Hanna will NOT Debate, in hiding

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Hiding Hanna

Utica, NY

#1 Jun 13, 2014
ere’s why:

- Hanna is the only Republican member of the Lesbian Gay Bi-sexual and Transgender caucus

- Hanna biggest supporter is an out of state, radical gay rights billionare

- Richard Hanna voted to raise the National Debt Limit

- Hanna pulled strings for defense contracts in companies he’s heavily invested

-He was the only Republican to vote against a January bill that would have banned health insurance plans from covering abortion services under the Affordable Care Act

- In his first term, he voted against legislation that would have cut off federal aid for Planned Parenthood

- Hanna called fellow Republicans "extremists" and "unable to lead"

- Hanna told women to send money to the Democrats instead of his own party

- Hanna refuses to debate his opponent and publicly defend his own record thereby sabotaging the democratic process and disrespecting the voters.

- Richard Hanna 3rd most liberal Republican in Congress according the National Journal
Truth

Utica, NY

#2 Jun 13, 2014
This kind of cut and paste works both ways:

"·Assemblywoman Tenney has been in Albany for a decade on a taxpayer-funded payroll as both an Assemblywoman and staffer. Before finally getting her own seat in Albany, she ran and lost for several local offices. Assemblywoman Tenney is also a trial lawyer on the side and has a penchant for mixing her personal business with official government duties and votes.

·The Syracuse Post-Standard said,“The challenger’s claims don’t always hold up to a check of the facts” when describing how Assemblywoman Tenney is lying about Richard Hanna’s record on Obamacare, the Second Amendment and other issues.(Syracuse Post-Standard, 5/19/2014)

·Assemblywoman Tenney voted against downsizing New York’s bloated state government. Tenney opposed elimination, consolidation, or merger of numerous government boards and commissions, including more than a dozen that had been inactive or already completed their mission.(A09060; 3/28/2012)

·Upstate New Yorkers pay some of the highest property taxes in the nation, but Assemblywoman Tenney voted against $1.5 billion in property tax relief—relief that our families desperately need.(2014-15 New York state Budget)

· Assemblywoman Tenney was the only Republican member of the New York state Assembly from Central New York who voted against creating a hi-tech center which would help create thousands of jobs in the Mohawk Valley.(2014-15 New York state Budget)

· Assemblywoman Tenney cosponsored a bill to censor the Internet and abridge the First Amendment by banning anonymous Internet speech.(New York state Assembly bill A08688)

· Assemblywoman Tenney says she is against earmarks and pork barrel spending, however, in Albany she has sponsored millions of dollars in special interest earmark spending.(New York state Assembly bills A03294, A09069)

· Assemblywoman Tenney says she is against raising taxes, but Tenney cosponsored a Democratic bill in Albany that will raise sales taxes.(New York state Assembly bill A08710)

· Upstate New Yorkers pay some of the highest energy costs in the nation, but Assemblywoman Tenney voted against phasing out an energy tax on New York businesses.(2014-15 New York state Budget)

· The death tax unfairly hurts Upstate family farms and small businesses when an owner passes away, but Assemblywoman Tenney voted against reducing the death tax burden on thousands of New York farms and estates.(2014-15 New York state Budget)

· Assemblywoman Tenney says she is working hard for Upstate in the Assembly, but she is so ineffective that not one single bill that she has introduced has ever passed.(New York state Bill Search website accessed April 28, 2014)"
Republican Voter

Utica, NY

#3 Jun 13, 2014
See... Hanna can't talk about his record. He is even afraid to publicly defend his record in a debate.

I remember when Hanna first ran for congress. He had a true grassroots campaign and he certainly wasn't afraid to debate. He was truly a citizen candidate.

Now he has morphed into a Beltway insider politician who needs the support and guidance of radical left-wing out of state billionaires.
Richard has exceeded his sell by date and has forgotten who he was when he first ran.
Truth

Utica, NY

#5 Jun 13, 2014
Hey Mr Truth! Obviously you are art of Hanna's campaign... What Washington based insider consulting firm did he hire you from?

If Hanna's support is strong here in upstate, why does he need the backing of an out of state billionaire?

Can you show one current Democratic member of Congress who has bashed his own party like Hanna has bashed his party?

Can you tell me why on Primary day Republican voters should reward Hanna after working against them and their beliefs?

How does Hanna feel about his friend Cantor losing his primary?
dang me

Utica, NY

#6 Jun 13, 2014
They both stink but what makes matters really bad is the questionable democrat leader in the area who seen this opening and did not run a candidate.. Great opportunity for a conservative democrat to get into the mix and win when a split is opened with two republicans.Hey leader ford stop it with the small thinking and positioning of favored power in things that dont matter and by the way,,,,, who in the republicans are YOU supporting by not running a democratic candidate. Something stinks in Denmark.When is the area going to get a REAL democrat the run the party.
Republican Voter

Bloomfield, NY

#7 Jun 13, 2014
It's highly likely Hanna made a deal to switch parties with the local Democratic party leadership. Hanna certainly hasn't denied it and his actions demonstrate that he is a Democrat at heart.

Just read in the OD: almost a million dollars spent in the campaign. The vast majority of it on Hanna. His biggest source of the money is from some radical gay out of state billionaire and the Oneida Indian Nation. WTF

Richard, you have forgotten everything you stood for when you first ran.
Im for Tenny

Utica, NY

#8 Jun 13, 2014
Ta ta hanna. The boat is going to get rocked
Truth

Utica, NY

#9 Jun 13, 2014
Truth wrote:
Hey Mr Truth! Obviously you are art of Hanna's campaign... What Washington based insider consulting firm did he hire you from?
If Hanna's support is strong here in upstate, why does he need the backing of an out of state billionaire?
Can you show one current Democratic member of Congress who has bashed his own party like Hanna has bashed his party?
Can you tell me why on Primary day Republican voters should reward Hanna after working against them and their beliefs?
How does Hanna feel about his friend Cantor losing his primary?
I'm not part of anyone's campaign and I don't speak for anyone but me. I don't know what anyone's motives are for contributing to Hanna's campaign. I'm guessing that they believe he better represents their interests than the opposition. Isn't that why anyone donates to a particular candidate? It's neither wrong nor is it illegal. It's the way the system works for everyone and not just Hanna. The fact that someone from out-of-state contributes doesn't mean anything either. Hanna is running for national office, not state.

I hesitated in answering this post because it's the same old parroting of half-truths. Once again, Hanna did not bash the entire Republican Party. He said he was concerned with the fact that leadership was catering to the far right in the party. You should look it up before you repeat that again. Hanna is more of a moderate. The key to change is compromise. Moderates compromise, the extremes do not. Our nation was built on compromise and not on partisan power plays like what we see today. That partisanship is why we have the gridlock we do and why congressional approval ratings are in the teens. Do some research, get some facts and try to understand the subject matter before again just repeating what someone else said. Here's a start. Hanna's congressional website has a portion dedicated to his explanations for every vote. http://hanna.house.gov/

Tell me specifically how Hanna has voted "against them and their beliefs?"(your words)

I'm sure Hanna's campaign and Hanna's supporters are concerned given what happened to Eric Cantor. But then Eric Cantor is not like Hanna and the 22nd congressional district is not the 7th congressional district in southwest Virginia. Their main concern (and mine) is that uneducated, ill-informed voters will base their opinions about who to vote for on the misleading political ads.
Truth

Utica, NY

#10 Jun 13, 2014
Republican Voter wrote:
See... Hanna can't talk about his record. He is even afraid to publicly defend his record in a debate.
I remember when Hanna first ran for congress. He had a true grassroots campaign and he certainly wasn't afraid to debate. He was truly a citizen candidate.
Now he has morphed into a Beltway insider politician who needs the support and guidance of radical left-wing out of state billionaires.
Richard has exceeded his sell by date and has forgotten who he was when he first ran.
His record is available for anyone to see. It's as transparent as glass. It just takes a little effort. An explanation for everything he's voted on is on his website.( http://hanna.house.gov/ )You just have to be ambitious enough to look and intelligent enough to understand what you are reading. It's easier just to repeat things you heard in the commercials though isn't it? the problem with doing that though is that it isn't all true.
Truth

Utica, NY

#11 Jun 13, 2014
Republican Voter wrote:
It's highly likely Hanna made a deal to switch parties with the local Democratic party leadership. Hanna certainly hasn't denied it and his actions demonstrate that he is a Democrat at heart.
Just read in the OD: almost a million dollars spent in the campaign. The vast majority of it on Hanna. His biggest source of the money is from some radical gay out of state billionaire and the Oneida Indian Nation. WTF
Richard, you have forgotten everything you stood for when you first ran.
Is it more important to adopt the herd mentality(like partisans on both sides do) and vote with the party than it is to vote for and represent the needs of the 22nd congressional district? There are plenty of representatives in congress that just go along to get along. You won't be able to accurately answer that question until you do some homework and understand what Hanna' record actually is. It's more than obvious from your posts that you have not done that.

I guess based on your comment you think Claudia Tenney doesn't take contributions from people and organizations who believe that she represents their point of view. Because if you don't think that then what you say is hypocritical isn't it?
Republican Voter

Woonsocket, RI

#12 Jun 13, 2014
Time and time again you keep avoiding answering simple straight forward questions about Hanna:
-Almost a milion dollars have been spent on Hanna from money donated by an out of state radical gay billionaire and the Oneida Indain Nation. If Hanna is so strong, why does he need their support?
- name ONE Democratic member of Congress who called his fellow Democrats "extremists" and told people to send their money to Republicans? In other words, name the Hanna equivalent on the Democratic side.
- why am I getting flyers from Hanna saying he is a "conservative" while on the other hand brags about being a moderate voting against his party? Who is the real Richard Hanna?
- why is Hanna so afraid of publicly defending his record in a debate? The "Tenney is a liar" is a cowardly way out. Is it because he believes that Republican voters aren't smart enough to decide for themselves?
Im for Tenny

Utica, NY

#13 Jun 13, 2014
40 years of "COMPROMISE" have brought us to where we are today. The party is over. Tata hanna and ilk.
Truth

Utica, NY

#14 Jun 13, 2014
Im for Tenny wrote:
40 years of "COMPROMISE" have brought us to where we are today. The party is over. Tata hanna and ilk.
If you really knew what you were talking about you'd never say that. Compromise has become less and less common over the past number of years. Never in our history has politics so polarized with both major parties bowing to the extremes.
Truth

Utica, NY

#15 Jun 13, 2014
Republican Voter wrote:
Time and time again you keep avoiding answering simple straight forward questions about Hanna:
-Almost a milion dollars have been spent on Hanna from money donated by an out of state radical gay billionaire and the Oneida Indain Nation. If Hanna is so strong, why does he need their support?
- name ONE Democratic member of Congress who called his fellow Democrats "extremists" and told people to send their money to Republicans? In other words, name the Hanna equivalent on the Democratic side.
- why am I getting flyers from Hanna saying he is a "conservative" while on the other hand brags about being a moderate voting against his party? Who is the real Richard Hanna?
- why is Hanna so afraid of publicly defending his record in a debate? The "Tenney is a liar" is a cowardly way out. Is it because he believes that Republican voters aren't smart enough to decide for themselves?
Okay. One at a time, again.

-Hanna is running for national office. People who donate to any campaign more often than not do that because they believe a candidate they donate to best represents their point of view. People who think Ms. Tenney represents their point of view donate to her. It's just that there aren't as many and they aren't as well off. There is nothing wrong or illegal about someone donating to a candidate they agree with.

-Hanna did not call ALL Republicans extremists. Only those on the far right wing of the party who resist moderation and compromise. As for your question about Democrats. There is a group of Democrats in congress called "Blue Dog Democrats". Like Hanna they do not agree with the extreme (left) wing of their party. Like Hanna they lean more toward the center. They include bit are not limited to: Ron Barber (Ariz.), Cheri Bustos (Ill.), Nick Rahall (W. Va.), Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) and Kurt Schrader (Ore.).

-There are all different kinds and levels of conservatism. One can be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. In fact most Republicans probably fall in that category. The opposite is true too though less common. There is no one all-encompassing definition of conservative. To determine how conservative Richard Hanna is or isn't the place to look is his voting record and his explanations for why he voted the way he did on an issue. If you actually did that instead of parroting what you hear in the Tenney for congress commercials you would know who the real Richard Hanna is. Better yet, call him. He's given his phone number out on numerous occasions. I've heard it more than once on WUTQ's Talk of the Town.

-What does Hanna have to gain by debating Tenney? Nothing. Having listened to many interviews with Ms. Tenney I can only guess that he doesn't see getting involved in a mud slinging fest as in his best interest. I don't speak for him though. Maybe the thing to do if you really want the answer is to speak to him or someone who represents him rather than posting the question anonymously on a blog.

You may not like the answers I've given but they are answers.
Republican Voter

Woonsocket, RI

#16 Jun 13, 2014
Weak.... very weak answers.

- National office? Hanna is supposed to be running as OUR local congressman. It's obvious that Hanna has forgotten that. Cantor was focused on" national" office too . How did that work out for him.
- Naming a few Blue Dog Democrats doesn't answer the question. Let's see some quotes on where they are calling their fellow Democrats extremists and telling people to donate to Republicans.
- Speaking of calling people" extremists" ... you are quibbling. Hanna shouldn't be calling any Republicans extremists, especially after Republicans worked hard to get him elected.
- so who is Hanna? You are telling me that he isn't a conservative while he flyers clearly make the claim. Either you or Hanna are trying to mislead Republican voters on who he really is.
- Still haven't denied that Hanna is ready to switch to the Democratic party. In a evenly divided district like this one it makes perfect sense for them to run their own candidate. Politicians in this area are notorious for making these kinds of deals. It looks like there is an understanding of some kind.
- Hanna has everything to gain by a debate. He could show the voting public that he is proud of his record and that he is a strong confident leader. Right now he looks nervous, weak, and not proud of his record.
- When Hanna first ran he was a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. Now he has become a fiscal liberal and a far left social radical. Why should Republicans support a candidate like that?
Truth

Utica, NY

#17 Jun 13, 2014
Republican Voter wrote:
Weak.... very weak answers.
- National office? Hanna is supposed to be running as OUR local congressman. It's obvious that Hanna has forgotten that. Cantor was focused on" national" office too . How did that work out for him.
- Naming a few Blue Dog Democrats doesn't answer the question. Let's see some quotes on where they are calling their fellow Democrats extremists and telling people to donate to Republicans.
- Speaking of calling people" extremists" ... you are quibbling. Hanna shouldn't be calling any Republicans extremists, especially after Republicans worked hard to get him elected.
- so who is Hanna? You are telling me that he isn't a conservative while he flyers clearly make the claim. Either you or Hanna are trying to mislead Republican voters on who he really is.
- Still haven't denied that Hanna is ready to switch to the Democratic party. In a evenly divided district like this one it makes perfect sense for them to run their own candidate. Politicians in this area are notorious for making these kinds of deals. It looks like there is an understanding of some kind.
- Hanna has everything to gain by a debate. He could show the voting public that he is proud of his record and that he is a strong confident leader. Right now he looks nervous, weak, and not proud of his record.
- When Hanna first ran he was a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. Now he has become a fiscal liberal and a far left social radical. Why should Republicans support a candidate like that?
-It called the United States Congress. that's a national office. The congressional district is what is local. Hanna votes to represent the interests of the district not the national party.

-The Blue Dogs routinely criticize the president and the far left. I guess you would have to pay closer attention to know that though. I'm still not sure how Dems act toward one another has to do with this primary. What you are saying is that every representative should vote with the powers that be in his or her respective party rather that voting their conscience and what they believe is best for their district? That's exactly why we have the dysfunction we have and is what Hanna is against. The irony too is that many times Ms. Tenney votes her conscience rather than voting with the party in the New York State Assembly. When she does that she's standing up for what's right but when Hanna does it he's not a real Republican? Do you understand the double standard in what you are saying?

-The far right wing of the Republican Party are extremists just as the far left on the Democrat side are extremists. They are on the fringe. They have views that do not represent the majority of the population. Most people are in the center or as I believe, a little right of center. There is an old saying that goes something like, "there is his side, there is her side and there is the truth". Good legislation and good government relies on bringing two or more sides together. Extremists don't do that. Moderates do.

-I've never heard anything about Hanna switching parties. Where does that come from. As I said before maybe the best way to get that and questions like that answered is to ask him.

-Hanna has voted over 50 times against Obamacare. he voted against special interest earmarks that cost the taxpayers billions every year. The largest conservative organization , the American Conservative Union rates Hanna the 3rd most conservative congressman from New York. Like I said many time before, the truth is in his record and not in commercials from his opponent or organizations stumping for his opponent.

You can keep throwing your nonsense out there but the facts just don't seem to back you up the way I look at it. You are very typical of people who don't bother to look at history and the truth. A true follower.
Republican Voter

Fairport, NY

#18 Jun 13, 2014
So now Hanna's the conservative....when it suits him still haven't answered any questions. Let me see a quote from a Democratic Congressman who has called members of his party extremists and told people to send their money to the other party.

Still haven't explained why the first time ever one of the major political parties doesn't have anyone running for Congress against an incumbent. Where is the Democrat Candidate for Congress? What kind of deal did Hanna make with Mitch Ford? Why won't he deny that he might switch parties?

The office of congressman may be a national office but he is still locally elected. Why does Hanna need an out of state radical leftwing billionaire to finance his campaign? Just who does Hanna represent?

If Hanna is so proud of his record, why is he hiding from a debate? Is he afraid that Republicans will see his left wing record for what it is?

You are forgetting that this is a Republican primary, not a general election. No Democrats, no independents, no "moderates". Hanna has done a very poor job selling himself to the Republicans who will vote in the primary.
Other Peoples money

Utica, NY

#19 Jun 13, 2014
So Richard Hanna is bought and paid for by a radical Washington based billionaires and the Oneida Indian nation. Wow! Richard Hanna is one of us!
SOI

New Hartford, NY

#20 Jun 13, 2014
Bottom line is he's scared to debate and won't stand up for himself.

I don't want some weak and frightened representative in Congress, I want someone who at least has the guts to participate in a debate.

My God who is this guy really that we've got in office?!
Im for Tenny

Utica, NY

#21 Jun 13, 2014
SOI wrote:
Bottom line is he's scared to debate and won't stand up for himself.
I don't want some weak and frightened representative in Congress, I want someone who at least has the guts to participate in a debate.
My God who is this guy really that we've got in office?!
A RINO

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