created by: Joe Friday | Feb 27, 2010

Utica, NY

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Kim Simon Murder

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  • Will Never Be Solved
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  • 1980s Cops & DA Incompetent
  • Day Of Judgment Approaching
  • Justice Delayed=Justice Denied
  • You Can Run But Can't Hide
  • AMW Will Have No Effect
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old timer

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#163
Mar 14, 2010
 
is this allison the one that lived across the street from nugents on corner of oswego and frances st in west utica.
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#164
Mar 14, 2010
 
ok, most of you people dont know what your talking about. the initials are right. the girl they are looking for is Anne. if you watched and payed attention last night you would have heard that. they all were tough guys back in the day, including her. now you got 5 men who p*ssy out and a girl who can tell the truth (that was supposedly a friend of Kims) and she wont say anything. to LE you dumb sh*ts for not catching on 24 years ago when Kims parents were still recieving calles and letters after Barnes was put away. these guys are going to die off one by one. one down 4 to go. wonder who is next. as far as the guy with bert and ernie.. if you knew him you would get why he has the bazarr tatoos that he has.
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New York, NY

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#165
Mar 14, 2010
 
OK... so for all the inconciderate ones on topix. I can't believe I am lowering myself to this loser site, however I know a few people on her starting much trouble w/ olive boy....One already killed someone and the other is loosing her kids, but lets throw stones shall we. You should take into concideration that olive boy or MM has two beautiful children. Both old enough to use computers and who have read most of the shit on here. So let the poe poe do their job and you will all see who did it. Or maybe we will never know who did it. So unless you have facts!! Shut your face for the sake of his kids.
Thank you for your cooperation!
rocker

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#166
Mar 14, 2010
 
justasking wrote:
On AMW last night, they just about said that the cop who testified lied on the stand. Again, who was this cop? Who was he related to (because that's how it works around here)? Was he related to one of the real killers. Who squashed the investigation? How far did the conspiracy go up? These are serious questions that in my mind need to be answered. It's unbelievable that even these local police could have botched the investigation so badly, it HAD to be a conspiracy to protect one of their own kids.
JG father was a cop!
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#167
Mar 14, 2010
 
Notfrom there wrote:
I watched the show last night, and that aroused my curiousity as well.
If it were a conspiracy though, I believe that it was between the cop and someone who was there that night - and not necessarily the murderer. The others in the precinct (court and community) may have just gone along with what the cop said he witnessed since they respected him and/or had no reason to doubt him at the time. He could have also been paid to say what he said - giving more credence to the "mob" theory that another poster mentioned.
So while I agree there was a conspiracy - I don't believe that it was as large a conspiracy as you believe it to be.
Also - the prison "informant" - it was revealed that he may have(?) been there that night and therefore deliberately lied to help seal the awful fate of Barnes. What was he in jail for?... and for how long? If he were serving a long prison sentence (and not the murderer)- it would have been in his best interest to "bargain" with the investigators for what he knows in exchange for a lesser charge and to shorten his then sentence. In other words, was he indeed covering his own tracks by falsely fingering someone else OR was he in fact PAID to say what he did?
the prison informant was related to someone...I can't remember what they said last night, will have to review it. As far as a "smaller" conspiricy, you could be right but consider this. Rotundo was Chief, Capecelatro was defense attorney (and some say he thought the killer was a relative of someone who had power). DelBuono, partner also might have some recollection regarding this matter. If someone lied under oath and they are not dead, they should be prosecuted.
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#168
Mar 14, 2010
 
could this anne be short for leanne
justasking

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#169
Mar 14, 2010
 
rocker wrote:
<quoted text>JG father was a cop!
who is JG? we have to start making the connections here, if we are wrong we can't be as wrong as putting someone in jail for 20+ years and if we talk about it publicly it can't be covered up any longer. Why is Barnes acting like these cops and the DA are his best friends? Doesn't he realize that if this injustice was perpetrated against him that it is also happening to others.
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#170
Mar 14, 2010
 
REALLY wrote:
OK... so for all the inconciderate ones on topix. I can't believe I am lowering myself to this loser site, however I know a few people on her starting much trouble w/ olive boy....One already killed someone and the other is loosing her kids, but lets throw stones shall we. You should take into concideration that olive boy or MM has two beautiful children. Both old enough to use computers and who have read most of the shit on here. So let the poe poe do their job and you will all see who did it. Or maybe we will never know who did it. So unless you have facts!! Shut your face for the sake of his kids.
Thank you for your cooperation!
Mr. and Mrs. Simon also had a beautiful daughter and they have the right after all these years to get justice and to know the truth, no matter where it leads.
R U KIDDING

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#171
Mar 14, 2010
 
REALLY wrote:
OK... so for all the inconciderate ones on topix. I can't believe I am lowering myself to this loser site, however I know a few people on her starting much trouble w/ olive boy....One already killed someone and the other is loosing her kids, but lets throw stones shall we. You should take into concideration that olive boy or MM has two beautiful children. Both old enough to use computers and who have read most of the shit on here. So let the poe poe do their job and you will all see who did it. Or maybe we will never know who did it. So unless you have facts!! Shut your face for the sake of his kids. Now lets just start with the facts, yes he does have kids that he has nothing to do with 1 moved out of state the other is way to yong to use a computer. No one is saying anything about children on here they are just stateing what they know or what they think they know, so please no pitty for the trash, he must have gotten to you but in time you will see, the rose colored glasses will come off when he smacks them off your face and chokes you too.
Thank you for your cooperation!
Now lets just start with the facts, yes he does have kids that he has nothing to do with 1 moved out of state the other is way to yong to use a computer. No one is saying anything about children on here they are just stateing what they know or what they think they know, so please no pitty for the trash, he must have gotten to you but in time you will see, the rose colored glasses will come off when he smacks them off your face and chokes you too.
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#172
Mar 14, 2010
 
does anyone remember seeing (fairly recently ) occult symbols on the East coast Olive Oil company bldg near the DPW? I'd say within the last couple of years, they may have been removed now..interesting?

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Geneva, NY

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#173
Mar 14, 2010
 
The jailhouse informant was the ever-popular Robert Stolo:

http://www.google.com/search...

AMW stated that the informant was a member of the 'five'(if you watch the episode online, it is mentioned just before the 37:00 mark).
wonder

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#174
Mar 14, 2010
 
Wonder if "Anne" is a fictional name to protect her and her family?
I thought JG father was previous superintendent of new hartford schools
So what is MM (or the others)has grown children reading this??? they need to know what evil lurks in their family. If they are reading this i would hope they would drop an anonymous tip to the LE on anything they over heard over the yrs
Wonder if any of their teenage kids are girls?
Notfrom there

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#175
Mar 14, 2010
 
justasking wrote:
<quoted text>the prison informant was related to someone...
tks for the info.

I find it very hard to understand how all these years could have gone by - and NO ONE said anything. If the precinct was involved in a coverup - it could be that they were involved in illegal activity with the relative of the murderer(s).

DNA testing was first used in England - they took samples from EVERYONE in the town to find the murderer - which they did.

Are we no longer allowed to do this? It would be great to take samples of ALL that are under suspicion - as well as the cop who lied.

MAYBE this "Satanic Cult" is another coverup deflecting once again the blame.
Utica

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#176
Mar 14, 2010
 
Ollie, do you have Kim's obituary from 1985? You seam to be able to come up with everything...Just curious, I feel so bad for her family. I would like to learn more about her. I hope they capture these scumbags! What are they waiting for? Their has to be other information they are withholding. You can get DNA results in weeks.
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#177
Mar 14, 2010
 
Ollie Tercucci wrote:
The jailhouse informant was the ever-popular Robert Stolo:
http://www.google.com/search...
AMW stated that the informant was a member of the 'five'(if you watch the episode online, it is mentioned just before the 37:00 mark).
Yes - I remember that also now.
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#178
Mar 14, 2010
 
Notfrom there wrote:
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tks for the info.
I find it very hard to understand how all these years could have gone by - and NO ONE said anything. If the precinct was involved in a coverup - it could be that they were involved in illegal activity with the relative of the murderer(s).
DNA testing was first used in England - they took samples from EVERYONE in the town to find the murderer - which they did.
Are we no longer allowed to do this? It would be great to take samples of ALL that are under suspicion - as well as the cop who lied.
MAYBE this "Satanic Cult" is another coverup deflecting once again the blame.
they didn't say that NO one hasn't said a word over the yrs. People went to police with leads (including Allison Scranton according to this site) BUT since Barnes was in prison -case closed. The police didn't want to hear it
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#179
Mar 14, 2010
 
I found this on Stolo (Ollie tks for the name):

"The state also introduced the testimony of a jailhouse informant, who said Barnes confessed to him while in jail awaiting trial more than two years after the crime. The informant, Robert Stolo, was in custody on forgery and larceny charges. He met Barnes at the jail and they were on the same cell block for about a week. Stolo told the court that he talked with Barnes along with another inmate, who had asked Barnes about some girls and Barnes purportedly asked in return,“You mean the one that I killed?” then corrected himself by saying,“I mean the one that I am accused of killing?” Stolo, however, was housed for that week several cells away from Barnes and couldn’t remember when or where this conversation happened. Stolo testified that he didn’t expect a lighter sentence for his testimony, and that he received a one-year sentence for his conviction."

From the above, and contrary to last night's show, Stolo appears to not be involved at all with the five. My impression is now that Stolo was more self-interested - more for attention perhaps if not for a lighter sentence.
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#180
Mar 14, 2010
 
by the looks of the AMW show it looked like there were 3 other girls (besides Kim). One sitting next to Kim in the reinactment and the 2 girls that approached the party.
One is supposedly Allison Scranton. Who are the other 2 girls? The one next to Kim and the one with Allison? who did Allison hang out with
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#181
Mar 14, 2010
 
hmmm I just googled more on Stolo - he's an ex-Vietnam Vet - not likely therefore to be hanging out with HS punks.

He also was an informant it says prior for 3x murderer John Koberstein ....

Stolo has nothing to do with this case I think except as a distraction.
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#182
Mar 14, 2010
 
wonder wrote:
by the looks of the AMW show it looked like there were 3 other girls (besides Kim). One sitting next to Kim in the reinactment and the 2 girls that approached the party.
One is supposedly Allison Scranton. Who are the other 2 girls? The one next to Kim and the one with Allison? who did Allison hang out with
This is what I meant by all these people - one girl had the decency to say something - not the other two? I'm finding that hard to believe being a woman myself.

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