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#9960 Feb 19, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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No names, just an observable truth… It’s sad I even have to explain it to you:
Mostly you’re afraid of freedom, and my guess is you’re mostly afraid of others having freedoms not necessarily your own. You are afraid you direct you hate towards me. Your afraid of helping people on your own, without government stealing from American wage earners. Mostly you’re afraid of the truth about yourself.
As for me being afraid… I am afraid there are a lot more Americans like you than I would have thought… More Americans like you who hate rich Americans, so they charge government to steal from the rich to make the FEEL better. There are Americans like you who go through public schools and learn very little about our constitution, our rights, our liberties, and the cry about how more government is the answer. People like you who don’t look at history or economics or politics as a tool to understand a better path but twist and manipulate it to push their socialist agenda.
However, because I’m afraid there are many people like you, who want America and her Constitution destroyed for the “better of the overall welfare” of Americans, I am not fearful of you. I will stand and defend the Constitution, and her values against you and anyone else that cares to break her down.
Be free, but freedom does not come from government.
How many times do I have to tell you. I don't hate rich people. One of my favorite people is Warren Buffet. he's a great American. So is Bill gates in my opinion. They have dedicated their lives and fortunes to helping others. If you knew anything about history you would know that Under Eisenhower the top 5% were taxed at ninety %. Reagan got it lowered to around seventy. It's been lowered since then to about 35 I believe. Between Eisenhower and Reagan America grew the greatest middle class in the history of the world. You need to understand that if you are making 100 million a year and you are taxed at fifty% you still have fifty million to play with. that is enough to support thousands of people. I love free enter[rize. but, with fair rules. You have been hoodwinked by Glenn Beck and Rush limbaugh. i have absolutely no doubt that those two will be seen historically as the biggest dirt bags this country has ever seen. And their followers as the biggest fools. My position on the topics that we have been discussing are the same as the Supreme court, the majority of Americans, esteemed economists, and everyone else with any intelligence.. Did you miss the election in November? America has spoken. That must really freak your puny little right wing brain right out. As I've stated before, I volunteered for the Marines and risked my life to fight communism. You're nothing but a phony Bible thumping, Glenn beck stooge. I piss on your world view.

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#9961 Feb 19, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>That guy spends every waking minute talking to himself on Topix. Blathering about "leeches" and lurid homoerotic fantasies. I just hope no one ever lets him handle a gun.
I doubt he would be smart enough to be able to load it.

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#9962 Feb 19, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe they're afraid they will turn out like you.
LOL! Nice!

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#9963 Feb 19, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>And you know all this about me, how? I have spent a life time helping those less fortunate than me. And as for calling people "cowards" That's easy to do while hiding behind a computer screen. You're just like the rest of the chicken hawks that dominate your party. Always ready to send others off to fight your ill conceived, unesessary wars. And yet never willing to do the fighting and dying yourself. How about those nasty little neo cons lying their way into a war with Iraq. They all ducked military service when it was their time to go. BTW your holiness, before Social Security was implemented the majority of Americans lived out their later years in utter destitution. And the right wing a-holes raised a huge stink about that, saying it was "Un American" , Communistic" etc. The same thing happened when Medicaid was voted in, inter racial marriage, women's rights, the civil rights act of 64. Bozos like you were always on the wrong side of history. And so are you. You can sling that right wing garbage at me all day long. I served my country in combat, worked hard all my life, and am not in the least jealous of anyone. Certainly not of a mindless little pip squeak like you. Now have a nice day. And how about getting a little work done for a change. If you keep jerkin off at your computer it will be you applying for food stamps.
He embraces "Jesus" as an excuse to advocate public policy which is cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society. Pretty demented, isn't it?

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#9964 Feb 19, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
No names, just an observable truth… It’s sad I even have to explain it to you:
Mostly you’re afraid of freedom, and my guess is you’re mostly afraid of others having freedoms not necessarily your own. You are afraid you direct you hate towards me. Your afraid of helping people on your own, without government stealing from American wage earners. Mostly you’re afraid of the truth about yourself.
As for me being afraid… I am afraid there are a lot more Americans like you than I would have thought… More Americans like you who hate rich Americans, so they charge government to steal from the rich to make the FEEL better. There are Americans like you who go through public schools and learn very little about our constitution, our rights, our liberties, and the cry about how more government is the answer. People like you who don’t look at history or economics or politics as a tool to understand a better path but twist and manipulate it to push their socialist agenda.
However, because I’m afraid there are many people like you, who want America and her Constitution destroyed for the “better of the overall welfare” of Americans, I am not fearful of you. I will stand and defend the Constitution, and her values against you and anyone else that cares to break her down.
Be free, but freedom does not come from government.
What a bunch of idiotic drivel. You realize, genius, that the government has the power to levy taxes? So any taxation of the "rich" you so dutifully serve cannot be "stealing." You understand that, right?

LOL

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#9965 Feb 19, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>How many times do I have to tell you. I don't hate rich people. One of my favorite people is Warren Buffet. he's a great American. So is Bill gates in my opinion. They have dedicated their lives and fortunes to helping others. If you knew anything about history you would know that Under Eisenhower the top 5% were taxed at ninety %. Reagan got it lowered to around seventy. It's been lowered since then to about 35 I believe. Between Eisenhower and Reagan America grew the greatest middle class in the history of the world. You need to understand that if you are making 100 million a year and you are taxed at fifty% you still have fifty million to play with. that is enough to support thousands of people. I love free enter[rize. but, with fair rules. You have been hoodwinked by Glenn Beck and Rush limbaugh. i have absolutely no doubt that those two will be seen historically as the biggest dirt bags this country has ever seen. And their followers as the biggest fools. My position on the topics that we have been discussing are the same as the Supreme court, the majority of Americans, esteemed economists, and everyone else with any intelligence.. Did you miss the election in November? America has spoken. That must really freak your puny little right wing brain right out. As I've stated before, I volunteered for the Marines and risked my life to fight communism. You're nothing but a phony Bible thumping, Glenn beck stooge. I piss on your world view.
Like I said... You have a fear of freedom.

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#9966 Feb 19, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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What a bunch of idiotic drivel. You realize, genius, that the government has the power to levy taxes? So any taxation of the "rich" you so dutifully serve cannot be "stealing." You understand that, right?
LOL
I understand. But do you understand the reason for the amendment to levy taxes? I'll give you a hint... It wasn't for high waste government programs that cause America to go broke.

You're afraid of liberty as well.

Don't think that Americans can't and won't push an amendment to repeal the 16th amendment (and it can be done) because of our government's OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING of our earnings.

You understand that Americans have liberty WITHOUT government.

Oh yes, you're scared.

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#9967 Feb 19, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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He embraces "Jesus" as an excuse to advocate public policy which is cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society. Pretty demented, isn't it?
Jesus is my God. Man causes "cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society". POWERFUL GOVERNMENTS,especially secular ones with no moral answer, cause "cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society"...

That's life, pal, and your idea that government is the answer is demented, sad,and effectivlly removes American liberies. I know... you don't care... Egalitarianism is you goal.

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#9968 Feb 19, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is my God. Man causes "cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society". POWERFUL GOVERNMENTS,especially secular ones with no moral answer, cause "cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society"...
That's life, pal, and your idea that government is the answer is demented, sad,and effectivlly removes American liberies. I know... you don't care... Egalitarianism is you goal.
Men all right. Men like you. You embrace "Jesus" as an excuse to advocate public policy which is cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society. I hope you're proud of yourself.

John Lennon was right.

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#9969 Feb 19, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand. But do you understand the reason for the amendment to levy taxes? I'll give you a hint... It wasn't for high waste government programs that cause America to go broke.
You're afraid of liberty as well.
Don't think that Americans can't and won't push an amendment to repeal the 16th amendment (and it can be done) because of our government's OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING of our earnings.
You understand that Americans have liberty WITHOUT government.
Oh yes, you're scared.
More idiotic, nonsensical drivel.

Who needs air traffic controllers and food inspectors, anyway. We should be free to fly our airplanes and crash them wherever the f.ck we like! LIBERTY!!!!

LMFAO!!!

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#9970 Feb 19, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Egalitarianism is you goal.
You may want to google the definition. The basic principals which underlie our democracy are founded upon equality, dummy. You know, all men being created equal.

Good grief.

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#9971 Feb 20, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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Men all right. Men like you. You embrace "Jesus" as an excuse to advocate public policy which is cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society. I hope you're proud of yourself.
John Lennon was right.
And there are men like you who embrace government thinking that it will solve the “cruel, hateful, destructive, and causes pain and suffering of millions of people, mostly the most vulnerable in our society.” Instead it removes the American Dream… It removes life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Lennon was the Walrus.

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#9972 Feb 20, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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More idiotic, nonsensical drivel.
Who needs air traffic controllers and food inspectors, anyway. We should be free to fly our airplanes and crash them wherever the f.ck we like! LIBERTY!!!!
LMFAO!!!
You think the government is the ONLY organization that can run “air traffic controllers and food inspectors, anyway.”? That means you’re seriously incapable of critical thought.

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#9973 Feb 20, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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You may want to google the definition. The basic principals which underlie our democracy are founded upon equality, dummy. You know, all men being created equal.
Good grief.
All men are created equal, without government. With liberty men can choose his path. You are not about liberty. You are about removing liberty and replacing with equality… EGALITARIANISM not FREEDOM. You want the government to decide what is equal for its citizens and that’s what’s idiotic about you.

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#9974 Feb 20, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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All men are created equal, without government. With liberty men can choose his path. You are not about liberty. You are about removing liberty and replacing with equality… EGALITARIANISM not FREEDOM. You want the government to decide what is equal for its citizens and that’s what’s idiotic about you.
Clearly you are a graduate of Glenn Beck U. You speak in platitudes. We were the only industrialized nation on Earth that didn't provide health care for it's citizens. Regardless of what your right wing shock jocks have been telling you , some things are much better off in the hands of the government. Over all our health care system was probably the least effective and most costly in the world. Not one nation has ever decided to go back to privatization of health care.Many nations have much higher life expectancy. Canadians live almost three years longer than we do. The French more than four. We are way down on that list. We are the only industrialized nation where if you lose your job, you lose your health care. This is not a selfish opinion for me. My wife is a doctor. So I can get health care if I need it. It's a matter of having compassion. Corporations have been moving operations overseas for years. Leaving millions without access to health care. Now you right wing zombies have the gall to refer to those folks as "leeches". You don't seem to mind the corporate welfare that's been taking place over the last thirty years. Under that system all the wealth unfairly has all wound up in the hands of the top five %. I know this is all to much thinking for a stooge like you. But, you make an interesting sounding board. A useful idiot! It's either you or that nasty little psychotic, name changing brother of yours. If you don't believe that a lot of the animosity directed at Obama is racially motivated, I suggest you scan the other threads on Topix. Those racists are your comrades in stupidity.

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#9975 Feb 20, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly you are a graduate of Glenn Beck U. You speak in platitudes. We were the only industrialized nation on Earth that didn't provide health care for it's citizens. Regardless of what your right wing shock jocks have been telling you , some things are much better off in the hands of the government. Over all our health care system was probably the least effective and most costly in the world. Not one nation has ever decided to go back to privatization of health care.Many nations have much higher life expectancy. Canadians live almost three years longer than we do. The French more than four. We are way down on that list. We are the only industrialized nation where if you lose your job, you lose your health care. This is not a selfish opinion for me. My wife is a doctor. So I can get health care if I need it. It's a matter of having compassion. Corporations have been moving operations overseas for years. Leaving millions without access to health care. Now you right wing zombies have the gall to refer to those folks as "leeches". You don't seem to mind the corporate welfare that's been taking place over the last thirty years. Under that system all the wealth unfairly has all wound up in the hands of the top five %. I know this is all to much thinking for a stooge like you. But, you make an interesting sounding board. A useful idiot! It's either you or that nasty little psychotic, name changing brother of yours. If you don't believe that a lot of the animosity directed at Obama is racially motivated, I suggest you scan the other threads on Topix. Those racists are your comrades in stupidity.
Clearly your ideals you that of a leftist liberal, where you spew the same thing over and over hoping the ignorant will follow you to a utopian socialist society. History and even nations like Greece, Spain and yes FRANCE are starting to fall into ruin because of their socialist structure, yet that’s what you advocate, while ignoring our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.
Liberty is for every American and you can’t stand that… Liberty is what makes this Country great, yet, people like you choose to give it all to government and force the rest of us to come with you.
You sir are a leftist zombie who can’t do for himself and needs a government to follow like a drone. Go north or go to France. But if you value liberty then just stay.

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#9976 Feb 20, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Clearly your ideals you that of a leftist liberal, where you spew the same thing over and over hoping the ignorant will follow you to a utopian socialist society. History and even nations like Greece, Spain and yes FRANCE are starting to fall into ruin because of their socialist structure, yet that’s what you advocate, while ignoring our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.
Liberty is for every American and you can’t stand that… Liberty is what makes this Country great, yet, people like you choose to give it all to government and force the rest of us to come with you.
You sir are a leftist zombie who can’t do for himself and needs a government to follow like a drone. Go north or go to France. But if you value liberty then just stay.
Maybe if you would reread and edit your posts you wouldn't sound like such a moron. Yes some western European countries are having e\serious economic troubles. And it's true that too much socialism can be very stupid and unsustainable. Canada BTW is doing very well. Of course the right wing propaganda machine will never mention that. Nor will they mention sweden or other social democracies that are thriving, while we argue over the stupidest dogma. Look you have been living in a social democracy your whole life. Social security isn't going away, nor is the F.D.A, or the F.A.A., or public education. And if they did you wouldn't have to worry about a leftist hell. You would be living in a capitalist hell. You only see things in black and white. That's because you are intellectually challenged. Which makes you a great candidate for Christian fundamentalism or right wing bullsh#t. Liberty isd a nice word. But, what does it mean? Should we be allowed to drive our cars 100 mph? Should we be free to piss in someone's soup and sell it? Should we bring back child labor? Should we be allowed to pollute lakes and rivers? Do you think the private sector will somehow control these things? If you had your way we would be back in the 1890s. Life expectancy was less than fifty. And everyone except the robber barons lived horrible lives. Do you think those people working in swat shops and dying terrible deaths at forty were experiencing freedom? Have you ever visited a country without a strong central government? Somalia is nice this time of year. And everyone is carrying an assault rifle. And strangely it's not too safe.

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#9977 Feb 20, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe if you would reread and edit your posts you wouldn't sound like such a moron. Yes some western European countries are having e\serious economic troubles. And it's true that too much socialism can be very stupid and unsustainable. Canada BTW is doing very well. Of course the right wing propaganda machine will never mention that. Nor will they mention sweden or other social democracies that are thriving, while we argue over the stupidest dogma. Look you have been living in a social democracy your whole life. Social security isn't going away, nor is the F.D.A, or the F.A.A., or public education. And if they did you wouldn't have to worry about a leftist hell. You would be living in a capitalist hell. You only see things in black and white. That's because you are intellectually challenged. Which makes you a great candidate for Christian fundamentalism or right wing bullsh#t. Liberty isd a nice word. But, what does it mean? Should we be allowed to drive our cars 100 mph? Should we be free to piss in someone's soup and sell it? Should we bring back child labor? Should we be allowed to pollute lakes and rivers? Do you think the private sector will somehow control these things? If you had your way we would be back in the 1890s. Life expectancy was less than fifty. And everyone except the robber barons lived horrible lives. Do you think those people working in swat shops and dying terrible deaths at forty were experiencing freedom? Have you ever visited a country without a strong central government? Somalia is nice this time of year. And everyone is carrying an assault rifle. And strangely it's not too safe.
You continued insults do nothing to change the fact the you ignore our Constitution and liberties of which we SHOULD be guaranteed. The fact that you argue AGAINST liberty with arguments like,“Should we be allowed to drive our cars 100 mph? Should we be free to piss in someone's soup and sell it? Should we bring back child labor? Should we be allowed to pollute lakes and rivers? Do you think the private sector will somehow control these things?” shows you don’t think at all.
Keep it up… Maybe you will succeed in crushing liberty and the American Dream.
Mike Jones

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#9978 Feb 20, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly you are a graduate of Glenn Beck U. You speak in platitudes. We were the only industrialized nation on Earth that didn't provide health care for it's citizens. Regardless of what your right wing shock jocks have been telling you , some things are much better off in the hands of the government. Over all our health care system was probably the least effective and most costly in the world. Not one nation has ever decided to go back to privatization of health care.Many nations have much higher life expectancy. Canadians live almost three years longer than we do. The French more than four. We are way down on that list. We are the only industrialized nation where if you lose your job, you lose your health care. This is not a selfish opinion for me. My wife is a doctor. So I can get health care if I need it. It's a matter of having compassion. Corporations have been moving operations overseas for years. Leaving millions without access to health care. Now you right wing zombies have the gall to refer to those folks as "leeches". You don't seem to mind the corporate welfare that's been taking place over the last thirty years. Under that system all the wealth unfairly has all wound up in the hands of the top five %. I know this is all to much thinking for a stooge like you. But, you make an interesting sounding board. A useful idiot! It's either you or that nasty little psychotic, name changing brother of yours. If you don't believe that a lot of the animosity directed at Obama is racially motivated, I suggest you scan the other threads on Topix. Those racists are your comrades in stupidity.
Please explain where my healthcare comes from? We don't get healthcare here now. We have to purchase health insurance. How is that providing healthcare? We are obviously both the only nation that didn't provide healthcare for it's citizens, and the dumbest of the bunch. All the other nations the healthcare is free, or paid for by tax dollars, so technically not free. We got neither here. Explain how we benefit from this?

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#9979 Feb 20, 2013
Mike Jones wrote:
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Please explain where my healthcare comes from? We don't get healthcare here now. We have to purchase health insurance. How is that providing healthcare? We are obviously both the only nation that didn't provide healthcare for it's citizens, and the dumbest of the bunch. All the other nations the healthcare is free, or paid for by tax dollars, so technically not free. We got neither here. Explain how we benefit from this?
Who said it was "free?" Of course it is paid for in tax dollars in these other countries. But, people don't mind because they are actually getting something for their money. The truth is the private sector has been doing a terrible job with health care here. It costs a fraction, in other countries, of what we pay here. Everyone gets care and almost no one wants it put back in the private sector. Our old system was choking the economy, and leaving millions out in the cold. the people hurt worst are the working poor. Obama's plan is an attempt to help those folks. Will it work? How the hell do I know. But, I don't believe it's some kind of nefarious socialist takeover. The right wing is lost in it's own bullsh#t. And they won't win an election till they get their heads out of their aszes.

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