Backman's Stormwater Plan

Backman's Stormwater Plan

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CCNH

Pulaski, NY

#1 Sep 7, 2013
According to Don Backman's website he has a plan to keep NH high and dry:
MS4-despite the fact that it's posted on the Official Town Website and a public hearing is held every year to adopt it, Backman plans to "educate" all us idiots who don't know what it means. You'll have to pick a time when you can attend one of Don's lectures, you'll have to sign in, listen to the lecture (without falling asleep), take a test and sign an affidavit that you stayed for the entire education process in order to get credit.
Inventory of creekside properties-if you live along the creek you will be forced to sign an easement (giving up a part of your property) without compensation, for the town to come in and maintain the portion of the creek that borders your property. if you refuse the town will just take that easement by eminent domain.
Even if you give the easement, once again you will be "educated" as to proper creek maintenance and failure on your part to live up to your duties, you will be fined by the codes department (fines to be used to subsidize the library)
And all you developers out there-well listen here, cause if you think for one minute after you have all your engineering and development plans reviewed and approved by town planning, county planning, the DEC and my Aunt Ginny, that the town is going to turn around and issue you a permit, well you better think again!! Supervisor Backman will have none of that development (tax base expansion) going on in his town!! How dare you even think-you arrogant, rich, out-of-town developer!!!
I'm so flustered over the thought of the last paragraph, that I can't even go on..........
Underwater on RBL

Pulaski, NY

#2 Sep 7, 2013
Hey Don-does your plan include Royal Brook Lane?

My bad-I forget you don't get out of the first ward.
Underwater in Chadwicks

Whitesboro, NY

#3 Sep 7, 2013
Don Backman's storm Water Plan from his website:

There are several areas in our town that suffer stormwater damage repeatedly. If we are to correct these problems, a plan needs to be drafted detailing the problems, how they are proposed to be handled and a timeline associated with each project.

I don't claim to have all the answers but I have a pretty good idea of where to start:

1: Bring back the stormwater committee. Investigate, assess, rate and prioritize problem areas in town. Report to the town board monthly with findings and recommended action. Appoint members as soon as possible.

2: Expand public education as per the MS4 storm water law requirement. Educate and inform property owners along creeks and waterways how to remove branches and debris on their property; assist them as able and needed. Hold instructional seminars in affected areas. Follow up periodically with inspections of waterways.

3: Freeze the issuance of building permits in developments with continual serious problems until adequate stormwater remediation is in place by the developer.

4: Enforce MS4 regulations on new development. Codes officer or engineering consultant (currently B&L) report to the town board monthly on MS4 violations or potential SW problems created by development.

5: Inventory of all creeks, streams, waterways and watersheds. Identify adjacent landowners. Ask landowners to sign a maintenance easement with the town. Compile list of existing and needed easements and assign town attorney to report to board a list of easements we should consider taking in high-priority areas.

6: Investigate grant money through NYS-EFS and other agencies for stabilizing Sauquoit creek.

I promise to work on improving stormwater infrastructure in the town and will propose a line-item addition to our budget with an annual dollar amount to specifically address stormwater.

I'm certain there are other good ideas out there on how to get a handle on stormwater and I am willing to listen to every one of them.
Thank you.
Underwater on RBL

Pulaski, NY

#4 Sep 7, 2013
Underwater in Chadwicks wrote:
Don Backman's storm Water Plan from his website:
There are several areas in our town that suffer stormwater damage repeatedly. If we are to correct these problems, a plan needs to be drafted detailing the problems, how they are proposed to be handled and a timeline associated with each project.
I don't claim to have all the answers but I have a pretty good idea of where to start:
1: Bring back the stormwater committee. Investigate, assess, rate and prioritize problem areas in town. Report to the town board monthly with findings and recommended action. Appoint members as soon as possible.
2: Expand public education as per the MS4 storm water law requirement. Educate and inform property owners along creeks and waterways how to remove branches and debris on their property; assist them as able and needed. Hold instructional seminars in affected areas. Follow up periodically with inspections of waterways.
3: Freeze the issuance of building permits in developments with continual serious problems until adequate stormwater remediation is in place by the developer.
4: Enforce MS4 regulations on new development. Codes officer or engineering consultant (currently B&L) report to the town board monthly on MS4 violations or potential SW problems created by development.
5: Inventory of all creeks, streams, waterways and watersheds. Identify adjacent landowners. Ask landowners to sign a maintenance easement with the town. Compile list of existing and needed easements and assign town attorney to report to board a list of easements we should consider taking in high-priority areas.
6: Investigate grant money through NYS-EFS and other agencies for stabilizing Sauquoit creek.
I promise to work on improving stormwater infrastructure in the town and will propose a line-item addition to our budget with an annual dollar amount to specifically address stormwater.
I'm certain there are other good ideas out there on how to get a handle on stormwater and I am willing to listen to every one of them.
Thank you.
According to Don Backman's website he has a plan to keep NH high and dry:

MS4-despite the fact that it's posted on the Official Town Website and a public hearing is held every year to adopt it, Backman plans to "educate" all us idiots who don't know what it means. You'll have to pick a time when you can attend one of Don's lectures, you'll have to sign in, listen to the lecture (without falling asleep), take a test and sign an affidavit that you stayed for the entire education process in order to get credit.

Inventory of creekside properties-if you live along the creek you will be forced to sign an easement (giving up a part of your property) without compensation, for the town to come in and maintain the portion of the creek that borders your property. if you refuse the town will just take that easement by eminent domain.
Even if you give the easement, once again you will be "educated" as to proper creek maintenance and failure on your part to live up to your duties, you will be fined by the codes department (fines to be used to subsidize the library)

And all you developers out there-well listen here, cause if you think for one minute after you have all your engineering and development plans reviewed and approved by town planning, county planning, the DEC and my Aunt Ginny, that the town is going to turn around and issue you a permit, well you better think again!! Supervisor Backman will have none of that development (tax base expansion) going on in his town!! How dare you even think-you arrogant, rich, out-of-town developer!!!

I'm so flustered over the thought of the last paragraph, that I can't even go on..........
Seriously

Pulaski, NY

#6 Sep 7, 2013
All sounds so nice!! Totally without substance.

Get a grip Don-your plan is nothing new and pure lip-service.

Why doesn't your plan have some specifics and some teeth? For instance:

"I plan on building berms on the properties bordering the creeks in these specific areas (Chadwicks, Washington Mills, Willowvale, NYM); This will cost XXXX dollars which I intend to raise by _____ or transfer from ______." Or

"I plan on digging in the creek at ______locations and putting in underground pipes so the creek can be covered in those areas thereby alleviating the flooding and this will cost $______." Or

"I plan on installing rain gardens/retaining pools at locations X Y & Z at a cost of $_________"

What you call a plan is nothing more than alot of talk about alot of nothing.

The MS4 is what it is-no amount of regurgitating it is going to stop the flooding if you don't do something in the creeks.

Grant money- already being done by Rick Sherman & the Sauquoit Creek Basin Commission. If you don't have any concrete plan to spend it-you ain't gonna get it.

C'mon Don-

do you really think we're all that ignorant?
NYM Resident

Pulaski, NY

#7 Sep 7, 2013
What's your plan in NYM Don? Since NYM has it's own MS4 which trumps the towns with regard to property located in the Village?

C'mon Don----What are you going to do in NYM?
WFD

United States

#8 Sep 7, 2013
NYM Resident wrote:
What's your plan in NYM Don? Since NYM has it's own MS4 which trumps the towns with regard to property located in the Village?
C'mon Don----What are you going to do in NYM?
He's gonna make sure you contribute to my service award
Underwater in Chadwicks

Whitesboro, NY

#9 Sep 7, 2013
Its obvious from your response you have never experienced the significant emotional event of having your home flooded and then have to deal with a town supervisor who is more focused on helping out of town millionaires instead of helping New Hartford residents deal with this annual tragedy.

Right now we have a back log of storm water projects and not enough money to do them all, at least that is what Tyksinski tells us. If that'a true, why didn't use that $600,000 on us to protect our homes? What good does that road do for us? Provide access to the Hampton Inn? Why don't even get the tax dollars from the Hampton since Tyksinksi worked out a deal where Adler doesn't even have to pay property taxes on his hotel. Typical Tyksinski, leaves NH taxpayers underwater and broke. Its over and my neighbors and I can't wait until September 10th!
Still waiting on RBL

United States

#10 Sep 7, 2013
Underwater in Chadwicks wrote:
Its obvious from your response you have never experienced the significant emotional event of having your home flooded and then have to deal with a town supervisor who is more focused on helping out of town millionaires instead of helping New Hartford residents deal with this annual tragedy.
Right now we have a back log of storm water projects and not enough money to do them all, at least that is what Tyksinski tells us. If that'a true, why didn't use that $600,000 on us to protect our homes? What good does that road do for us? Provide access to the Hampton Inn? Why don't even get the tax dollars from the Hampton since Tyksinksi worked out a deal where Adler doesn't even have to pay property taxes on his hotel. Typical Tyksinski, leaves NH taxpayers underwater and broke. Its over and my neighbors and I can't wait until September 10th!
Ah but I have had flooding at my home and I'm not stupid enough to believe that reviewing the MS4 is going to stop the flooding that's already occurring. Nor is reinstating the storm water committee.

Tell me what Don is going to do to stop the flooding now and how much is it going to cost?
Underwater in Chadwicks

Whitesboro, NY

#11 Sep 7, 2013
Don Backman's storm Water Plan from his website:

There are several areas in our town that suffer stormwater damage repeatedly. If we are to correct these problems, a plan needs to be drafted detailing the problems, how they are proposed to be handled and a timeline associated with each project.

I don't claim to have all the answers but I have a pretty good idea of where to start:

1: Bring back the stormwater committee. Investigate, assess, rate and prioritize problem areas in town. Report to the town board monthly with findings and recommended action. Appoint members as soon as possible.

2: Expand public education as per the MS4 storm water law requirement. Educate and inform property owners along creeks and waterways how to remove branches and debris on their property; assist them as able and needed. Hold instructional seminars in affected areas. Follow up periodically with inspections of waterways.

3: Freeze the issuance of building permits in developments with continual serious problems until adequate stormwater remediation is in place by the developer.

4: Enforce MS4 regulations on new development. Codes officer or engineering consultant (currently B&L) report to the town board monthly on MS4 violations or potential SW problems created by development.

5: Inventory of all creeks, streams, waterways and watersheds. Identify adjacent landowners. Ask landowners to sign a maintenance easement with the town. Compile list of existing and needed easements and assign town attorney to report to board a list of easements we should consider taking in high-priority areas.

6: Investigate grant money through NYS-EFS and other agencies for stabilizing Sauquoit creek.

I promise to work on improving stormwater infrastructure in the town and will propose a line-item addition to our budget with an annual dollar amount to specifically address stormwater.

I'm certain there are other good ideas out there on how to get a handle on stormwater and I am willing to listen to every one of them.
Thank you.
Keep on posting

United States

#12 Sep 7, 2013
You can post an infinite number-still don't make it a plan ;)
digging hole

Newington, CT

#13 Sep 7, 2013
His only plan is to use the water to take a bath in.

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