Utica Fire Department into New Hartford
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Little Falls, NY

#23 Mar 19, 2013
its more than just a title of being a city. there is a certain legal distinction and legal responsibilities that differ from being a town to a city.

Funny how "kyle is union stooge" contradicts himself. Starts off saying UFD and NHFD all receive the same training and what not, which is true. But then goes on to say that NH would be light years ahead.

BTW, it doesn't matter where the base of the sales taxes are. 4% of the sales tax goes to the State of NY and the other 4.75% of the 8.75% you pay in Oneida County goes to the County. It is up to the State and County as to how those sales tax revenues are divided up among the municipalities. You would be naive to think the tax formula directs tax revenues in a way reflective of where they are actually collected. Hardly. Ever heard of "sharing the wealth"? Yeah, sales tax dollars collected from sales in NH can end up anywhere in Oneida County and NYS for that matter.

The taxes you should be more concerned with locally are property taxes.
Freebie the Bean

Geneva, NY

#24 Mar 19, 2013
Let me remind you people...Russ Brooks...will be 85 on May 21. The oldest active fire chief in NYS. Saved a total of 14 UFD firemen in 9 different structure fires. Was hired on at age 19 in 1947. Was a Korean and Vietnam war veteran. Awarded 3 silver stars,1 bronze star, 4 purple hearts, a CIB, senior jumpmaster wings, and a legion of merit. Earns $112K/year...has a 2012 Escalade (city vehicle) at his disposal..on/off duty. Trying to secure long-term bonding of $12M for 7 new pieces of fire apparatus (new tower unit, 4 new engine trucks, 1 tanker, and a state-of-art salvage rig). Anyone in Utica have a problem with this?
Right

United States

#25 Mar 19, 2013
So will Brooks cede the portions of South Utica around French and Higby where New Hartford is much closer? After all, this is about public safety.
wrong again

Little Falls, NY

#26 Mar 19, 2013
His military service is highly suspect.

You don't get purple hearts from paper cuts and word has it he'd never been in any military action on the lines.
I love Russ too

Schenectady, NY

#27 Mar 19, 2013
Freebie the Bean wrote:
Let me remind you people...Russ Brooks...will be 85 on May 21. The oldest active fire chief in NYS. Saved a total of 14 UFD firemen in 9 different structure fires. Was hired on at age 19 in 1947. Was a Korean and Vietnam war veteran. Awarded 3 silver stars,1 bronze star, 4 purple hearts, a CIB, senior jumpmaster wings, and a legion of merit. Earns $112K/year...has a 2012 Escalade (city vehicle) at his disposal..on/off duty. Trying to secure long-term bonding of $12M for 7 new pieces of fire apparatus (new tower unit, 4 new engine trucks, 1 tanker, and a state-of-art salvage rig). Anyone in Utica have a problem with this?
He also deep throats like a champ just ask palmieri

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#28 Mar 19, 2013
Right wrote:
So will Brooks cede the portions of South Utica around French and Higby where New Hartford is much closer? After all, this is about public safety.
Hah.
Scent of a woman

Ardsley, NY

#29 Mar 19, 2013
Kyle wrote:
A couple of weeks ago, Utica Fire Chief Russ Brooks suggested the City of Utica provide fire protection and emergency medical service to the Sherman Hills section of New Hartford. He correctly pointed out the Mohawk Street firehouse is much closer to this section than New Hartford's firehouse. I think the Shepherd Place firehouse is, too. This suggestion has alot of merit and is worth considering.

I hope New Hartford's elected officials and firefighters don't play politics with this issue. People's lives are at stake.

The city could raise alot of revenue by agreeing with the Village of New Hartford (I think the village owns the fire department) to provide fire protection and emergency medical service to the town north of Higby Road. This includes the Sherman Hills area, the Valley View Road, Cascade Drive, Sedgewick Park, Ironwood Road area and Stonebridge/Lower Woods Road area. Response time and quality of service would significantly improve. These people own some of the most valuable homes in the region, pay alot of property tax and deserve better service than volunteers provide. New Hartford's response time is too long, and their firefighters have no where near the experience Utica firefighters have.

Don't play politics with public safety. People's lives are at stake. New Hartford, do the right thing and shift this tax money to the city of Utica, which is the base of our economy. We need to keep that core healthy, and this is one common sense way to do it. It should have been done decades ago.
Well some parts of that area have a Utica zipcode I don't see why If an emergency arose why the nearest fire station couldn't respond. I would think when it comes to saving someone's life Petty things shouldn't matter. We are a community We help one another.

Utica34
Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Albany, NY

#30 Mar 19, 2013
Scent of a woman wrote:
<quoted text>
Well some parts of that area have a Utica zipcode I don't see why If an emergency arose why the nearest fire station couldn't respond. I would think when it comes to saving someone's life Petty things shouldn't matter. We are a community We help one another.
The only way the UFD helps is if there's money in it for them. New Hartford does not want or need uticas help with anything. They're doing just fine.
26 is my hero

Carthage, NY

#31 Mar 19, 2013
Utica fire department should stick to what their good at..... Showing porn to elementary school kids and let new Hartford stick to their own business
vollys

Utica, NY

#32 Mar 19, 2013
NH cant make it any place faster they are vollys who drive from home to station wait for enough people and then drive to call...... will never have a faster response time than PROFESSIONAL Firefighters!
Wow

Utica, NY

#33 Mar 20, 2013
Kyle wrote:
A couple of weeks ago, Utica Fire Chief Russ Brooks suggested the City of Utica provide fire protection and emergency medical service to the Sherman Hills section of New Hartford. He correctly pointed out the Mohawk Street firehouse is much closer to this section than New Hartford's firehouse. I think the Shepherd Place firehouse is, too. This suggestion has alot of merit and is worth considering.
I hope New Hartford's elected officials and firefighters don't play politics with this issue. People's lives are at stake.
The city could raise alot of revenue by agreeing with the Village of New Hartford (I think the village owns the fire department) to provide fire protection and emergency medical service to the town north of Higby Road. This includes the Sherman Hills area, the Valley View Road, Cascade Drive, Sedgewick Park, Ironwood Road area and Stonebridge/Lower Woods Road area. Response time and quality of service would significantly improve. These people own some of the most valuable homes in the region, pay alot of property tax and deserve better service than volunteers provide. New Hartford's response time is too long, and their firefighters have no where near the experience Utica firefighters have.
Don't play politics with public safety. People's lives are at stake. New Hartford, do the right thing and shift this tax money to the city of Utica, which is the base of our economy. We need to keep that core healthy, and this is one common sense way to do it. It should have been done decades ago.
. Utica already covers st Luke's for new Hartford
I like cheese

Great Barrington, MA

#34 Mar 20, 2013
Wow wrote:
<quoted text>. Utica already covers st Luke's for new Hartford
Wrong. Luke's isn't in NH district.

Look at the facts people. What will Sherman dr and valley view bring Utica. About $50,000 in tax money that's it. What can he do with that? Hire one more guy. Maybe someone should look at all the facts when they talk nonsense.

You can throw all the derogatory slurs you want at volunteer firefighters. But I can guarantee you the guys your calling inbred rednecks have more heart then any one of those paid guys in Utica as you say.

Brooks had a horrible turnout for his last civil service exam because no one wants to be a part of his circus.
NHhomeowner

Utica, NY

#35 Mar 20, 2013
I live just off the Parkway in NH and a few years ago I had a small fire that triggered an alarm and it took the NH fire dept. 17 minutes to get to my house. I could of rebuilt my house how long they took. Luckily, we controlled the fire. Mohawk Street could of got here within minutes. It is a no-brainer.
dont be cheap

New York, NY

#36 Mar 20, 2013
Utica34 wrote:
<quoted text>
The only way the UFD helps is if there's money in it for them. New Hartford does not want or need uticas help with anything. They're doing just fine.
Far from it. NH calls Utica often, especially at St. Luke's hospital, where NH does not have the resources to cover. NH is not doing just fine.
dont be cheap

New York, NY

#37 Mar 20, 2013
I like cheese wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Luke's isn't in NH district.
St. Luke's certainly is in New Hartford. Read a map. The border between Utica and New Hartford is not far from the facility but it is for certain in New Hartford. The Utica OD did a big write up on Utica FD covering a fire there last year when in fact NH should be covering it.
dont be cheap

New York, NY

#38 Mar 20, 2013
NHhomeowner wrote:
I live just off the Parkway in NH and a few years ago I had a small fire that triggered an alarm and it took the NH fire dept. 17 minutes to get to my house. I could of rebuilt my house how long they took. Luckily, we controlled the fire. Mohawk Street could of got here within minutes. It is a no-brainer.
Yes, it is a no-brainer. Tell your officials in NH to expand fire services for NH.
Stupid people

Horseheads, NY

#39 Mar 20, 2013
NHhomeowner wrote:
I live just off the Parkway in NH and a few years ago I had a small fire that triggered an alarm and it took the NH fire dept. 17 minutes to get to my house. I could of rebuilt my house how long they took. Luckily, we controlled the fire. Mohawk Street could of got here within minutes. It is a no-brainer.
This is ridiculous and an outlandish claim with no proof. Typical of the people that post on here. You have nothing to corroborate this other than your anonymous post. Good luck with that credibility.
David

Utica, NY

#40 Mar 20, 2013
It is 100% true, happened to me too. NH fire station is 8 miles from my home. Do the math, remember it is volunteers. It should not be volunteers anymore and they should have 1 or 2 more stations. NH is huge now with all the business's it has. Utica should shrink with 50% less people and no business.
I like cheese

Great Barrington, MA

#41 Mar 20, 2013
dont be cheap wrote:
<quoted text>
St. Luke's certainly is in New Hartford. Read a map. The border between Utica and New Hartford is not far from the facility but it is for certain in New Hartford. The Utica OD did a big write up on Utica FD covering a fire there last year when in fact NH should be covering it.
Yes on a map you are correct. But you fail to realize that fire districts have nothing to do with maps idiot. St. Luke's is actually in NY Mills for district but you idiots wouldn't take the time to figure that out before you posted. And the Utica OD can write about whatever they want to doesn't mean it's factual. That ragsheet excuse of a newspaper is best used as toilet paper.

NHFD has never called UFD for mutual aid while UFD has used NHFDs services many times.

Respond with real facts that are true to the fire service. You all need to come to the realization that Brooks is not almighty and is just power hungry. He wants more control, more power, more money at your expense. But all of you are to busy rubbing one out in his honor to realize what he is doing.
Councilman

Great Barrington, MA

#42 Mar 20, 2013
David wrote:
It is 100% true, happened to me too. NH fire station is 8 miles from my home. Do the math, remember it is volunteers. It should not be volunteers anymore and they should have 1 or 2 more stations. NH is huge now with all the business's it has. Utica should shrink with 50% less people and no business.
Take this issue to your elected officials. Reynolds will fight for it with the town. Bring it to their attention. A second station on Seneca turnpike. Hell lets get rid of Chadwicks fire dept and have NH take that over too. Maybe the Mills should give up their territory too, then it will be NHFD and UFD two professional departments saving the world from all that is evil

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