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Secede From NYC

Rome, NY

#23 Mar 20, 2014
More than 10,010 readers participated in this poll, which was conducted Nov. 30 and Dec. 1.

Do you favor the division of New York into separate states for the upstate and downstate regions?
Yes: 67%
No: 33%
ur a turdcutter

Utica, NY

#24 Mar 20, 2014
Criminal Politicians wrote:
<quoted text>ButI have actually read a report that says over 60% of our UPSTATE NY taxes subsidize downstate, namely NYC. Why would we want to hand onto that leech if we didn't have to? Should the report be true, as I believe it is, without NYC burdening us like an Albatross around our necks we would and should have significant tax savings all around. Seperate NY states is a fantastic idea.
Yeah, except that was the case in the 70's and 80's. You're about 30+ years behind there, swifty.
Bass Pro Shop Riggies

Clifton Park, NY

#25 Mar 20, 2014
Criminal Politicians wrote:
<quoted text>ButI have actually read a report that says over 60% of our UPSTATE NY taxes subsidize downstate, namely NYC. Why would we want to hand onto that leech if we didn't have to? Should the report be true, as I believe it is, without NYC burdening us like an Albatross around our necks we would and should have significant tax savings all around. Seperate NY states is a fantastic idea.
Subsidize downstate? Lol. Oh my goodness.
Bass Pro Shop Riggies

Clifton Park, NY

#26 Mar 20, 2014
Secede From NYC wrote:
2/3's support upstate separating from downstate-
http://www.rbj.net/article.asp...
Awesome comments. Here the top one.

"Divorces are always about cash and/or custody. I suggest upstate keeps subsidy/tax support and in return downstate is free to date other states, such as CT and NJ. Upstate keeps the infrastructure, state name, state bird, Yankees and rights to license the name "New York." Downstate keeps the legislators, state flower, Buffalo and the Mets.
—Ian Cunningham "

Great article! Lol
Gay Ed Hanna

Rome, NY

#27 Mar 20, 2014
We need to cut the NYC cords!
Even Better

Rome, NY

#28 Mar 20, 2014
New York City will never let us go. They are the lords in their castle, we the poor serfs tilling the fields that surround them, doing the work and generating the money they need to live as they do. Some things never change.
—Fred Lucas, Duffy Rath System

True Story
Even Better

Rome, NY

#29 Mar 20, 2014
We could/should call ourselves "New Ireland" as was the plan before
utica dummy

Utica, NY

#30 Mar 20, 2014
Yeah, upstate would be dead without nyc money. Has anybody looked around lately? Just booming around here. We got power lines tha t want to go right thru the area for NYC. They want our water, we get the rust. The trains leaving the station, better get on...
Even Better

Rome, NY

#31 Mar 20, 2014
Upstate New York would thrive without downstate. The new state could eliminate the many mandates that the downstate legislators have imposed upon us. This would reduce the cost of government, schools, etc. Rochester could be the next Charlotte, N.C. The new state could become a low-tax haven for people and businesses. The economy would thrive and grow. In fact, we would probably attract many companies from the newly separated downstate area. Also, there is substantial support in downstate for the split. A few years ago, Peter Villone was president of the NYC City Council. Along with 20+ more City Council members, they supported a split. Let's end the occupation of upstate by the downstate monarchy now.
—John Rynne, president, Rynne, Murphy & Associates Inc.
You Go Rob

Rome, NY

#32 Mar 20, 2014
One of our big complaints upstate is school tax, which are some of the highest in the nation as a percentage of value. Thirty-one percent of all state aid goes to New York City, and 13 percent goes to Long Island. The reason? Downstate politics. We have no clout upstate when it comes to "revenue distribution" or controlling unfunded mandates. We have half the programs in our schools and twice the tax rates because the school aid formulas are tainted towards downstate revenue enhancement. Cut them loose I say and let them generate their own revenue. If not, the feds can bail them out like they do everyone else.
—Rob Bick, assessor, town of Clay
Affiliation Riggies

Clifton Park, NY

#33 Mar 20, 2014
Even Better wrote:
Upstate New York would thrive without downstate. The new state could eliminate the many mandates that the downstate legislators have imposed upon us. This would reduce the cost of government, schools, etc. Rochester could be the next Charlotte, N.C. The new state could become a low-tax haven for people and businesses. The economy would thrive and grow. In fact, we would probably attract many companies from the newly separated downstate area. Also, there is substantial support in downstate for the split. A few years ago, Peter Villone was president of the NYC City Council. Along with 20+ more City Council members, they supported a split. Let's end the occupation of upstate by the downstate monarchy now.
—John Rynne, president, Rynne, Murphy & Associates Inc.
Just make sure you can fund all of the state jobs upstate first...oh wait you can't. You receive more than you pay into the budget. All of your great "state jobs"...be prepared for a pay cut. Downstate will sign up for the opportunity to cut upstate loose every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Upstate New York, including where I live in the capital region, is the fat on the steak. They would trim it in a heartbeat if they could.
utica dummy

Utica, NY

#34 Mar 20, 2014
Lets try it. We can have a "sunset clause". If it fails we can all sell pencils or get the f outta dodge. The second option sounds pretty good and has to a lot of others too.
Overweight Cop Riggies

Clifton Park, NY

#36 Mar 20, 2014
Affiliation Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
Just make sure you can fund all of the state jobs upstate first...oh wait you can't. You receive more than you pay into the budget. All of your great "state jobs"...be prepared for a pay cut. Downstate will sign up for the opportunity to cut upstate loose every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Upstate New York, including where I live in the capital region, is the fat on the steak. They would trim it in a heartbeat if they could.
Truth.
ray h

New York, NY

#37 Mar 23, 2014
i don't agree

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