one sick, hateful, human being who clearly has no life!! Go crawl back in your hole!!!
agree

Whitesboro, NY

#6 Jul 30, 2013
WP 1113 MOM wrote:
Whoever wrote this post is either jealous of the Coach's success or wants his job....biggest bunch of crap I have ever read! Just ask any players who have played for him and they will tell you he is the BEST COACH they have ever played for! You are one sick, hateful, human being who clearly has no life!! Go crawl back in your hole!!!
its all a clicque
Whitestown Post

Gouverneur, NY

#7 Jul 30, 2013
Paul is an excellent coach! We are extremely proud that our son is a member of this team. Paul is dedicated, diligent, respectful, responsible, fair, caring, etc. I could go on and on. He has high morals and values, he is the best coach our son has ever had!
Agree

Gouverneur, NY

#8 Jul 30, 2013
Beautifully written comment above.....it's not Pauls fault that the batter purposely bumped the catcher!
correct

Utica, NY

#9 Jul 30, 2013
Hes a goof
agree x2

Whitesboro, NY

#10 Jul 30, 2013
beautifully written comment above... Its not Paul's fault the parents were arguing with the left fielder. Or that the batter purposely bunted foul, then walked straight up to the catcher to pick up his bat and start a riot.
Agree x3

Gouverneur, NY

#11 Jul 30, 2013
We taught our son when he was a little boy that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me" We also taught our son to KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF. All the batter needed to do was keep his hands to himself, but he didn't.
agree x2 wrote:
beautifully written comment above... Its not Paul's fault the parents were arguing with the left fielder. Or that the batter purposely bunted foul, then walked straight up to the catcher to pick up his bat and start a riot.
Carrot Top with some gray

New York, NY

#12 Jul 30, 2013
Agree x3 wrote:
We taught our son when he was a little boy that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me" We also taught our son to KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF. All the batter needed to do was keep his hands to himself, but he didn't.
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Where is the video? According to the Utica OD:
"Home plate umpire Sal Barbero ejected Collin Stewart, and the tone of game ďwent from zero to 100,Ē

Read more: http://www.uticaod.com/news/x997490114/Alterc...
MOM agrees

Clark Mills, NY

#13 Jul 30, 2013
WP 1113 MOM wrote:
Whoever wrote this post is either jealous of the Coach's success or wants his job....biggest bunch of crap I have ever read! Just ask any players who have played for him and they will tell you he is the BEST COACH they have ever played for! You are one sick, hateful, human being who clearly has no life!! Go crawl back in your hole!!!
You should rethink what your saying because your stuck in the biggest brown hole there is just saying - Ass kissers tend to be in a stinky dirty hole. How the view from where your standing inside the coaches hole? Check the mirror once and awhile you just might find some brown evidence on your nose.
Brian

United States

#14 Jul 30, 2013
What wrote:
Great post
great post?/ get the violins out/both coaches are good guys,Whtsb coach should sue you!
Greg

North Billerica, MA

#15 Jul 31, 2013
People can get on here and make false accusations and disparage people all they want.. Every legion official at that game with no ties to NH or Whitestown has put the blame squarely on the Two Stewart kids and Whitesboro parents on left field line. They assaulted the Desins kid at home plate and parents were making disgusting remarks that everyone heard. These reports are not from NH people but officials at the game. Now the aftermath with the parent grabbing the kid to stop him from kicking with schin guards.and metal spikes which are weapons is being investigated by Utica PD
If it was your kid

North Billerica, MA

#17 Jul 31, 2013
when a parent sees 2 kids assaulting his kid with equipment and nobody stopping it. What parent doesn't run out there and grab the kid doing it.????? Do you ask how old you are first? Or do you hope the next kick with a metal spike and schin guards on doesn't split his head open. The whitestown parent with the bald head was grabbing everyone . How is he any different?
gib

Syracuse, NY

#18 Jul 31, 2013
have another drink baldy
You Dont Know

Warren, NJ

#19 Jul 31, 2013
Tears for a child wrote:
Engelhart is a disgrace! He is and has been a terrible role model and mentor to the young men he has coached. He has no morals or values and everyone knows it. He takes advantage of every person he can because he CAN. Itís sad because POWER leads to the manipulative game playing with people. He gets to pit players against each other and the parents too. He doesn't give a shxt about your kids and teaching them anything at this level of baseball. Seriously for him he has no other sense of power or glory but through YOU or your children that make him feel like a goddamn GOD!! Now that's a total disgrace that you and your kids are used as pawns to feed that asshats HUGE EGO. If he was a coach that cared about all of those kids he would have control of his players on the field!! They would have direction and know that the coach would not tolerate any disrespect and most importantly protect your kids from any situation that would lead to criminal charges. He FAILED!! I know kids don't like to lose, but good sportsmanship must be demonstrated from the coaches!! We must demand they be role models and mentors. Isn't that what a good coach does? Engelhart is NONE of the above he uses the role for self-serving reasons!! Itís time for Whitesboro to get rid of this Cancer.
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If any of that is true about Paul, I would be shocked. Many years ago I played with, against, and FOR him at one time or another. He was a completely stand-up guy and a good friend. Always fair and I NEVER saw him lose his temper or have an ego of any kind. 100% a great guy as far as I was ever concerned. Ane everyone I knew felt the same way. Like I said, this was years ago, but I can't imagine he would do a complete 180 over that time.
jeff

Frankfort, NY

#20 Jul 31, 2013
MOM agrees wrote:
<quoted text>
You should rethink what your saying because your stuck in the biggest brown hole there is just saying - Ass kissers tend to be in a stinky dirty hole. How the view from where your standing inside the coaches hole? Check the mirror once and awhile you just might find some brown evidence on your nose.
I take it Paul cut your child! No other reason to be so angry and bitter towards him! Yes we know, if it wasn't for Paul, your child could have been the next Derek Jeter!!! Oh, and BTW, my child PLAYED for him 5 years ago so there goes your ass kissing theory! I have NOTHING to gain for defending one of the nicest guy you will ever meet! TOOL.
Brock Lesner

Haslet, TX

#21 Jul 31, 2013
If it was your kid wrote:
when a parent sees 2 kids assaulting his kid with equipment and nobody stopping it. What parent doesn't run out there and grab the kid doing it.????? Do you ask how old you are first? Or do you hope the next kick with a metal spike and schin guards on doesn't split his head open. The whitestown parent with the bald head was grabbing everyone . How is he any different?
Why did he leave the field so quick then. Because he is a coward. If the UPD sees justification they will charge him.
Simple

New Britain, CT

#22 Jul 31, 2013
Brock Lesner wrote:
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Why did he leave the field so quick then. Because he is a coward. If the UPD sees justification they will charge him.
You have drunk parents from whitesboro fighting with umpires ,Offering money to kids to throw at NH kids and challenging people to fight.. How do you rationalize with parents like that? Nobody had the authority to make him stay. Did you ever think he was the smart one to avoid more trouble?

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