Where's my taxes in Utica going?

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alarmclock

Jamesville, NY

#1 May 17, 2014
Where do all my taxes in Utica go to?

Highest sales tax in the Country and property taxes rising unethically every year. Yet the property you own is decreasing in value almost monthly, our crime has gotten out of control, the school system is a complete mess, and there's no jobs here, let alone people interested in working at all.

Utica has seen NO new business as far as the city itself goes, and we're even at a point where we're turning businesses away. What is wrong with people? Uticans will storm meetings over a gas station being put in a vacant lot in an area that is already commercial but will bend over and take it in the ass over taxes, school, and public safety. It's actually sad to see what the people of Utica work together to accomplish and then what they completely omit.

Wake up Utica! We are not here to set the record for the most corrupt city in America, but seem to be heading that way. Stop letting these uneducated spineless politicians take you for a ride. It's very easy to see nothing has or is being done in this city unless it's lining the select few's pockets.

A welfare epidemic, unwarranted projects, no businesses moving in, unemployment rates soaring, property value decreasing, public safety failing, a disgrace of a school district, and yet all your politicians will tell you that Utica is fine. Keep voting with your eyes and ears closed.
uticaSucks

Utica, NY

#2 May 17, 2014
In Palmieri's pockets.
Lol

Utica, NY

#3 May 17, 2014
I don't cate who believes me or not but everything you just complained about comes back to one factor more then politicians. That would be BLACKS. When people admit this we can try and find a resolution or segregation. If not then America will be dead in 40 years. Whites and blacks are too different to exist in a society together. It has nothing to do with hate or anyone being better then anyone. We just live differently. Look at Africa compared to France or England. Why cant people admit this

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#5 May 17, 2014
Lol wrote:
I don't cate who believes me or not but everything you just complained about comes back to one factor more then politicians. That would be BLACKS. When people admit this we can try and find a resolution or segregation. If not then America will be dead in 40 years. Whites and blacks are too different to exist in a society together. It has nothing to do with hate or anyone being better then anyone. We just live differently. Look at Africa compared to France or England. Why cant people admit this
You're clueless.

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#6 May 17, 2014
alarmclock wrote:
Where do all my taxes in Utica go to?
Highest sales tax in the Country and property taxes rising unethically every year. Yet the property you own is decreasing in value almost monthly, our crime has gotten out of control, the school system is a complete mess, and there's no jobs here, let alone people interested in working at all.
Utica has seen NO new business as far as the city itself goes, and we're even at a point where we're turning businesses away. What is wrong with people? Uticans will storm meetings over a gas station being put in a vacant lot in an area that is already commercial but will bend over and take it in the ass over taxes, school, and public safety. It's actually sad to see what the people of Utica work together to accomplish and then what they completely omit.
Wake up Utica! We are not here to set the record for the most corrupt city in America, but seem to be heading that way. Stop letting these uneducated spineless politicians take you for a ride. It's very easy to see nothing has or is being done in this city unless it's lining the select few's pockets.
A welfare epidemic, unwarranted projects, no businesses moving in, unemployment rates soaring, property value decreasing, public safety failing, a disgrace of a school district, and yet all your politicians will tell you that Utica is fine. Keep voting with your eyes and ears closed.
Two major issues are the bloated UPD and UFD salaries.
Lol

Utica, NY

#7 May 17, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
You're clueless.
yea i'm clueless alright. Shooting after shooting.
Lol

Utica, NY

#8 May 17, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
Two major issues are the bloated UPD and UFD salaries.
yes here we go again its police and fires fault all over the country. Not the blacks that are why they are needed and the welfare, slums and high crime areas they produce. Like the guy above said I'm clueless so don't believe me

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#9 May 17, 2014
Lol wrote:
<quoted text>yes here we go again its police and fires fault all over the country. Not the blacks that are why they are needed and the welfare, slums and high crime areas they produce. Like the guy above said I'm clueless so don't believe me
Oh so if utica moved every black person out of the city they would eliminate the police department then? Sounds simple hitler...let's start concentration camps and exterminate the blacks and we would no longer need police or prisons. The US would become utopia correct? You're so clueless and that's the reason you're stuck there.

Level 7

Since: Jan 08

Rome

#10 May 17, 2014
If given the choice between a) paying your property taxes or b) flushing the money down the toilet, which would give you the greatest return?

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#11 May 17, 2014
frankcor wrote:
If given the choice between a) paying your property taxes or b) flushing the money down the toilet, which would give you the greatest return?
Sounds like a trick question. Is there an option c?
truthdotcom

Jamesville, NY

#12 May 17, 2014
It seems like there's one common theme for all the problems in Utica, welfare. Every major problem here stems from it. It's not a race issue, but a class issue. This city caters to welfare and the greedy politicians wouldn't exist without it. Cut the safety net and cash assistance then watch them all flee. All races. The city would fix itself within 5 years if it did that. People are not just coming here from other cities within the state but from across the country and all over the world for our welfare system that Utica will accomidate to.

If Utica wants to continue making itself the Welfare Capital of the World then the results and future will reflect just that, like they already have.

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#13 May 17, 2014
truthdotcom wrote:
It seems like there's one common theme for all the problems in Utica, welfare. Every major problem here stems from it. It's not a race issue, but a class issue. This city caters to welfare and the greedy politicians wouldn't exist without it. Cut the safety net and cash assistance then watch them all flee. All races. The city would fix itself within 5 years if it did that. People are not just coming here from other cities within the state but from across the country and all over the world for our welfare system that Utica will accomidate to.
If Utica wants to continue making itself the Welfare Capital of the World then the results and future will reflect just that, like they already have.
I agree partially. It's going to still take hitting a reset button still some point I believe to right that ship however.
Lol

Utica, NY

#14 May 17, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh so if utica moved every black person out of the city they would eliminate the police department then? Sounds simple hitler...let's start concentration camps and exterminate the blacks and we would no longer need police or prisons. The US would become utopia correct? You're so clueless and that's the reason you're stuck there.
its sad to say but yea it would be a start and at least could cut the upd in half. There would be zero shootings this year so far so i guess we both are making sense. Don't pull the race card because its not racist. In prejudice against the way most of them live.

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#15 May 17, 2014
Lol wrote:
<quoted text>its sad to say but yea it would be a start and at least could cut the upd in half. There would be zero shootings this year so far so i guess we both are making sense. Don't pull the race card because its not racist. In prejudice against the way most of them live.
What bubble do you live in? Seriously?

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#16 May 19, 2014
alarmclock wrote:
Where do all my taxes in Utica go to?
Highest sales tax in the Country and property taxes rising unethically every year. Yet the property you own is decreasing in value almost monthly, our crime has gotten out of control, the school system is a complete mess, and there's no jobs here, let alone people interested in working at all.
Utica has seen NO new business as far as the city itself goes, and we're even at a point where we're turning businesses away. What is wrong with people? Uticans will storm meetings over a gas station being put in a vacant lot in an area that is already commercial but will bend over and take it in the ass over taxes, school, and public safety. It's actually sad to see what the people of Utica work together to accomplish and then what they completely omit.
Wake up Utica! We are not here to set the record for the most corrupt city in America, but seem to be heading that way. Stop letting these uneducated spineless politicians take you for a ride. It's very easy to see nothing has or is being done in this city unless it's lining the select few's pockets.
A welfare epidemic, unwarranted projects, no businesses moving in, unemployment rates soaring, property value decreasing, public safety failing, a disgrace of a school district, and yet all your politicians will tell you that Utica is fine. Keep voting with your eyes and ears closed.
The audit comes out on the 21st. Should give you a good idea.
Truth

Utica, NY

#17 May 19, 2014
alarmclock wrote:
Where do all my taxes in Utica go to?
Highest sales tax in the Country and property taxes rising unethically every year. Yet the property you own is decreasing in value almost monthly, our crime has gotten out of control, the school system is a complete mess, and there's no jobs here, let alone people interested in working at all.
Utica has seen NO new business as far as the city itself goes, and we're even at a point where we're turning businesses away. What is wrong with people? Uticans will storm meetings over a gas station being put in a vacant lot in an area that is already commercial but will bend over and take it in the ass over taxes, school, and public safety. It's actually sad to see what the people of Utica work together to accomplish and then what they completely omit.
Wake up Utica! We are not here to set the record for the most corrupt city in America, but seem to be heading that way. Stop letting these uneducated spineless politicians take you for a ride. It's very easy to see nothing has or is being done in this city unless it's lining the select few's pockets.
A welfare epidemic, unwarranted projects, no businesses moving in, unemployment rates soaring, property value decreasing, public safety failing, a disgrace of a school district, and yet all your politicians will tell you that Utica is fine. Keep voting with your eyes and ears closed.
The common thread that runs through most tax increases in New York is the cost of healthcare and pension benefits for New York State employees. That is especially true with teacher unions and explains why spending goes up, up, up and achievement remains stagnant or goes down.
Truth

Utica, NY

#18 May 19, 2014
Lol wrote:
<quoted text>yes here we go again its police and fires fault all over the country. Not the blacks that are why they are needed and the welfare, slums and high crime areas they produce. Like the guy above said I'm clueless so don't believe me
Trash comes in all colors, shapes, sizes and sexual orientation.
management letter

Selkirk, NY

#19 May 19, 2014
To get to the truth, the meat and potatoes is in the management letter and management response to that management letter. A reporter or management could twist the truth but if you want the truth, FOIL the management letter. Jimmy zecca, piersma and od would have a field day with that letter.

Level 7

Since: Jan 08

Rome

#20 May 19, 2014
Truth wrote:
The common thread that runs through most tax increases in New York is the cost of healthcare and pension benefits for New York State employees. That is especially true with teacher unions and explains why spending goes up, up, up and achievement remains stagnant or goes down.
Can you say "unsustainable legacy costs?"

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#21 May 19, 2014
frankcor wrote:
<quoted text>Can you say "unsustainable legacy costs?"
Exactly.

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