American Legion got suspensions correct

American Legion got suspensions correct

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Ted Williams

Herkimer, NY

#1 Nov 27, 2013
Glad to see the penalties will be paid by those involved. Home plate umpire should never be allowed to officiate another Am Leg game.
cmon

Utica, NY

#2 Nov 29, 2013
Ted Williams wrote:
Glad to see the penalties will be paid by those involved. Home plate umpire should never be allowed to officiate another Am Leg game.
Agreed... Both teams are appealing but national will never overturn the state level decision. State got it right... There is no room got that kind if nonsense in American Legion baseball.
Home plate umpire is the laughing stock of the umpires anyhow...only gets games cause he sucks up
Really

Herkimer, NY

#3 Nov 29, 2013
cmon wrote:
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Agreed... Both teams are appealing but national will never overturn the state level decision. State got it right... There is no room got that kind if nonsense in American Legion baseball.
Home plate umpire is the laughing stock of the umpires anyhow...only gets games cause he sucks up
Yeah, that umpire sucks up, and just plain sucks.
kev

Ithaca, NY

#4 Nov 29, 2013
Umpire is a piece of shitz, I agree.
Frank

Harpursville, NY

#5 Nov 29, 2013
Blame the umpire for the malicious act of the two Whites town brothers malicious act.. Your crazy . Those kids are responsible for their actions not the ump. After the ump threw him out of the game HD ran back on field and punched the batter. Don't enable those kids by making excuses for their actions. They ruined it for a lot of innocent kids who are being punished
Really

Herkimer, NY

#6 Nov 29, 2013
Frank wrote:
Blame the umpire for the malicious act of the two Whites town brothers malicious act.. Your crazy . Those kids are responsible for their actions not the ump. After the ump threw him out of the game HD ran back on field and punched the batter. Don't enable those kids by making excuses for their actions. They ruined it for a lot of innocent kids who are being punished
Your reply completely ignores the umpire's primary responsibility; to maintain order and safety of participants. He failed miserably. The whole incident was preventable if he acted in a timely manner before it escalated.
Go back to some other thread that you might comprehend:)
cmon

Utica, NY

#7 Nov 29, 2013
Frank wrote:
Blame the umpire for the malicious act of the two Whites town brothers malicious act.. Your crazy . Those kids are responsible for their actions not the ump. After the ump threw him out of the game HD ran back on field and punched the batter. Don't enable those kids by making excuses for their actions. They ruined it for a lot of innocent kids who are being punished
U are a moron. The home plate umpire controls the whole game. As soon as the game starts the umpires are responsible for the safety of all the participants. In this case the umpires failed miserably.... All they had to do is bring both coaches and their captains to the plate when they felt the game was getting out of hand and squash the whole thing. Instead they did nothing and this is what happened. The umpires are either incompetent because they didn't know what was going on cause they were too busy worrying about how long the game was going to last or they weren't man enough to step up and control the situation.
In any event, there should be sanctions on the umpires as well.
well

Clinton, NY

#8 Nov 29, 2013
Really wrote:
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Your reply completely ignores the umpire's primary responsibility; to maintain order and safety of participants. He failed miserably. The whole incident was preventable if he acted in a timely manner before it escalated.
Go back to some other thread that you might comprehend:)
It's obvious that you have a beef with a particular ump so anything you say has no credibility here. Does anyone really think the players or parents for that matter would have listened to the ump? No, they would not have. The coaches should have stepped in sooner but didn't so they are getting what they deserve.
randall

Utica, NY

#9 Nov 29, 2013
well wrote:
<quoted text>It's obvious that you have a beef with a particular ump so anything you say has no credibility here. Does anyone really think the players or parents for that matter would have listened to the ump? No, they would not have. The coaches should have stepped in sooner but didn't so they are getting what they deserve.
The home plate umpire shouldn't have been on the game.... He stinks and just calls strikes and outs cause he wants get the game over. Ya ever see him on the bases??? Every close call is out.... Never safe. Keeps track of the score and inning, constantly looking at his watch trying to speed up the game, hurrying kids. He has been pushed along by the whiteys crew... One of the worst umps getting good games, who at know, who ya blow
pathetic

Utica, NY

#10 Nov 29, 2013
Still to this day not one whitestown coach,parent,or player thinks the 2 brothers did anything wrong.The kids were losing to NH 9 to 1 in the 8th inning. Those kids committed malicious acts punching and kicking people because they were losing period. Im from whitestown and let me tell you its not the first time for those kids. They committed a selfish act and ruined it for a lot of good kids. Cmon blaming the ump for their behavior is an outrage to every kid who ever played that game.
saw it

Whitesboro, NY

#11 Nov 29, 2013
Saw it from them for years also. They should be thrown out of all sports period!!! They act violent, like big tough guys, just cause they have some size. Well, imo, they arent very good either. Those kids could not be controlled by any parent or coach since minor league, an ump is going to control them now? c'mon!!!!!!!
i was there

Utica, NY

#12 Nov 29, 2013
pathetic wrote:
Still to this day not one whitestown coach,parent,or player thinks the 2 brothers did anything wrong.The kids were losing to NH 9 to 1 in the 8th inning. Those kids committed malicious acts punching and kicking people because they were losing period. Im from whitestown and let me tell you its not the first time for those kids. They committed a selfish act and ruined it for a lot of good kids. Cmon blaming the ump for their behavior is an outrage to every kid who ever played that game.
I was there. My view:
Whitestown parents should be ashamed of themselves for breaking the nh kids balls. They threw un-needed gas on the fire. Parkinson's old man is a douchebag.
Coaches should be ashamed they didn't nip the shit in the bud. Paul is notorious for letting his kids do what they want.
Umpires didn't do there job controlling the game.
Stewart kids are 2 spoiled rotten brats. Parents should be ashamed they let them act like that in public.
Plenty of blame to go around here and state legions decision to suspend and disqualify was spot on!
Really

Herkimer, NY

#13 Nov 29, 2013
pathetic wrote:
Still to this day not one whitestown coach,parent,or player thinks the 2 brothers did anything wrong.The kids were losing to NH 9 to 1 in the 8th inning. Those kids committed malicious acts punching and kicking people because they were losing period. Im from whitestown and let me tell you its not the first time for those kids. They committed a selfish act and ruined it for a lot of good kids. Cmon blaming the ump for their behavior is an outrage to every kid who ever played that game.
Pathetic is truly your response. If the umpires controlled the game it would not have been allowed to escalate. The suspensions are spot on, with the exception of no mention of the umpire shoddy job.
Brother

Lowville, NY

#14 Nov 29, 2013
Who was behind the plate umpire
i was there

Utica, NY

#15 Nov 29, 2013
Sal Barbero plate and art Williams bases
vinny

Clinton, MA

#16 Nov 29, 2013
Really wrote:
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Pathetic is truly your response. If the umpires controlled the game it would not have been allowed to escalate. The suspensions are spot on, with the exception of no mention of the umpire shoddy job.
You must be one of the people who thinks the Knockout thing going on in big cities is OK. You can't rationalize with people who condone bad behavior, Its a way of life. The game was over 9 to 1 in 8th inning. There's is nothing NH batter could of possibly said to warrant the two brothers to maliciously attack him like they did. The home plate ump put in his report it was whites towns fault. It just doesnt matter at this point , Because you will never ever convince those kids ,Their parents or friends that they were wrong. They don't care that they destroyed numerous kids on both teams legion careers . There has not been or will ever be any remorse from those kids ! They are proud of their behavior . Very sad
True

Clinton, MA

#17 Nov 29, 2013
i was there wrote:
Sal Barbero plate and art Williams bases
Let's get something straight.Whitestown was giving the home plate ump trouble in afternoon game againstrd Fort Schuyler . It didn't matter who the umpires were. When their losing their kids and some parents act like Aholes. They accomplished what they wanted to. They couldn't win so ruin it for NH. This has been verified by other teams. There's at least 14 umpires who said they are the worst behaved team in legion and HS baseball. Again I believe they must be proud of it.
Really

Herkimer, NY

#18 Nov 30, 2013
well wrote:
<quoted text>It's obvious that you have a beef with a particular ump so anything you say has no credibility here. Does anyone really think the players or parents for that matter would have listened to the ump? No, they would not have. The coaches should have stepped in sooner but didn't so they are getting what they deserve.
Obvious? I don't know the umpire from a hill of beans. But, if the umpire put a stop to the trash talk by both teams it would not have escalated. If you knew anything about sports, you would know that the umpire lost control of the game and he deserves suspension every bit as much as the kids who will sit out. Now, don't make a fool of yourself.
i was there

Utica, NY

#19 Nov 30, 2013
True wrote:
<quoted text>Let's get something straight.Whitestown was giving the home plate ump trouble in afternoon game againstrd Fort Schuyler . It didn't matter who the umpires were. When their losing their kids and some parents act like Aholes. They accomplished what they wanted to. They couldn't win so ruin it for NH. This has been verified by other teams. There's at least 14 umpires who said they are the worst behaved team in legion and HS baseball. Again I believe they must be proud of it.
Barbero is a shit umpire..... That's been verified by every hs and legion coaching staff. He gets games cause he sucks up to Lon and the whiteys crew.
You think that would have happened if gaiser was on the game??? Nope cause he pays attention, unlike "I call everybody out and want the game to get over as fast as possible" sal Barbero
Tommy

Clinton, MA

#20 Nov 30, 2013
i was there wrote:
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Barbero is a shit umpire..... That's been verified by every hs and legion coaching staff. He gets games cause he sucks up to Lon and the whiteys crew.
You think that would have happened if gaiser was on the game??? Nope cause he pays attention, unlike "I call everybody out and want the game to get over as fast as possible" sal Barbero
I agree that ump might not be very good and a lot of other umps. But those two brothers were way and I mean way over the top with those malicious acts. Its not like the game was close or during a big play. Cmon they have a history

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