AHL coming to Utica
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Manlius, NY

#24 May 20, 2013
Jenna Talia wrote:
They only people who will make money are the players, coaches, and staff and investors (they ALWAYS make sure to get their investment back). They fans and the city and county will be the ones shelling out the dough and giving up tax credits and sweetheart deals that will be non-profitable.
How do you think developers always make out in the end? They make riches even if something fails and the local community is left holding the bag.
Does anyone know who the investors are? They are the ones you have to watch out for.
yupper

Newington, CT

#26 May 20, 2013
well wrote:
<quoted text>It means he doesn't have a logical reply. By the way, I agree with everything you said.
Depression Complaint #2...
Tazzer dud

Newington, CT

#27 May 20, 2013
Jenna Talia wrote:
They only people who will make money are the players, coaches, and staff and investors (they ALWAYS make sure to get their investment back). They fans and the city and county will be the ones shelling out the dough and giving up tax credits and sweetheart deals that will be non-profitable.
How do you think developers always make out in the end? They make riches even if something fails and the local community is left holding the bag.
Depression Complaint #3...
Holy Christ

Newington, CT

#29 May 20, 2013
Just bring a team in...leave the pot-hole complainers at home as they're probably just the type who sit around bitching @ the local news every night anyway. Better yet leave our area, as your your bitching and complaining may be contagious to young bloods.

Let's add to the city instead of constantly subtracting. The complainers just suck the life out of a dead-life city as it is. Let's attempt to build the city up or die trying OR let's just bitch about teachers, taxes and potholes shall we??

You people need to stop being so damn stubborn and take a chance. Better yet goto hell.
Hey Cliffy

Gouverneur, NY

#31 May 20, 2013
Utica Prison Fort Center wrote:
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Uticans do not know of what' you speak. They just think one day a caravan of people will come to the region and rebuild it for them at their cost and risk.
YOU are a Utican!Moron.
Hey Cliffy

Gouverneur, NY

#34 May 20, 2013
Utica Prison Fort Center wrote:
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Truth hurt whitesboro trash?
The only thing that hurts is looking at your fat rashy hand pic. you posted.......gag a maggot.
to utica prison fort

Hartford, CT

#35 May 20, 2013
Is your real name Mark Patkin?
to utica prison fort

Hartford, CT

#39 May 20, 2013
Oh really must be just a coincidence? Marc Patkin from the UFFC is also from Clifton park and is car salesman.
Tell us more

Gouverneur, NY

#40 May 20, 2013
to utica prison fort wrote:
Oh really must be just a coincidence? Marc Patkin from the UFFC is also from Clifton park and is car salesman.
Tell us more about your thoughts on the real Cliffy please.
KOSCABREGGIN DRAIN

Fayetteville, NY

#45 May 21, 2013
Utica Prison Fort Center wrote:
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Actually looked up the profile of this guy and it says he lives in Rochester and is from Syracuse. Nice try though.
Weapons violations are committed by Blacks at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are caught receiving or buying stolen property at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are involved in prostitution at almost 4 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are arrested for drug crimes at over 4 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are more than three times as likely as Whites to be caught at forgery, counterfeiting, and fraud, and almost three times as likely to be caught at embezzlement;

Blacks are more than 3 times as likely to be thieves as Whites;

Blacks are more than 4 times as likely to commit assault as Whites;

Blacks are almost 4.5 times as likely to steal a motor vehicle;

Blacks are more than 5 times as likely to commit forcible rape as Whites;

Blacks are over 8 times as likely to commit murder as Whites;

Blacks are more than 10 times as likely to commit robbery as Whites;

Nearly 25% of all Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 are in jail or on probation - this does not include those wanted or awaiting trial;

For all violent crimes considered together, Blacks are almost 5.5 times more likely to commit violent criminal acts than Whites; all this according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report.

Blacks are four times more likely than Whites to kill their children...

28% of black males go to jail, vs. 4.4% of White males

68.7% of blacks are born out of wedlock!

56% of black women have genital herpes!!!

62% of ALL black births are paid for by the US government.
to utica prison fort

Hartford, CT

#47 May 21, 2013
Yeah I saw all that...but a quick Google search showed a person of that name living in Clifton Park and is a car salesman. Also, a search through his friends show several people and places located in the Albany and Clifton park area. Could be lies or what ever that's why I asked. You know I agree with a lot that you say revolving around the hockey issue and it will be a positive for this area. The problem I have is you constant bashing of everyone that lives in this area. There messed up people and politics here but you don't lump everyone in with the minority. You and the other guy on here going back and forth have ruined several threads on a topic that people just want to know about. It is OK for people to disagree just do it respectfully....but if you can't and you guys want to be tough guys go handle it like men somewhere. Anyway I can wait till a decision is made so I don't have to check back with this site....See ya later "Marc".
KOSCABREGGIN DRAIN

Fayetteville, NY

#48 May 21, 2013
hamburgers wrote:
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Well thanks ... I'm sure I'll get bashing against me for posting soon enough, but I'm just so sick of people who keep putting this area down. Previous politics did most of it. Poor management did it to past sports teams. It's time we step up (2 decades later) a try something different. Every other god damn city around us seems to run a team, even depressed Binghamton! Our ppl are just so depressed here and don't have the heart to step up and accept a CHANGE or at least give an effort to do so.
Weapons violations are committed by Blacks at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are caught receiving or buying stolen property at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are involved in prostitution at almost 4 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are arrested for drug crimes at over 4 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are more than three times as likely as Whites to be caught at forgery, counterfeiting, and fraud, and almost three times as likely to be caught at embezzlement;

Blacks are more than 3 times as likely to be thieves as Whites;

Blacks are more than 4 times as likely to commit assault as Whites;

Blacks are almost 4.5 times as likely to steal a motor vehicle;

Blacks are more than 5 times as likely to commit forcible rape as Whites;

Blacks are over 8 times as likely to commit murder as Whites;

Blacks are more than 10 times as likely to commit robbery as Whites;

Nearly 25% of all Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 are in jail or on probation - this does not include those wanted or awaiting trial;

For all violent crimes considered together, Blacks are almost 5.5 times more likely to commit violent criminal acts than Whites; all this according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report.

Blacks are four times more likely than Whites to kill their children...

28% of black males go to jail, vs. 4.4% of White males

68.7% of blacks are born out of wedlock!

56% of black women have genital herpes!!!

62% of ALL black births are paid for by the US government.
Fit Tony

New York, NY

#50 May 21, 2013
Utica Prison Fort Center wrote:
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Rumor seems to be it is syracuse. But also remember glens falls is heading to Lehigh next year.
From having lived in both areas and attending many games in each, I would think an NHL team would choose Glenns Falls over Utica for their farm team.
Level 3

Since: Jul 12

Farmington, CT

#52 Jun 1, 2013
i guess it would depend on the lease...
Your Reality Check

East Syracuse, NY

#54 Jun 2, 2013
Fit Tony wrote:
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From having lived in both areas and attending many games in each, I would think an NHL team would choose Glenns Falls over Utica for their farm team.
Agreed. With the Phantoms leaving after next season, the mayor and city council of Glens Falls have started a full court press to lure a team to replace Philly's AHL squad. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do give a team a sweetheart deal to call the GFCC home. Now, I'm not sure what leases/deals are up in the AHL after next season but you can be sure GF will be pressing hard to acquire a team (the latest is they were trying to get the Albany Devils to use their "escape clause" to leave Albany for GF and it was close but it looks like the Devs will ride it out in Albany until they can move to Atlantic City).

With GF willing to do pretty much anything to acquire another team (even subsidizing a portion of the team with city's funds), Utica's AHL future looks bleak. The only monkey wrench I can think of is the $2m in upgrades to the Aud... specifically, where is that money going? Extra seating? Parking? Video scoreboard and electronic upgrades?

Is that enough to get the Canucks here for a couple of seasons? Maybe but the chatter of this "deal" has died down recently leading me to believe Vancouver wants some form of subsidization from the county and that would be out of the question. Although, Keeler (insert Keeler joke here) had Anthony Picente on last week and the exec was asked about a potential AHL team and he was rather quick to say "I think it will happen soon." Take it for what it's worth.

173 In Whitesboro

Clifton Park, NY

#55 Jun 2, 2013
Your Reality Check wrote:
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Agreed. With the Phantoms leaving after next season, the mayor and city council of Glens Falls have started a full court press to lure a team to replace Philly's AHL squad. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do give a team a sweetheart deal to call the GFCC home. Now, I'm not sure what leases/deals are up in the AHL after next season but you can be sure GF will be pressing hard to acquire a team (the latest is they were trying to get the Albany Devils to use their "escape clause" to leave Albany for GF and it was close but it looks like the Devs will ride it out in Albany until they can move to Atlantic City).
With GF willing to do pretty much anything to acquire another team (even subsidizing a portion of the team with city's funds), Utica's AHL future looks bleak. The only monkey wrench I can think of is the $2m in upgrades to the Aud... specifically, where is that money going? Extra seating? Parking? Video scoreboard and electronic upgrades?
Is that enough to get the Canucks here for a couple of seasons? Maybe but the chatter of this "deal" has died down recently leading me to believe Vancouver wants some form of subsidization from the county and that would be out of the question. Although, Keeler (insert Keeler joke here) had Anthony Picente on last week and the exec was asked about a potential AHL team and he was rather quick to say "I think it will happen soon." Take it for what it's worth.
Vancouver will be in utica next season.
CCP

Gouverneur, NY

#56 Jun 2, 2013
173 In Whitesboro wrote:
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Vancouver will be in utica next season.
Cliffy will be in his mammy's clam tonight.
173 In Whitesboro

Clifton Park, NY

#57 Jun 2, 2013
CCP wrote:
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Cliffy will be in his mammy's clam tonight.
Intelligent post sex predator.
dont look back

Utica, NY

#58 Jun 2, 2013
Don't count out those Flames boys!!!... A lot has been going on behind the curtain the last 4 weeks...

PS - We won't be getting a team (IMO) for only a season or two. No one in their right mind would A) be stupid enough to do it and B) be stupid enough to spend $$ on a team that is only short term.
Cliffy Alert

Gouverneur, NY

#59 Jun 2, 2013
173 In Whitesboro wrote:
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Intelligent post sex predator.
Warning: Cliffy aka Francis the Can Man of Clifton Park is posting above.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Francis-the-ca...

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