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Dec 7, 2013
 
Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>no, I am actually very experienced in several different kinds of work. That include. Landscape , welding, auto mechanic, carpentry, galvanizing , construction. And many more , so I have to say that I'm worth a lot more than minimum wage. I am a very intelligent person. Just because you can use proper grammer does not make you any better than me.and I have NEVER worked at a fast food joint thank you!
If you are experienced in several different kinds of work, then you have a better opportunity at getting a better paying job than minimum wage. The other person's post about your grammar didn't say anything about being better than you, he/she just highlighted your lack of proper grammatical context within your post. That fact is not up for debate. And if you say you are worth more than minimum wage and are not working at a fast food joint, then what is your line of employment that is only paying you minimum wage? You may think you are worth more than minimum wage, but the market will decide what you are worth based on the job your are employed at and what the wage is for that job. All wages are based on nothing more than what the job is worth which is based on the job requirements and also the supply/demand dynamic of the employment pool of workers. If a college professor is pumping gas, delivering pizza, or taking your order at a fast food joint, it doesn't matter that he/she was a college professor and the job is not based on that. The wage is based on the intelligence (and sometimes not so much intelligence) that it takes to perform the job functions. If college professors are a dime a dozen, then there is no longer any value in being a college professor that would give a college professor any leverage in demanding a higher wage. Do you understand those simple facts or is this common sense debate falling on deaf ears?
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Raise the minium wage. Pay services empoyees more so that they can afford to pay for their own health insurance heat child care instead of the government having to do it. If a company has to raise their pricing, so be it. It will be a lot cheaper than to have these blouted govenrment programs doing it.
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make minium wage 2.00 an hour and see how much they bitch. then 7.25 will sound real dam good. but these people will complain if it was 29.00 an hour. and want a raise to do nothing. ps well said slim
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#30
Dec 10, 2013
 
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How can you live off of 10,000 to 12,000 a year. Lawmakers make up to $100 an hour , that's close to 200,000 a year!while the hard working citizens that make this country get paid a low wage and barley get by. The rich get richer and the poor get get poorer!
Your post answers the question you are asking. You can "barley" write, you are not worth more than minimum wage...get educated, then you can qualify for a job that pays more than minimum wage. You have to EARN it, that starts with an education.
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Dec 10, 2013
 
Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>prices have been rising for the past 4 years and wages remain the same. So inflation has been happening any way. And 4 out of 5 student that receive a education do not get a job when they get out of college . So education is not thee solution . They need more jobs that pay out . This is what McDonald 's makes.The average McDonald's worldwide has sales of $1,808 per day.
This calculation is made as follows:
(1) Worldwide gross revenue for McDonald's is $20,460 million dollars per year;
(2) There are 31,000 McDonald's worldwide; and
(3) There are 365 days per year.
A simple arithmetic average is made as follows:([$20,460,000,000 / 31,000]/ 365)=$1,808.22.
Hope this helps.
OK, let's use your math. According to your calculations, the local McDonald's store will earn $1,808.22 today. Let's assume they are open for 14 hours per day, so that means the store is making a profit of $129.16/hour. Now, they have to pay the rent, keep the lights on and maintain stoves and buy the food they cook and sell. Let's be conservative and say those costs are covered with $50/hr, I'm guessing it's much, much higher than that. So, we are left with $79.16/hour. They still need to pay for insurance and taxes, let's allow $20 for those costs of doing business, so now we are down to $59.16/hour...at $15/hour to employ each employee, my local McDonald's can only employ 4 people...and that chews up the remainder of the money...there is not a penny left for profit. Now, the reason the McDonald's is in business is not to employ people who have no skills, and it is not to feed people who are too lazy to buy groceries and prepare their own meals. The McDonald's is in business to make a profit...if there is no profit to be made there will be no McDonald's and those four employees who demanded $15 for no-skill labor will have no job at all.

It's all in the math.
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Dec 10, 2013
 
Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>thanks for the correction dusch bag. And why do you enjoy mc doubles at mcdonalds . Fat bastard mabye they should raise prices on burgers so there would be less obese people in America . I personally don't eat mcdonalds. It's unhealthy and dirty. You should become a English teacher so you can sit at a desk and stuff your face with mcdonalds and correct words. Your lucky I don't come to your house and off you like the pig you are!
First, that's DOUCHE bag, not dusch bag. YOU are the one who needs an English teacher.

Second, if you don't eat at McDonald's because "It's unhealthy and DIRTY", then why do you support paying the people who make this not edible food a $15/hour wage? If they work at a restaurant and the food they prepare is not fit to be eaten, they should be fired, not given a raise.

Third, you're lucky we don't know where you live or we'd have you arrested for making terrorist threats. Rather than complain about the minimum wage and threaten people who correct your grammar and spelling errors, maybe you should get an education and kill both birds with one stone.
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Dec 10, 2013
 
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Less than 20 percent of all McDonalds are actually owned by McDonalds. The majority are franchises that operate off of razor thin profit margins of 5 percent or less. So a McDonalds franchise that has $600K in revenue annually with a profit margin of 5 percent only makes about $30K per year. A lot of people think fast food chains are rolling in dough, but this is not the case. Most of the money these chains take in goes to pay for things like overhead, advertising, building and renovating new stores, etc. McDonalds would have to double its prices in order to pay their employees 15 dollars per hour. This would result in a loss of business and hence a loss of jobs. Would you be ok with half as many McDonalds stores and half as many McDonalds employees as we have today?
You make a great point.

And, since you asked...I'd be happy with no McDonald's stores. That crap they sell isn't fit to eat at any cost.
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Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>thanks for the correction dusch bag. And why do you enjoy mc doubles at mcdonalds . Fat bastard mabye they should raise prices on burgers so there would be less obese people in America . I personally don't eat mcdonalds. It's unhealthy and dirty. You should become a English teacher so you can sit at a desk and stuff your face with mcdonalds and correct words. Your lucky I don't come to your house and off you like the pig you are!
I don't eat at McDonalds ever. Don't care for fast food.

You're (which is the contraction for you are and not your like you used in your diatribe) lucky that you post anonymously so people won't make fun of you for your lack of basic grammar skills.

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Dec 11, 2013
 
Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>you must have written a book seeing that your skills are very good in writing.you must also be the English teAcher that corrects people on topix.so did I pass the test what was my score?get a life instead of correcting people on topix you must get off on that type of shit tho. But you obviously knew what I meant if you corrected me. So who's the retard?
Not at all. I just think that it's important to be able to convey a thought in writing without bad language, name calling and all of the rest of the tactics you employ. Just a personal preference. I think the way a person writes/speaks in public says a lot about them.

People have posted here that they think that a raise in the minimum wage is appropriate. If the posts from these advocates were well written and understandable then I might be more open to their opinion. One of the biggest complaints among employers today is their worker's lack of basic math and writing skills. Maybe if more people took the approach that these things were important then employers would pay them more.

To answer your question, no one is the retard. Some just have better grammar skills and are better able to convey a thought in writing.
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Dec 11, 2013
 
Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>you must have written a book seeing that your skills are very good in writing.you must also be the English teAcher that corrects people on topix.so did I pass the test what was my score?get a life instead of correcting people on topix you must get off on that type of shit tho. But you obviously knew what I meant if you corrected me. So who's the retard?
I hope you get the point of my commenting on grammar. Here on Topix grammar matters very little and if you are able make your point without spelling well or using proper punctuation and sentence structure it probably doesn't matter. But, if this is the way you speak and write in your everyday life then you probably need to take a good look in the mirror. Instead of asking your fellow consumers to foot the bill for an increase in your pay maybe you should be asking yourself how you can better your skills in order to make yourself a better employee or qualify for a better job.

The compensation for any job should be the least amount that the most qualified candidate will accept. It's also based on supply and demand. The larger the pool of people qualified to do a job, the less the job will pay. Compensation should not be based on what it costs for a person to pay their bills.
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#39
Dec 11, 2013
 
Cmonpeople2 wrote:
<quoted text>why did you capitalize earn?you must lack grammar skills also. And I don't make minimum wage . I'm very well educated and don't need your input on what I'm worth.i can run circles around you with the knowledge that I have.just because I misspelled a word or used improper grammar does not mean I'm less intelligent than you.my strongpoint is math not English ok dumbass.
Seems if your strong point is math you would be able to do the figuring to realize that our economy can not support raising the minimum wage to $15/hour, when the productivity of the people demanding that income would not cover the cost of their employment.
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Dec 11, 2013
 
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Not at all. I just think that it's important to be able to convey a thought in writing without bad language, name calling and all of the rest of the tactics you employ. Just a personal preference. I think the way a person writes/speaks in public says a lot about them.
People have posted here that they think that a raise in the minimum wage is appropriate. If the posts from these advocates were well written and understandable then I might be more open to their opinion. One of the biggest complaints among employers today is their worker's lack of basic math and writing skills. Maybe if more people took the approach that these things were important then employers would pay them more.
To answer your question, no one is the retard. Some just have better grammar skills and are better able to convey a thought in writing.
First off, you're no Shakespear . You'd be well served to get a copy of The Elements of Style , by Strunk and White. No one cares what you "just think."
To the issue of minimum wage, you are simply wrong headed.

The Republicans have screamed foul on raising the minimum wage every time it's come up. They claim it will destroy the economy , etc. Historically there has been no such results. Do you really believe that a system driven by fear and greed, without some fair regulations is a good idea? Do you think that a system that results in all the wealth being sucked up to the top five % is healthy in the long run?

I am an employer, and I would never expect an employee to continue to work for my company for a wage that is less than it takes to live on. It's not even good for business. When auto worker were working for a dollar a day, Henry Ford paid five. Costco pays 15 dollars an hour to start while Wall Mart pays nine. These companies seem to be doing all right.

Your grammar isn't too bad, but your politics sound like the musings of a certain fat slob of a sociopath, on the radio.

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Dec 11, 2013
 
The problem is not that people are against raising the minimum wage; they are against doubling the minimum wage. A raise of 10 to 20% should not have a devastating effect on the economy or the businesses that employ these workers, doubling the minimum wage to $15 per hour will.

Most minimum wage earners are young workers just getting started in the workplace. They are not supporting households and families. A raise of the magnitude suggested would force many of these young people out of a job. It would also drive many businesses into bankruptcy. It would have its worst affects felt by small independent and privately owned businesses that don’t have the ability to absorb these additional costs.

This would also have a ripple effect throughout the labor market. Workers who presently make $10 to $15 per hour would demand more money to keep ahead of those making minimum wage. As their wages increased those above them would demand more, etc… This would put a burden on all businesses, not just those who currently employ minimum wage earners. As wages increase, the demand for labor will decrease and unemployment will increase. This is economics 101.
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Dec 11, 2013
 
JusticeDefiled13501 wrote:
The problem is not that people are against raising the minimum wage; they are against doubling the minimum wage. A raise of 10 to 20% should not have a devastating effect on the economy or the businesses that employ these workers, doubling the minimum wage to $15 per hour will.
Most minimum wage earners are young workers just getting started in the workplace. They are not supporting households and families. A raise of the magnitude suggested would force many of these young people out of a job. It would also drive many businesses into bankruptcy. It would have its worst affects felt by small independent and privately owned businesses that don’t have the ability to absorb these additional costs.
This would also have a ripple effect throughout the labor market. Workers who presently make $10 to $15 per hour would demand more money to keep ahead of those making minimum wage. As their wages increased those above them would demand more, etc… This would put a burden on all businesses, not just those who currently employ minimum wage earners. As wages increase, the demand for labor will decrease and unemployment will increase. This is economics 101.
"Economics 101" should tell you that the $15.00/hour is just a starting point for negotiation. I'm sure that they would be happy with $10.00. Apparently you don't do much deal making.
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Jan 8, 2014
 
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The world is designed to weed out the weak an less intelligent or the system would be consumed by the weak like it has become.
Lower the min wage to 3.10 an allow them to die off, then the elderly can take the part time jobs giving better service to the consumer then what they must deal with now due to the lowlifes in place. Stop welfare.
For those who have struggled to pay their bills still working two jobs, for those who had their nest egg emptied out due to illness, for those who sacrifice to give their children an opportunity they never had, I weep. I weep to hear a heartless person like you who has never known what true fear is. Fear that you are not making enough to feed your children, fear that you will not have a home to house your children, fear that everything can crumble from one minute to the next. I have lived a long time. I have had had little and I have had plenty. I know both sides, and I know that there are those who work hard with little to show for it. I know that some of the blame falls on the greedy employers who do not care that their employees suffer. Our job as humans is to care about the suffering around us. I say, give them a leg up, not a hand out, but make sure we are part of the solution without hatred and bigotry. You will not understand until you face the same fate. With a person like you, it is not a question of "if", it is a question of "when".

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Saddenedbycruelty wrote:
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For those who have struggled to pay their bills still working two jobs, for those who had their nest egg emptied out due to illness, for those who sacrifice to give their children an opportunity they never had, I weep. I weep to hear a heartless person like you who has never known what true fear is. Fear that you are not making enough to feed your children, fear that you will not have a home to house your children, fear that everything can crumble from one minute to the next. I have lived a long time. I have had had little and I have had plenty. I know both sides, and I know that there are those who work hard with little to show for it. I know that some of the blame falls on the greedy employers who do not care that their employees suffer. Our job as humans is to care about the suffering around us. I say, give them a leg up, not a hand out, but make sure we are part of the solution without hatred and bigotry. You will not understand until you face the same fate. With a person like you, it is not a question of "if", it is a question of "when".
I agree with most of what you’ve said. However, fear is a great motivator. One of our problems today is that the government has become a safety net to such an extent that people do not fear failure. They know that the government will take care of them if they cannot or will not do it for themselves. Generations past knew that if they couldn’t take care of their families, their families starved. This motivated them to do whatever was needed to put food on the table. There are many today that will not work because they don’t need to work. There are also many that grew up in the “entitlement generation” that believe it is society’s job to take care of them; that they should be reward based on who they are and not what they do. They think that it is the job of those who “have” to take care of those who “have not”. Pay should not be based on need but on performance. We do not live in a society that rewards people just because they played the game. Everyone does not deserve a trophy. There are plenty of people who need to be helped. It is our job to help those who can’t help themselves. It is not our job to help those who will not help themselves. Minimum wage was put in place to help workers get a leg up in the workplace. It was not intended to be a “living wage”. Most minimum wage earners are not supporting families. They are young workers just starting out in life. I realize that there are people who are trying to survive on these jobs. My advice to them is to hone their work skills and look for better paying employment. I know it isn’t easy but nobody said life would be easy.

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