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Utica, NY

#1 Jan 1, 2014
Competition to host the test sites was fierce, with state economic development agencies predicting the expansion of a major industry.

The six winners, chosen from a field of 25, included Griffiss International Airport, a former Air Force base near Rome, N.Y., which will fly some tests from Cape Cod in Massachusetts, and Virginia Tech, which will fly in Virginia and has an agreement with Rutgers University in New Jersey for testing there as well. Virginia Tech plans to conduct “failure mode” testing — finding out what happens if the aircraft’s control link is lost.

The other winners were the University of Alaska, which plans to test in Hawaii and Oregon as well as Alaska, the State of Nevada, the North Dakota Department of Commerce, and Texas A&M University Corpus Christi. Michael P. Huerta, the administrator of the F.A.A., said the sites provided diverse geography, climate and air traffic density.
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Utica, NY

#2 Jan 1, 2014
Griffiss.
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#3 Jan 1, 2014
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Griffiss selected as national drone test site
By Joleen Ferris
Story Created: Dec 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM EST
Story Updated: Dec 30, 2013 at 5:16 PM EST
The Federal Aviation Administration has announced the six unmanned aircraft systems testing sites that will be located throughout the country.  Among them: New York State, specifically, Griffiss International Airport in Rome.
New York partnered with Massachusetts in order to secure a site. Congressman Richard Hanna says it's a geographic dream for testing unmanned aircraft.
"Because we've got the terrain with four seasons and we have the hills and the open space it's just, it's a perfect marriage," Hanna said.
It's a burgeoning industry that's expected to create thousands of jobs in New York state over the next three years, hundreds of them at or near Griffiss.
"And over time we expect that they'll hire -- 470 is the number I've heard -- to 500 people, good paying, real middle class jobs," says Hanna.
The Griffiss/Massachusetts partnership is one of six sites chosen to safely integrate unmanned aircraft systems into national airspace in a variety of applications, including civilian.
"Everything that you can imagine that needs to be done to make sure these things are functioning and meeting the current demands around the world for these devices and for this country for a whole host of purposes will be tested here," says Hanna.
NUAIR, a conglomerate of public entities, private industries and academic institutions, was formed to help secure a site for New York and Massachusetts. NUAIR will set up offices at Griffiss, but officials there say the majority of jobs and hiring will come from companies who manufacture the aircraft and want to locate where they'll be tested.
The FAA is requiring that at least one of the six sites be up and running within 180 days. Officials with NUAIR hope the New York/Massachusetts site will be one of those.
Non starter

United States

#6 Jan 1, 2014
There are no jobs. Once again it's an announcement of remote potential but nobody in their right minds will screw with NY. The research is already done they just need to test things. It's another group deciding on a plan not a factory that news paper is so gullible. Nobody is going to pay anyone to do anything there. "Competition was fierce" haha! Always making like the area is so "desirable" there was no "competition" per se there's basically enough slots for all of us.
Truth

Utica, NY

#7 Jan 1, 2014
What are the qualifications for these jobs exactly?
How long is this testing likely to last?

"NUAIR, a conglomerate of public entities, private industries and academic institutions, was formed to help secure a site for New York and Massachusetts. NUAIR will set up offices at Griffiss, but officials there say the majority of jobs and hiring will come from companies who manufacture the aircraft and want to locate where they'll be tested."

This paragraph is key. Why would any company want to locate here with high taxes, high transportation costs, union dominance, the regulatory burden and all the rest of things that make New York in general and our area in particular the worst place to do business in the country? Will it be one of Governor Cuomo's 10-year tax free deals? If it is then my guess is that any business that does come will be here for exactly 9 years and 364 days. Does that really benefit anyone besides the business?
David Smith

New Hartford, NY

#8 Jan 1, 2014
Truth wrote:
What are the qualifications for these jobs exactly?
How long is this testing likely to last?
"NUAIR, a conglomerate of public entities, private industries and academic institutions, was formed to help secure a site for New York and Massachusetts. NUAIR will set up offices at Griffiss, but officials there say the majority of jobs and hiring will come from companies who manufacture the aircraft and want to locate where they'll be tested."
This paragraph is key. Why would any company want to locate here with high taxes, high transportation costs, union dominance, the regulatory burden and all the rest of things that make New York in general and our area in particular the worst place to do business in the country? Will it be one of Governor Cuomo's 10-year tax free deals? If it is then my guess is that any business that does come will be here for exactly 9 years and 364 days. Does that really benefit anyone besides the business?
Jobs will be non-union technical jobs. and will be tax free as you identify..
http://startup-ny.com/
Most people will need to have a 4 year software/technical/engineering degree or better.
one who knows

New Hartford, NY

#9 Jan 1, 2014
Most of the people that are eligible for these jobs have already left Utica.

The only ones that are even remotely eligible are newly graduated students from UC or Suny with no experience.
David Smith

New Hartford, NY

#10 Jan 1, 2014
Will draw some from local vicinity and from other areas where engineers have been laid off or looking for a better opportunities. e.g., LMCO Syracuse had a layoff a few months ago. This is not going to be 400+ jobs for people who do not have technical degrees or are part of some union...
Derp

Schenectady, NY

#11 Jan 1, 2014
Of course nobody is qualified in the area, if you have any real technical talent you've moved away a long time ago.

1) Pay - The payscale in the Utica/Rome area is VERY substandard, you move two hours away and you get paid twice the amount you would in your typical central NY office.

2) Management - Every company in the area has HORRIBLE management, its the old style 1950's management of threats, nepotism, and intolerance.

Thats why I laugh when I read these posts about the chip plant or high tech drone work, 99% of the nosepickers in the area could barely handle a broom in one of these places.
Awesome News

Utica, NY

#13 Jan 2, 2014
The FAA does not currently allow commercial use of drones, but it is working to develop operational guidelines by the end of 2015. The FAA projects some 7,500 commercial drones could be aloft within five years.

While drones have been primarily used by the military, governments, businesses, farmers and others are making plans to join the market. Potential civil and commercial uses of drones include agriculture, disaster relief, environmental research and pipeline monitoring.

Nationwide, the unmanned aircraft systems industry is projected to create an estimated 70,000 new jobs by 2017 and more than 100,000 by 2025, according to an economic impact report published by the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International. According to the report, the total economic impact of UAS industry in the U.S. could reach $82 billion by 2025.
Truth

Utica, NY

#14 Jan 2, 2014
Awesome News wrote:
The FAA does not currently allow commercial use of drones, but it is working to develop operational guidelines by the end of 2015. The FAA projects some 7,500 commercial drones could be aloft within five years.
While drones have been primarily used by the military, governments, businesses, farmers and others are making plans to join the market. Potential civil and commercial uses of drones include agriculture, disaster relief, environmental research and pipeline monitoring.
Nationwide, the unmanned aircraft systems industry is projected to create an estimated 70,000 new jobs by 2017 and more than 100,000 by 2025, according to an economic impact report published by the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International. According to the report, the total economic impact of UAS industry in the U.S. could reach $82 billion by 2025.
More pie-in-the-sky estimates from those who have something to gain.

Are you including Jeff Bezo's (Amazon) delivery drones in those projections?
Derp

Syracuse, NY

#15 Jan 2, 2014
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
More pie-in-the-sky estimates from those who have something to gain.
Are you including Jeff Bezo's (Amazon) delivery drones in those projections?
Um, who else makes investments other than those who have something to gain from it?
</end Utica logic>
Tomato Pie In The Sky

United States

#16 Jan 2, 2014
Truth wrote:
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More pie-in-the-sky estimates from those who have something to gain.
Are you including Jeff Bezo's (Amazon) delivery drones in those projections?
Amen. I have a partner who designs and has drone brains built that he sells online and is doing a brisk business. He wants to stay in that area to make them I'm slowly changing his mind pointing out how ridiculous it is. Rome means nothing to us this is just a protocol being determined I don't see where all these "jobs" are going to come from we have our stuff made on pick&place machines far far away from OC.

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Utica, NY

#17 Jan 2, 2014
As usual with an OD story, it is impossible to ascertain what the actual employment may be and where it will take place among the locations chosen. The 500 is a headline that is not verified in the story.
Tomato Pie In The Sky

United States

#18 Jan 2, 2014
So are all the other ridiculous claims they post in the Observer Dispatch. The politicians pick numbers out of their asses and WKTV and the OD report them. Notice once elections are over they quickly quiet down.

I couldn't think of more than two people I would say could even understand what they are "doing" at Griffis let alone people who would be worth hiring there. There is nothing to do or "make" we have all this made offshore and if it's sensitive to export there are a few places in Az and around who will make our boards for us. Our plan is taking their final system and making a small modular version of transponder/coordinator the end users can just add to their existing equipment. This is such total BS about "all these jobs" they just never stop lying and making ridiculous promises up there when most people can't get the fcuk out fast enough wow!
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Utica, NY

#19 Jan 2, 2014
Ignorance Is Bliss wrote:
Make sure you post when this actually happens! Lol


Why do you care?
Truth

Utica, NY

#20 Jan 2, 2014
Derp wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, who else makes investments other than those who have something to gain from it?
</end Utica logic>
There is a huge difference between true investment from the private sector and government using tax dollars to prop up selected projects. Think Utica Comets.
Derp

Syracuse, NY

#21 Jan 2, 2014
Truth wrote:
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There is a huge difference between true investment from the private sector and government using tax dollars to prop up selected projects. Think Utica Comets.
Lol what?
well

Utica, NY

#22 Jan 2, 2014
Be interested to see WKTV interview one of the new job winners.
santa

Clinton, NY

#23 Jan 2, 2014
the big jobs are at where they actually build them not test them .They are not building them here.They will use the runways here and have a few people here to set things up and they can actually be controlled by remote global positioning satellite from bum fuc anywhere.The fun we get to enjoy is when one comes down on one of our houses and the first hand spying we get on our lifes.Listen up dummies ,if there were so much jobs to be gained here there would have been a battle of the powers to be in congress to get them in their districts. We got the bone ,as usual.Check where they are being built.

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