thomas

New Hartford, NY

#22 Oct 28, 2013
I suppose you only count sectional titles as success. Nd stunk before he took over. 8 strait winning seasons and 3 trips to the dome sound pretty good. The best talent ?? They are literally undermanned in every contest. Recruitng and scholarships....lol lol
Lol

Utica, NY

#23 Oct 28, 2013
This is funny
chester

Utica, NY

#24 Oct 28, 2013
Bottom line is that the fiorini guy and his staff have a better record than any other football coaches in the history of Utica city school district football. Is it a great record.... No but it ain't bad considering they play the cream if the crop of AA teams and the best sec 3 has to offer. Consider this, proctor has one of the best running back in the section and they lose.... That should show u that the teams they play are all good teams that are well coached. If the proctor rb was on wboro, wboro would be undefeated. They just don't play the competition proctor plays every week. If the kid was on notre dame, notre dame might win a state championship lol... The teams they play just aren't very good whatsoever.
History repeats

United States

#25 Oct 28, 2013
This post helps intelligent producers realize why the area is so educationally stunted and full of epic failures. They need to be "entertained" with "football" glory clouds. Hopefully that "glory" helps them get real jobs instead of doing like most of the football retards and ending up in a prison or cop dufus job like all the other great ball heroes form that area.
Tbagz

Utica, NY

#26 Oct 29, 2013
History repeats wrote:
This post helps intelligent producers realize why the area is so educationally stunted and full of epic failures. They need to be "entertained" with "football" glory clouds. Hopefully that "glory" helps them get real jobs instead of doing like most of the football retards and ending up in a prison or cop dufus job like all the other great ball heroes form that area.
STFU loser. I'll Tbagz ya!
Unfairness

Utica, NY

#27 Oct 29, 2013
Jeezus wrote:
By the way, there are NO American kids on the boys varsity soccer team, at Proctor.
I know it's disgusting. My grandson didn't make the team because some Somalis or whatever just showed up this summer and took the spots. Makes me want to scream. I'm so sick of the little United Nations we have here!
Clue In

Utica, NY

#28 Oct 29, 2013
Jeezus wrote:
Gates from Westmoreland would be overwhelmed at Proctor. He's in lala land at Westmo. Coaching inner city kids would be a whole new ballgame.
Got news for you- you're clueless!
Notre Dame 88

Utica, NY

#29 Oct 29, 2013
ND did and probably still does offer grants in aid (free tuition waivers) to athletes. I should know I was one and so was Abraham. I lived in Hamilton.
enough

Wilbraham, MA

#30 Oct 29, 2013
Unfairness wrote:
<quoted text>
I know it's disgusting. My grandson didn't make the team because some Somalis or whatever just showed up this summer and took the spots. Makes me want to scream. I'm so sick of the little United Nations we have here!
I agree!!!!!
duh

Utica, NY

#31 Oct 29, 2013
Jeezus wrote:
1. Utica is not a football city. It's baseball & basketball. Rome is football. 2. Proctor's enrollment has nothing to do with winning football. Bosnians, Russians, Asians, Africans, don't play football. I'm sure Pop Warner is very popular for those kids. Football is 99.9% black, white and some Hispanic. The reality is Proctor might actually be more like a B or smaller class A school, with all the diversity. Whitesboro has always been the largest class A school. They might draw from a bigger pool of American kids than Proctor.
Whitesboro is not the largest A school they are 5th largest or so.... Look it up...
chester

Utica, NY

#32 Oct 29, 2013
duh wrote:
<quoted text>Whitesboro is not the largest A school they are 5th largest or so.... Look it up...
Yah but they by far have the most kids participating in football from flag-high school. 2 pop warner programs filled to capacity... Modified football w 70 kids, Jv with 60 kids and varsity w 50-70 kids depending on the yr.
Name another program in section 3 that has those participation #'s... None
They crush all of the AA's in participation #'s except for maybe l'pool bville and that's about it. Talk about an advantage
Jeezus

Cheshire, CT

#33 Oct 29, 2013
Clue In wrote:
<quoted text>
Got news for you- you're clueless!
. Oh yea, fuckface. Have you coached football at Donovan, JFK, or Proctor? You're the clueless asshole! I'm sure Stanford, Harvard, Cornell, etc., etc., mostly white, have never had basically, criminals play football! Miami, Ohio State, USC, LSU, etc., etc., have had players suspended/break the law, even Alabama! Even the NFL, NBA, predominantly black sports have player issues. The Cincy Bengals had 8 players arrested, the stripes they wear are perfect. Is this a racist statement? Probably. Coaching minorities IS different. These kids don't come from 2 parent families, like the suburban kids. And that's a fact! When Proctor plays on the road the stands aren't filled with supportive families. There are some, but not like mostly white schools! Do I know what I'm talking about, yes I do. I coached football for 15 years in Utica. We as coaches faced and face many unique challenges coaching in Utica. Gates' wouldn't know where to begin, his head would spin.
mother mary

New Hartford, NY

#34 Oct 29, 2013
We can tell u coach at proctor just by your language. No wonder your players are like they are
Jeezus

Cheshire, CT

#35 Oct 29, 2013
I know of 4 ex-players, from Donovan that are in prison for murder. One isn't, he was murdered! Westmoreland surely doesn't deal with that. By the way, all were good kids that got caught up in the streets, as adults.
Jeezus

Cheshire, CT

#36 Oct 29, 2013
I would never trade my experiences coaching in Utica. We are more than just coaches. Say what you want, these kids never forget what we tried to instill in them. They responded and wanted discipline. Although, the road was very bumpy at times
Jeezus

Cheshire, CT

#37 Oct 29, 2013
mother mary wrote:
We can tell u coach at proctor just by your language. No wonder your players are like they are
. Oh yea, let those that are innocent cast the first stone! Mother Mary pray for us!
Clue In

Utica, NY

#38 Oct 30, 2013
Jeezus wrote:
<quoted text>. Oh yea, fuckface. Have you coached football at Donovan, JFK, or Proctor? You're the clueless asshole! I'm sure Stanford, Harvard, Cornell, etc., etc., mostly white, have never had basically, criminals play football! Miami, Ohio State, USC, LSU, etc., etc., have had players suspended/break the law, even Alabama! Even the NFL, NBA, predominantly black sports have player issues. The Cincy Bengals had 8 players arrested, the stripes they wear are perfect. Is this a racist statement? Probably. Coaching minorities IS different. These kids don't come from 2 parent families, like the suburban kids. And that's a fact! When Proctor plays on the road the stands aren't filled with supportive families. There are some, but not like mostly white schools! Do I know what I'm talking about, yes I do. I coached football for 15 years in Utica. We as coaches faced and face many unique challenges coaching in Utica. Gates' wouldn't know where to begin, his head would spin.
Not only a clueless racist, but you live in fantasyland with your imaginary coaching pedigree. Next you'll be saying blacks out-perform whites because slave masters 150 years ago scientifically bred them that way- similar to Jimmy The Greek Snyder' commentary back in the 80's! I will agree on the criminal facts, but irrelevant. Gates may not want to come to coach proctor thugs, but doesn't mean he's not capable.
Jeezus

Cheshire, CT

#39 Oct 30, 2013
Clue In wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only a clueless racist, but you live in fantasyland with your imaginary coaching pedigree. Next you'll be saying blacks out-perform whites because slave masters 150 years ago scientifically bred them that way- similar to Jimmy The Greek Snyder' commentary back in the 80's! I will agree on the criminal facts, but irrelevant. Gates may not want to come to coach proctor thugs, but doesn't mean he's not capable.
. Truth hurts, don't it!!!
Same ole excuses

Utica, NY

#40 Oct 30, 2013
Always the same story at Proctor, when they are winning you never hear these stories, but when the have a losing season it's because the kids come from single parent homes, ESL, refugees, trouble-makers, blah, blah, blah. It's amazing what a guy like Bob Hurley Sr. can do with disadvantage kids, or a coach in NYC and any other inner city school. Once you set the tone by throwing out the trouble-makers (ie Josh Wright, Deandre Preaster, etc etc) and sacrificing a few wins in order to get your message through and have the kids buy into your system, then maybe you wouldn't have these excuses.
Jeezus

Cheshire, CT

#41 Oct 30, 2013
Clue In wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only a clueless racist, but you live in fantasyland with your imaginary coaching pedigree. Next you'll be saying blacks out-perform whites because slave masters 150 years ago scientifically bred them that way- similar to Jimmy The Greek Snyder' commentary back in the 80's! I will agree on the criminal facts, but irrelevant. Gates may not want to come to coach proctor thugs, but doesn't mean he's not capable.
. Like you know what's up! You're friggin blind. Imaginary, you wish! That's the best comeback you got? That's why the best in all the major sports are black. Willie Mays, Michael Jordan, Jim Brown. Lebron, Bo Jackson, Wilt Chamberlain, Shaquille, Kobe, Bob Gibson, Kareem, Jerry Rice, LT, Barry Bonds, Kevin Durant, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose. Name equivalent white guys? You can't! And I had a winning record coaching in Utica. If it was just coaching, Gates could probably do it. The fact is it's so much more that you can't comprehend. So, blow it out yurass! Hahaha

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