Utica's Top ten unsolved mysteries
Annoyed

Cicero, NY

#211 Sep 7, 2008
Oh damn, who were the two that got burned in the car at riverside? One was john zajac and I cant remember the others name, Vinny something. I remember hearing it was a major drug thing gone bad, and that they were killed and burned by some Rastafarians. No joke on the Rastafarians thing.
BPS1

Rome, NY

#212 Sep 7, 2008
Annoyed wrote:
Oh damn, who were the two that got burned in the car at riverside? One was john zajac and I cant remember the others name, Vinny something. I remember hearing it was a major drug thing gone bad, and that they were killed and burned by some Rastafarians. No joke on the Rastafarians thing.
one of the killers was vincent pape or pepe. he'll be in prison for the next thousand years.
Annoyed

Cicero, NY

#213 Sep 7, 2008
Wasn't Vinny Pape one of the guys killed? I think so, but I could be wrong.
Careen

AOL

#214 Sep 7, 2008
Why were they killed? What was the story on that? I remember John from when I used to go to the Finger Bullet years ago.
Annoyed

Cicero, NY

#215 Sep 7, 2008
Drug deal gone bad, from what I understand.

Since: Jul 08

Manlius, NY

#216 Sep 7, 2008
you are right annoyed and the killer was never caught but the main suspect was matty from sicilian delight

Since: Jul 08

Manlius, NY

#217 Sep 7, 2008
ok there was a cop shot back it early 80's late 70's i believe his name is anthony ricco on ruckter st ring a bell i belive it was a jamacan man how shot him ???
curious george

New York, NY

#218 Sep 8, 2008
Captain Vertigo wrote:
Gabe was a suspect but was not the guy. Yeah he was quircky but no dice on this one. She was somewhat developmentally disabled. Whoever did it knew her path, followed her. The perpetrator had to be a first class nut case. It was cold very cold, light snow on the ground at the scene. If the forensics that exist now existed then the case may have been solved. Hatch was a more interesting suspect.
was this gabe the guy that use to do kareoke? never been married and lives with his mother? just was wondering. not too many gabes around.
Burned Car

Syracuse, NY

#219 Sep 8, 2008
The killers at Riverside Mall were Vinny Pape and Dave Benner. Benner was in jail from 1995 was reeleased and went back in 2007, convicted of Manslaughter 1, Criminal Facilitation and Assault 2nd. He was re-released in June 08 on parole. I believe Pape might still be in the can ? Not sure. They killed those guys over weed.
xxx

Manlius, NY

#220 Sep 8, 2008
killed over money not weed money money
Careen

AOL

#221 Sep 8, 2008
You're kidding. That's a shame.
Shadows are everywhere

New York, NY

#222 Sep 8, 2008
It was said that the two murderers took blood soaked clothes to the land of a local pizza shop owner to burn the evidence. That same owner later testified that he thought the blood stains were paint stains. Seems the individual burned in the parking lot was actually bludgeoned to dead at the North Utica Shopping Center and his body was disposed of by fire to destroy trace evidence.
Captain Vertigo

New York, NY

#223 Sep 8, 2008
I don't know what Gabe is doing now. He was cleared long ago regarding the incident on South Park Dr. I hope this cold case gets solved.
JAS

Manlius, NY

#224 Sep 10, 2008
Shadow.....where are you!!!
Stu Pid

Port Jefferson Station, NY

#225 Sep 12, 2008
Annoyed wrote:
Oh damn, who were the two that got burned in the car at riverside? One was john zajac and I cant remember the others name, Vinny something. I remember hearing it was a major drug thing gone bad, and that they were killed and burned by some Rastafarians. No joke on the Rastafarians thing.
Brian Brewer was the other kid wacked. Ithink it was Crocila from Rasberries & Cuda who told Pepe & Brenner how to burn the clothes. They used dry cleaning solution from Pep's parents drycleaning business to light the car. The autopsy found smoke in Brewers lungs so he burned in the car Zajac was dead before he was burned. T o wanna be gangsters!!!
mental

Manlius, NY

#227 Sep 12, 2008
I remember Benner from highschool. He was even creepy back then. He used to hit on me mercilessly and when I turned him down he started following me home. I used to go into a neighbor's yard and hide until he drove away so he wouldn't know which house was mine. I'm not surprised that he ended up in prison!
There

Syracuse, NY

#228 Sep 12, 2008
old days wrote:
<quoted text>the guys who were convicted of killing angela grillo were john diamico,danny nappi and dominic bretti
Dominic Bretti had been a criminal almost his whole life. However he has been in jail FOREVER and is in his 70's. He's been rejected for parole everytime. Truthfully what harm can he do now?????? They should let him out already.( At least his family thinks so.) Seriously though he is ancient what harm can he do???
xxxx

Manlius, NY

#229 Sep 13, 2008
if joe was alive you would not be talking like this he had the grillos killed al marrone several others you people crush me i cant understand why you keep it up enough already just cause he did not pull the trigger does not mean he is innocent
millsboy

United States

#230 Sep 13, 2008
the guy found castrated by the old Ramada?
1980's?
Stephanie

AOL

#231 Sep 13, 2008
Shadow! Come on back!

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