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Jan 19, 2013
 
put any d1 team against a d3 hockey team and they will aniulate th. If the score should be farely close for some reason it will be because of a hot goaltender. However,the shots on goal will be at least 4 to 1 in favor of the d1 team. D1 hockey teams have 4 lines of 1st line d3 players. Most often they are bigger and just as fast as some fast small d3 players. Are there any potential d3 players that can play d1? Sure there are,but not on every d3 team and not many on the d3 teams that have some that can play d1. Nine out of ten times the D1 team would beat up on the D3 team.
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#62
Jan 19, 2013
 
no mind wrote:
put any d1 team against a d3 hockey team and they will aniulate th. If the score should be farely close for some reason it will be because of a hot goaltender. However,the shots on goal will be at least 4 to 1 in favor of the d1 team. D1 hockey teams have 4 lines of 1st line d3 players. Most often they are bigger and just as fast as some fast small d3 players. Are there any potential d3 players that can play d1? Sure there are,but not on every d3 team and not many on the d3 teams that have some that can play d1. Nine out of ten times the D1 team would beat up on the D3 team.
I agree that the DI team would win 9 out of 10 times. I agree most of the time the shots would be 4 to 1. I really agree that DI players are bigger and just as fast if not faster. All these reasons are why they are DI players. If a bunch of the better DIII guys were a little bigger and as fast as they already are, they may be able to play DI hockey. This is why they could compete at times. I think in hockey, it'about 2 or 3 inches in height that makes the difference. In the other sports, baseball, basketball and most certainly in football, you couldn't even put them on the same field or court.
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Jan 20, 2013
 

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My 2 cents UC is putting on a nice product that families can afford. D3 hockey really isn't that big but the UC players are treated like god and that is good for the growth of hockey in the area. AHL would never survive in this area that was proven a few years ago when they brought a game in and it never Sold out. That's why you won't see the AHL come back. We have no money in this area. Trust me if a buck can be made then the area money people would be in and they are not. Just enjoy UC and give up on AHL its not going to happen. And the debate between D1 and D3
not even a debate. A D1 School would destroy a D3 School no question
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Jan 20, 2013
 

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Be happy for the best hockey product on ice in years. UC has been a great hockey experience for this area. To see a full arena, competitive games, and excited crowds is the best we will ever have here. Pro hockey cannot work here: too many greedy people with their hands out.
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#65
Jan 20, 2013
 
resident wrote:
My 2 cents UC is putting on a nice product that families can afford. D3 hockey really isn't that big but the UC players are treated like god and that is good for the growth of hockey in the area. AHL would never survive in this area that was proven a few years ago when they brought a game in and it never Sold out. That's why you won't see the AHL come back. We have no money in this area. Trust me if a buck can be made then the area money people would be in and they are not. Just enjoy UC and give up on AHL its not going to happen. And the debate between D1 and D3
not even a debate. A D1 School would destroy a D3 School no question
Thanks for your opinion but in an interview I heard a few years back from the head coach at Cornell he was quoted as saying DI and DIII hockey really weren't that far apart. The closest out of the four major sports. The interview was on TV. I wish it was in print so that I can show you. I still wish we had pro hockey but our city couldn't afford it. With a smaller venue like we have, ticket prices would be too high and our attendance would slump. Especially if we weren't winning.
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#66
Jan 20, 2013
 
Itwould be really great to get a NHL farm team in the AUD. It is a good size that is not overly crowded. I hope that they come to an agreement with a farm team. It would e nice to see that building used for more than college hockey and graduatios. But at least its being used. A little more parking would be nice as well/
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as a hockey fan in Utica,UC Hockey has been great for our area and provided some great entertainment/and some exciting games.But,believe me there is NO comparison w/AHL.The AHL is the 2nd BEST league in the world.The talent level in the AHL is exceptional and if you get a taste of that you will realize how fortunate we are to have that here.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
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Jan 20, 2013
 
ahl fan wrote:
as a hockey fan in Utica,UC Hockey has been great for our area and provided some great entertainment/and some exciting games.But,believe me there is NO comparison w/AHL.The AHL is the 2nd BEST league in the world.The talent level in the AHL is exceptional and if you get a taste of that you will realize how fortunate we are to have that here.
AHL bad idea. Support UC hockey. Great experience and family etertainment.
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#71
Jan 20, 2013
 
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Anybody who thinks that professional hockey wouldn't be successful in this area clearly doesn't know their ass from a whole in the ground. When the Devils were here the AUD was always packed. It's our shitty greedy politicians that moved them out because of neglect. Then they allowed bullshit teams like the Blizzard, Bulldogs, and Prowlers who never had a chance. If we can put that many people in the seats for that half-assed overhyped college puck, then an AHL team would be no problem. It's the fact that someone might actually have to do some research and work to get them here, and let's face it, Utica doesn't "have time for that." Hence why a college runs the AUD, they didn't have to do anything for them to play there they just took what they can get, typical Utica politics. Then wonder why businesses and residents are fleeing.
i dont know what utica devils games you attended. But the only nights the aud was packed was saturday nights. The games during weeknights was lucky to be half full. I remember many gsmes with 1500 to 1800 fans. Not unless people were dressed to look like empty seats.
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#72
Jan 20, 2013
 
lets get real i went to those games in the early 90's and yes the place was packed, but that was then and this is now. we had 60,000 people living here then and 60,000 now. the difference now is the economy was way better then than now, and we have a bunch more immigrants living here now that dont know what hockey is.
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#73
Jan 21, 2013
 
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AHL bad idea. Support UC hockey. Great experience and family etertainment.
You must get free tickets ! LOL
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tri wrote:
lets get real i went to those games in the early 90's and yes the place was packed, but that was then and this is now. we had 60,000 people living here then and 60,000 now. the difference now is the economy was way better then than now, and we have a bunch more immigrants living here now that dont know what hockey is.
You clearly are not what you pretend. To state 'the place was packed' shows you didn't attend many games when the NJ Devils were here. They averaged between 1300 and 1500 fans for 95% of their games. That is the base attendance for pro hockey in this area. To put another pro hockey team here, and lose the UC event would be devestating for this area's hockey fans.
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#75
Jan 21, 2013
 
EARTH TO MORONS: AHL IS NOT COMING BACK TO UTICA. ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON.
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gfjdheg wrote:
Binghamton Seats 4,710 for hockey Glens Falls Seats 4,806 for hockey Utica Aud hold 4,000 for hockey . The rangers farm team in hartford averages 3,850 and the devils team in albany gets 3,750 a night and they both play in 15,000 plus seat arenas so you can see how empty the game feels and why a move to utica is not as crazy as you guys think. Also less seats means the more demand and the team can charge a little more for tickets
with the new seating they have put in at the Aud. they can only seat 3847 for a sell out. I am a season ticket holder for the UC games. and I have not missed one game yet!!!
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#77
Jan 21, 2013
 
hockey admn wrote:
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You clearly are not what you pretend. To state 'the place was packed' shows you didn't attend many games when the NJ Devils were here. They averaged between 1300 and 1500 fans for 95% of their games. That is the base attendance for pro hockey in this area. To put another pro hockey team here, and lose the UC event would be devestating for this area's hockey fans.
According to hockeydb.com the Utica Devils year by year(6yrs) attendace averages: 2390, 2557, 2708, 2587, 2584, 2728
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Jan 21, 2013
 
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<quoted text>According to hockeydb.com the Utica Devils year by year(6yrs) attendace averages: 2390, 2557, 2708, 2587, 2584, 2728
Im referring to people in the bldg, not tickets sold.
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#79
Jan 21, 2013
 
Devils drew well on fridays and saturdays. Saturdays were normally close to sold out. Weeknights were a half full arena. I think the devils only had one season with a record over 500. I cant see anyway the ahl would survive here. Maybe a major junior club(ohl) would work. The utica college team having a lease would not stop the aud from having other tenants.
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Jan 21, 2013
 
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Devils drew well on fridays and saturdays. Saturdays were normally close to sold out. Weeknights were a half full arena. I think the devils only had one season with a record over 500. I cant see anyway the ahl would survive here. Maybe a major junior club(ohl) would work. The utica college team having a lease would not stop the aud from having other tenants.
Agree with your assessment.
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Jan 22, 2013
 
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Im referring to people in the bldg, not tickets sold.
If you're gonna go by that then there are about 500 UC tickets paid for. The attendance figures for all AHL teams are inflated. When the Crunch say they had 4000 for a game and you actually see 2500 there, they record it as 4000. Same goes for any team. There are so many corporate tickets and season tickets not being used but they still count that as tickets sold. It happens everywhere. Watch an AHL game on Time Warner if you could catch one, take a look at all the empty seats then find the attendance for that game. It's a joke.

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