Utica's Top ten unsolved mysteries
RedDog

Montgomery, AL

#485 Apr 13, 2009
Where is "The Shadow"

That is the question...
RedDog

Montgomery, AL

#486 Apr 13, 2009
Where is the Shadow?

That is the question...

Since: Apr 09

Utica, NY

#487 Apr 13, 2009
i have one new one to add, but it happened in Rome
my neighbor for a time in the 80's in east Utica was a guy named Gary. he lived with his girlfriend and they had a child. i assumed they were married but i found out later they weren't. they also had a large dog in back. i only knew him casually and we talked a little now and then. but he was a good guy although they fought some of the time. never knew his last name.
i moved away across town about 1990 and didn't see him again. about 1995 or '96 his girl got a job where i was working and one day i finally spoke to her for the first time a little bit. as i was walking away to take care of something she said something i only half heard and didn't connect until maybe a month later. she had said something about how awful it was what had happened
to her partner. but it was noisy and i didn't get it right then.
later it dawned on me that my ex-neighbor Gary was the same guy who was killed in a bar somewhere in Rome one night in the early 90's. the case as far as i know was never solved. he died of a head injury. someone had come from behind and hit him with an unknown object of some sort that crushed his skull while he was sitting on a bar stool.
personally i find this scenario hard to believe, but that was the claim from the scene, that no one realized it had happened and no one knew anything.
and his little kid was left fatherless.
Todd Van Poppel

Corning, NY

#488 Apr 19, 2009
Outstanding site, Mickey, thank you. It doesn't look like Shadow is coming back, which is a shame, but here is a great new diversion.
The Shadow

Syracuse, NY

#489 Apr 19, 2009
RedDog wrote:
Where is the Shadow?
That is the question...
Resting with the best of tequila, waiting for summer. This thread takes on a life of its own. What are you up to?
Grandpa

Bellmore, NY

#490 Apr 21, 2009
I was at UC 1981-85 and remember the Ramada and Grillo cases well. Whatever happened to Bernie Hatch? Dead?
pullstart

New York, NY

#491 Apr 21, 2009
where's the Mayor and what does he do????
The Real Deal

Rome, NY

#492 Apr 25, 2009
F####k Bretti. hes a scumbag murderer that better stay in prison. he isnat wanted back on the streets and wont last long. Gaurantee that

Since: Apr 09

Morganville, NJ

#493 Apr 26, 2009
Stu Pid wrote:
<quoted text>Brian Brewer was the other kid wacked. Ithink it was Crocila from Rasberries & Cuda who told Pepe & Brenner how to burn the clothes. They used dry cleaning solution from Pep's parents drycleaning business to light the car. The autopsy found smoke in Brewers lungs so he burned in the car Zajac was dead before he was burned. T o wanna be gangsters!!!
love this site you can just run a name through the mud... you know I think dick chainy ordered it...

Since: Apr 09

Morganville, NJ

#494 Apr 26, 2009
Cindy wrote:
One of the guys was John Zajac and he did work as a bartender at the Fingerbullet near Faxton. Why were they killed?
CinCin, Why Brian and John? only a very small circle knows that. I'm not included in that circle. Money, respect, in these issues always play a large part... but whoever knows wouldn't be typing it, here.
hank

Oneida, NY

#495 Apr 26, 2009
Grandpa wrote:
I was at UC 1981-85 and remember the Ramada and Grillo cases well. Whatever happened to Bernie Hatch? Dead?
don't know if he's dead or not,but he was one sick dude
tony

Holland Patent, NY

#496 Apr 27, 2009
still in the big house , makes great wallets in the craft shop
BPS1

Rome, NY

#497 Apr 27, 2009
http://nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us/kinqw00

His name doesn't appear here..........
THE 2ND DEEB

Utica, NY

#498 Apr 30, 2009
firebreather wrote:
either saddle or hooks daughter.
This is not correct
JazJustice

Utica, NY

#499 May 4, 2009
sandy wrote:
Anyone remember the old mafia meetings at Uncle Henry's Pancake House? The prostitution that took place at the strip club across from White Tower? Illegal gambling in Rome at Lou Falcones house? Oh, the good old days! I miss Utica sometimes.
Thanks for loading me up with quarters for pool and slim Jims guys. You all went upstairs and I had to stay downstairs rolling the poolballs around eatin' slim jims.
angry

New York, NY

#500 May 5, 2009
Jack wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought we were talking about her brother Angelo.
My bad
The grillo female worked at a bank. She was stealing money for the mob. She got greedy and then got killed. Her poor daughter was raised by her sister and suffered the most out of this!!!!!!!!!!
BPS1

United States

#501 May 5, 2009
angry wrote:
<quoted text>
The grillo female worked at a bank. She was stealing money for the mob. She got greedy and then got killed. Her poor daughter was raised by her sister and suffered the most out of this!!!!!!!!!!
She worked at a local insurance company not a bank.
The Real deal

Rome, NY

#502 May 6, 2009
And she didnt get greedy . She was cashing the checks in NYC at the check cashing places. The mob said she didnt bring the whole amount back. Then it was said that she was cooperating with fbi. She wasnt Dennis Pritchard was. So she got murdered for no reason. They got her to come with them because they had dope. Sad but true
Old East Utican

AOL

#503 May 6, 2009
Who killed Connelly with the gernade attached to his car in front of Allens Bakery on Genesee Street?? And why??
Old East Utican

AOL

#504 May 6, 2009
Why did Hatch kill Linda Cady???

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