UPD overstaffed

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#21 Mar 7, 2013
Fred D wrote:
I found the link no problem, are you going to apologize to everyone for your lying?
http://cityofschenectady.com/pdf/2012%20ADOPT...
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I've actually had the budget sitting open for over an hour and was just waiting to see if he would actually post the link which he hasn't. First of all...did anyone bother adding up all of the police officer positions? I don't believe you have. I mean go through every page right down to the police chaplain, the standards investigator...all of them or did you just go to the page that shows 106 regular cops?

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#22 Mar 7, 2013
wow wrote:
OK dunbass your more concerned about the grammer then you are the truth of the post.. so that goes to show me that youre spinning more crap and pushing things in the wrong direction.. so back to the facts still to many employes and tax payers paying to much... so stick with the facts and stop kicking the can to something else...
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I actually agree with you. I never posted I didn't. All I pointed out was the original posters numbers are not accurate...dumbass.
Repeating

United States

#23 Mar 7, 2013
No matter what Brooks, Palmeri, Chief Williams and the rest of the oootica rat pack say, they're lying to protect their worthless hydes.

Utica is broke because of the copsts of the public safety freakshow or underachievers.

According to the Dinapoli report utica pays more than any city for it's Public Safety and uses more than most.

Read the report don't rely on anything an employee of the city of utica ever says. The "public service" utica offers is probably the worst in the state in a lot of other categories too. That's why they need to spread untruths and try to spin everything they say.

"...Utica spends more for public safety than the average city, at 31.2 percent of total expenditures
compared to 25.9 percent. Public safety expenditures grew by 4.4 percent on an average annual basis between 2001 and 2011."
Fred D

Cicero, NY

#24 Mar 7, 2013
108, you got caught in your lie. That is almost 50 less than UPD. At 100k each, including benefits that is 5 MILLION dollars less a year. FACTS are FACTS, and even the State Comptroller pointed out the same.
Utica34 wrote:
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I've actually had the budget sitting open for over an hour and was just waiting to see if he would actually post the link which he hasn't. First of all...did anyone bother adding up all of the police officer positions? I don't believe you have. I mean go through every page right down to the police chaplain, the standards investigator...all of them or did you just go to the page that shows 106 regular cops?

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#25 Mar 7, 2013
Fred D wrote:
108, you got caught in your lie. That is almost 50 less than UPD. At 100k each, including benefits that is 5 MILLION dollars less a year. FACTS are FACTS, and even the State Comptroller pointed out the same.
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Make sure you add them all. Check again.

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#26 Mar 7, 2013
Fred D wrote:
108, you got caught in your lie. That is almost 50 less than UPD. At 100k each, including benefits that is 5 MILLION dollars less a year. FACTS are FACTS, and even the State Comptroller pointed out the same.
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Don't just stop at page 31. Look at page 32, 33, and 34.
Mayor

United States

#27 Mar 7, 2013
Countd police offIcers 4 times and it comes up to 108 and a minimum of 5 MILLION dollars less than Utica!
Utica34 wrote:
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Don't just stop at page 31. Look at page 32, 33, and 34.

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#28 Mar 7, 2013
Mayor wrote:
Countd police offIcers 4 times and it comes up to 108 and a minimum of 5 MILLION dollars less than Utica!
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The number is higher that that. Keep looking. Count all of them.

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#29 Mar 7, 2013
Mayor wrote:
Countd police offIcers 4 times and it comes up to 108 and a minimum of 5 MILLION dollars less than Utica!
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Look at the entire staff and then compare the entire staff with the UPD.
Mayor

United States

#30 Mar 7, 2013
Please provide link to 2012 Utica budget and we cad do a line by line comparision.

I heard Chief Williams admit Schenectady had less officers.
I heard State Comptroller say Utica. Is broke and spends too much for public safety.
Utica34 wrote:
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Look at the entire staff and then compare the entire staff with the UPD.
Mayor

United States

#31 Mar 7, 2013
You don't have to cut any positions if fellow officers accept across the board cuts. Even chief Williams admits the costs are unsustaonable.
Mayor

Utica, NY

#32 Mar 7, 2013
Everyone agrees cuts have to happen, now the blue brotherhood needs to decide whether to take cuts in pay or cuts in people.
Smoke and Mirrors

Utica, NY

#33 Mar 7, 2013
Cut the 7 positions, we've gone this long without them anyway, besides, even if they did fill the 7 positions that would just mean more officers in SOU and CID, patrol would not benefit at all. It would not mean more officers on the street!
pig

United States

#34 Mar 7, 2013
Shit just got real for the pigs....
The Cretin

Gouverneur, NY

#35 Mar 7, 2013
pig wrote:
Shit just got real for the pigs....
Oh Cretin that's not nice!
Repeating

United States

#36 Mar 7, 2013
The Cretin wrote:
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Oh Cretin that's not nice!
Yet again retard you're wrong. For what certainly be the 1st or the last time mental midget, all "US" posters who say things your goat-stupid ass doesn't like are not all me. Idiot.
The Cretin

Gouverneur, NY

#37 Mar 7, 2013
Repeating wrote:
<quoted text>Yet again retard you're wrong. For what certainly be the 1st or the last time mental midget, all "US" posters who say things your goat-stupid ass doesn't like are not all me. Idiot.
Oh Cretin that's not nice!
Repeating

United States

#38 Mar 7, 2013
No matter what Brooks, Palmeri, Chief Williams and the rest of the oootica rat pack say, they're lying to protect their worthless hydes.

Utica is broke because of the copsts of the public safety freakshow or underachievers.

According to the Dinapoli report utica pays more than any city for it's Public Safety and uses more than most.

Read the report don't rely on anything an employee of the city of utica ever says. The "public service" utica offers is probably the worst in the state in a lot of other categories too. That's why they need to spread untruths and try to spin everything they say.

"...Utica spends more for public safety than the average city, at 31.2 percent of total expenditures
compared to 25.9 percent. Public safety expenditures grew by 4.4 percent on an average annual basis between 2001 and 2011."
bad

Carthage, NY

#39 Mar 7, 2013
Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
Cut the 7 positions, we've gone this long without them anyway, besides, even if they did fill the 7 positions that would just mean more officers in SOU and CID, patrol would not benefit at all. It would not mean more officers on the street!
and then when the 7 return the next 7 get sic or injured a never ending cycle
benny

East Hartford, CT

#40 Mar 7, 2013
Yea but they don't have as many raccoons so they can get on with less officers

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