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#10525 Apr 11, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go! The collectivist! Should we start up communes again? They failed like Obama’s socialist policies.
“It's also a matter of self-interest. Children will grow up some day and some of us would prefer they be healthy, happy, educated, and productive adults.” How does you taking care of MY children a matter of self interest?
The nuclear family has a very successful track record… The Socialist collective thing dies over and over and over because of ignorant people like you.
You getting closer to admitting the truth about yourself… Socialist!
Spoken like a true "dildo-head." Or is it "ditto-head." I get it. Public education is an attack on "FREEDOM!" Wanting to make sure we don't have starving children means you are a "SOCIALIST!" Thinking that sick children should be treated by doctors means you hate "LIBERTY!" Fortunately for the vast majority of sane people in this country, your radical, right-wing, dystopian vision of America is rejected. Sorry, there will be fewer starving and sick, suffering children for you to gloat about.

Oh, and you really don't see why having healthy, happy, and productive adults in this country isn't in my self-interest?

God, you are even dumber than I thought. And that's saying something.

Level 7

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#10526 Apr 11, 2013
Mike Jones wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're a collectivist that supports the 2nd amendment like the "Oathkeepers" you are a terrorist. If you are a collectivist who supports redistribution of wealth you are a humanitarian get it?
I think I've been pretty clear in what I believe in. I believe in Social Security, Medicare, the GI Bill, student loans and grants for poor and middle class kids, unemployment insurance for those out of work, public education, and the sensible regulation of work places and industries so as to keep workers, consumers, and the population safe. All because these things make the lives of Americans immeasurably better.

People have this bizarre delusional that "capitalism" is this divinely conceived system, handed down in all of it's perfection from God Himself. "And on the 8th day, He Created the Free Market System!" It's a fantasy. Capitalism is a construct of man and is as imperfect as man himself. Most of what right-wing loons perceive as "free market capitalism" is in reality nothing more than a system mixed with basic free market principals and government intervention. To put it another way, guys like you love certain government actions involving the "free market" so long as it suits your ideological prejudices. When it doesn't, you label it "collectivism" or "socialism" or some other insipid moniker.

Rather than argue a particular policy on its merits, you guys trot out these trite labels which are transparent in their hollowness. You and your intellectual brother "Respect" can streamline your posts: YOU = "FREEDOM!" OTHERS = "NOT=FREEDOM!"

It would save you a lot of effort.

Oh, the Oathkeepers seem a bit paranoid to me.
Liar Michelle

United States

#10527 Apr 12, 2013
She was me and I was her except she is dead and I am a LIAR.

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10528 Apr 12, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like a true "dildo-head." Or is it "ditto-head." I get it. Public education is an attack on "FREEDOM!" Wanting to make sure we don't have starving children means you are a "SOCIALIST!" Thinking that sick children should be treated by doctors means you hate "LIBERTY!" Fortunately for the vast majority of sane people in this country, your radical, right-wing, dystopian vision of America is rejected. Sorry, there will be fewer starving and sick, suffering children for you to gloat about.
Oh, and you really don't see why having healthy, happy, and productive adults in this country isn't in my self-interest?
God, you are even dumber than I thought. And that's saying something.
So you’re saying the whole of America can government can take care of your kids better than you? Raise your kids and feed them better than you? The government can instill deep moral values better than you?
Let’s say the government grew your kids up better that you, and they are now “healthy, happy, and productive adults”, is your self-interest met? Do you receive what you need from your government raised kids?
Thousands upon thousands of IDIVIDUAL Americans have DIED to preserve LIBERTY for ALL… NOT for government to take care of all.
To answer you is regards to education: Public education is NOT an attack on freedom but the teacher’s unions are. You are a socialist because you don’t take it upon yourself to feed starving children, you desire GOVERNMENT to force everyone to feed starving children. Government controlled healthcare means you HATE liberty because the individual has NO choice but to pay and get only the healthcare that GOVERNMENT provides… You’re a socialist and it doesn’t work even you state it’s so… Right?
We need to invest more in education? Washington DC spends the MOST on kids’ education and achieves the worst results in the Country. More Food stamps are being passed out than ever, and there are still hungry children. OBAMACARE is causing insurance rates to double (which government said it would force costs down) and forcing more Americans to pay higher taxes. So if the government does such a great job then why these results?
Truly you are a sad socialist with no thought about the real issues. I bet you’re excited about GUN CONTROL as well? Banning guns so bad guys can buy and use them instead of honest law abiding citizens…

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10529 Apr 12, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I've been pretty clear in what I believe in. I believe in Social Security, Medicare, the GI Bill, student loans and grants for poor and middle class kids, unemployment insurance for those out of work, public education, and the sensible regulation of work places and industries so as to keep workers, consumers, and the population safe. All because these things make the lives of Americans immeasurably better.
People have this bizarre delusional that "capitalism" is this divinely conceived system, handed down in all of it's perfection from God Himself. "And on the 8th day, He Created the Free Market System!" It's a fantasy. Capitalism is a construct of man and is as imperfect as man himself. Most of what right-wing loons perceive as "free market capitalism" is in reality nothing more than a system mixed with basic free market principals and government intervention. To put it another way, guys like you love certain government actions involving the "free market" so long as it suits your ideological prejudices. When it doesn't, you label it "collectivism" or "socialism" or some other insipid moniker.
Rather than argue a particular policy on its merits, you guys trot out these trite labels which are transparent in their hollowness. You and your intellectual brother "Respect" can streamline your posts: YOU = "FREEDOM!" OTHERS = "NOT=FREEDOM!"
It would save you a lot of effort.
Oh, the Oathkeepers seem a bit paranoid to me.
There never has been nor ever will be a TRUE “FREE MARKET” in America. However, limited government is the BEST for a capitalist system to grow and thrive. Over regulations has done more harm than good. OBAMACARE is the best example of this and it’s not even full blown in affect. You trust government more than you do the American people, thus you desire their liberty removed.

Pick your policy and I’ll show you the failing merits.
Ben Gleck

Utica, NY

#10530 Apr 12, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
There never has been nor ever will be a TRUE “FREE MARKET” in America. However, limited government is the BEST for a capitalist system to grow and thrive. Over regulations has done more harm than good. OBAMACARE is the best example of this and it’s not even full blown in affect. You trust government more than you do the American people, thus you desire their liberty removed.
Pick your policy and I’ll show you the failing merits.
"The Republican party is raw evil, unbridled greed and ignorance, smothered in ribbons and balloons." Frank Zappa
He must have been talking to a stooge like you as he came to this conclusion.
Ben Gleck

Cicero, NY

#10531 Apr 12, 2013
The Democrat party is the party of SLAVERY.
The Democrats party is full of sexual perverts, rapists and liars.

The Democrat party is the party that is for killing babies. You don't get any more evil than that.
Ben Gleck

United States

#10532 Apr 12, 2013
I will continue to support the genocide of babies as long as I get my welfare check. My generation and party will go down in history as the most evil savages in history.
Ben Gleck

United States

#10533 Apr 12, 2013
Obama releases his tax return and he pays LESS than the middle class.

Level 7

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#10534 Apr 12, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
So you’re saying the whole of America can government can take care of your kids better than you? Raise your kids and feed them better than you? The government can instill deep moral values better than you?
The above is as far as I got through your moronic post. It is so insipid, it almost is hard to fathom. It does not resemble anything that I wrote. That's why having any discussion with you is pointless. You're either a complete f.cking moron incapable of understanding basic English, or you're a deranged ideological loon who sees everything through these extreme, radical, moronic, prisms. I'm guessing it's both. Saying that we should make sure that the nation's children do not starve to death in your twisted, fanatical brain is the same as saying the government can "take care of my kids" better than me. Sure.

What a f.cking douche. And a stupid one at that.

Level 7

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#10535 Apr 12, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
There never has been nor ever will be a TRUE “FREE MARKET” in America. However, limited government is the BEST for a capitalist system to grow and thrive. Over regulations has done more harm than good. OBAMACARE is the best example of this and it’s not even full blown in affect. You trust government more than you do the American people, thus you desire their liberty removed.
Pick your policy and I’ll show you the failing merits.
Mercury levels in drinking water. Please explain how government regulations making it unlawful to dump mercury in drinking water is "failing on its merits."

Or how about laws making it illegal for 8 year old boys to work in West Virginia coal mines is an example of government policy "failing on its merits." Is child labor your definition of "LIBERTY!" You f.cking dope.

Level 5

Since: Nov 10

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#10536 Apr 12, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Oa9temz_CxwXX
You hold this belief don't you?
So, some fat, drug addled sociopath on the A.M radio brings up what a perfectly sensible woman who teaches at Princeton, BTW, says about society's responsibility towards children, and all you dim witted Ditto heads get your shorts in a knot? How funny is that? Yes I DO! agree with what she said. I don't agree with how fat asz Limbaugh distorts her words for idiots like you. Doesn't the fact that he calls you "Ditto heads" give you a clue that you're being played? Are you really this stupid? You spend all your time trying to figure out who is a card carrying Commie. But, all your proving is that you're a card carrying imbecile. Of course we must all care for children, regardless of who they are. It's called empathy you douche bag. Something that the Republicans have turned into a dirty word. It's also something that makes us Humans and not crocodiles. My God you're stupid!

Level 7

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#10537 Apr 12, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>So, some fat, drug addled sociopath on the A.M radio brings up what a perfectly sensible woman who teaches at Princeton, BTW, says about society's responsibility towards children, and all you dim witted Ditto heads get your shorts in a knot? How funny is that? Yes I DO! agree with what she said. I don't agree with how fat asz Limbaugh distorts her words for idiots like you. Doesn't the fact that he calls you "Ditto heads" give you a clue that you're being played? Are you really this stupid? You spend all your time trying to figure out who is a card carrying Commie. But, all your proving is that you're a card carrying imbecile. Of course we must all care for children, regardless of who they are. It's called empathy you douche bag. Something that the Republicans have turned into a dirty word. It's also something that makes us Humans and not crocodiles. My God you're stupid!
Wait, you have compassion for your neighbor's children? Why do you hate "FREEDOM!"?
Mike Jones

Sauquoit, NY

#10538 Apr 13, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I've been pretty clear in what I believe in. I believe in Social Security, Medicare, the GI Bill, student loans and grants for poor and middle class kids, unemployment insurance for those out of work, public education, and the sensible regulation of work places and industries so as to keep workers, consumers, and the population safe. All because these things make the lives of Americans immeasurably better.
People have this bizarre delusional that "capitalism" is this divinely conceived system, handed down in all of it's perfection from God Himself. "And on the 8th day, He Created the Free Market System!" It's a fantasy. Capitalism is a construct of man and is as imperfect as man himself. Most of what right-wing loons perceive as "free market capitalism" is in reality nothing more than a system mixed with basic free market principals and government intervention. To put it another way, guys like you love certain government actions involving the "free market" so long as it suits your ideological prejudices. When it doesn't, you label it "collectivism" or "socialism" or some other insipid moniker.
Rather than argue a particular policy on its merits, you guys trot out these trite labels which are transparent in their hollowness. You and your intellectual brother "Respect" can streamline your posts: YOU = "FREEDOM!" OTHERS = "NOT=FREEDOM!"
It would save you a lot of effort.
Oh, the Oathkeepers seem a bit paranoid to me.
I agree with you that the oathkeepers seem a little paranoid, however they took an oath that they intend to keep. Kudos to them for having convictions, that does not give the DHS the right to monitor them for exercising the rights provided to them in the Consitution. My point is if you're not on the side of government we are reaching a point where you are instantly demonized. Not only by the left but by the right as well. The main message coming out of Washington is aceept and obey.

I agree with most of your above points and that Social Security is not an affront to liberty. We are FORCED to pay into it, which I'm not a fan of, however Social Security surpluses being used to cover our deficits is an affront to liberty. In the business world that is called comingling of funds and is a punishable offense. When you have a government that is put in a position of becoming a "ruling class" and NOT of, for, and by, the people you are starting down a slippery slope. That is where we find ourselves today. Giving the government more control is not the answer. Also limiting the choices of those who can manage their own retirement funds is not liberty either. Liberty is all about choices, not some term that should just be used for the sake of its use. We need to give more choices to people so they can choose how to run their own lives. It is not my right to tell you how to live and vice versa.

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10539 Apr 13, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>"The Republican party is raw evil, unbridled greed and ignorance, smothered in ribbons and balloons." Frank Zappa
He must have been talking to a stooge like you as he came to this conclusion.
The words of a drug induced, kind of musician, means something to you? That explains a lot about you. How many glasses did you have when posting this?

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10540 Apr 13, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
<quoted text>
The above is as far as I got through your moronic post. It is so insipid, it almost is hard to fathom. It does not resemble anything that I wrote. That's why having any discussion with you is pointless. You're either a complete f.cking moron incapable of understanding basic English, or you're a deranged ideological loon who sees everything through these extreme, radical, moronic, prisms. I'm guessing it's both. Saying that we should make sure that the nation's children do not starve to death in your twisted, fanatical brain is the same as saying the government can "take care of my kids" better than me. Sure.
What a f.cking douche. And a stupid one at that.
No matter how many names you call me doesn’t change the FACT you favor GOVERNMENT over liberty. You favor Government as primary charity, rather than YOU taking care of the poor yourself. I believe government can take care of YOUR children better that you can. These are what you advocate!

The language you use, isn’t english, nor is it intelligent, thoughtful, and is certainly hatful and demeaning.

Compassion comes from within YOU, not from government, nor from you charging government to TAKE from Americans and do what YOU can’t do on your own.

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10541 Apr 13, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
<quoted text>
Mercury levels in drinking water. Please explain how government regulations making it unlawful to dump mercury in drinking water is "failing on its merits."
Or how about laws making it illegal for 8 year old boys to work in West Virginia coal mines is an example of government policy "failing on its merits." Is child labor your definition of "LIBERTY!" You f.cking dope.
“Mercury levels in drinking water. Please explain how government regulations making it unlawful to dump mercury in drinking water is "failing on its merits."” One policy passed over one hundred years ago is logical... And successful.

“Or how about laws making it illegal for 8 year old boys to work in West Virginia coal mines is an example of government policy "failing on its merits."” Again, an old policy that was in fact SUCCESSFUL... I agree! Let repeal all the regulations back to the time when those laws were made. Agreed?

You and gleck don’t even comprehend real definitions... You have to redefine them to force your Socialist agenda.

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10542 Apr 13, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>So, some fat, drug addled sociopath on the A.M radio brings up what a perfectly sensible woman who teaches at Princeton, BTW, says about society's responsibility towards children, and all you dim witted Ditto heads get your shorts in a knot? How funny is that? Yes I DO! agree with what she said. I don't agree with how fat asz Limbaugh distorts her words for idiots like you. Doesn't the fact that he calls you "Ditto heads" give you a clue that you're being played? Are you really this stupid? You spend all your time trying to figure out who is a card carrying Commie. But, all your proving is that you're a card carrying imbecile. Of course we must all care for children, regardless of who they are. It's called empathy you douche bag. Something that the Republicans have turned into a dirty word. It's also something that makes us Humans and not crocodiles. My God you're stupid!
Apparently I know the commies (YOU and DIG) and the fact you agree with that woman proves it. Children belong to the collective (STATE) and not their parents in your eyes. That is what makes you a disgrace and pitiful. The fact the you NOW refuse the oath you took as a marine is ABSOLUTELY disgraceful!

Level 6

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#10543 Apr 13, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait, you have compassion for your neighbor's children? Why do you hate "FREEDOM!"?
Why don’t you help your neighbors' children instead of asking the government to do it for you, affectively removing Freedom?
Obama cheated on taxes

New Hartford, NY

#10544 Apr 13, 2013
CheapO Obama did NOT pay his fair share of taxes. Obama is a hypocrite.

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