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Yot

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#56
Jun 12, 2013
 
Think this will REALLY hit the local media tomorrow?
Truth

Utica, NY

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#57
Jun 12, 2013
 
Yot wrote:
Think this will REALLY hit the local media tomorrow?
The vote by the AHL board of governors is tomorrow. So yes.
UticaHockey

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#58
Jun 12, 2013
 
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The vote by the AHL board of governors is tomorrow. So yes.
The Vancouver media tomorrow for sure. The local media? It might depend on if the fish are biting then John Pitarresi at the OD might be too busy to cover it......sorry I just had to.
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Since: Jul 12

Bristol, CT

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#59
Jun 12, 2013
 
Whitesboro Unemployment 7 wrote:
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Not smoking anything. They managed to build all new locker rooms and an exercise room without anyone knowing about it. The stage area will be built up. Luxury suites added. The upper bowl will have narrower seating.
building a exercise room and new locker rooms dosnt require extensive changes to the building itself. the building for hockey holds just under 4000, and your saying they can add 3000 seats on the stage end and in suites?? i cant see it in the foot print this building has without extensive changes at the stage end or raising the roof which would require the building be shut down. the aud in my opinion does need more seating to attract better acts. most bands and shows wont bother with this small arena.i can see 5000, maybe 5500 in the foot print the aud has. the upper bowl seat are already narrow.. they did that when the blue seats were installed.
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#60
Jun 12, 2013
 
I still don't see how you can significantly add seats to the Aud. The only area available for expansion is the stage end. If there is a way to do it I would love to see the drawings.
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Since: Jul 12

Berlin, CT

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#62
Jun 13, 2013
 
Whitesboro Unemployment 7 wrote:
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You will. The stage end has a lot of wasted space. Kiss some walls goodbye there. Expect narrower seats in the upper parts, some boxes, and if attendance is right....well let's just say the skies the limit. Lol
there is alot of wasted space at the stage end. if they totally eliminate the stage and those columns then yes there is alot of room for seating.they have 2.25 million, but that wont go far....idk how much narrower the upper seats can get, i cant imagine they are going to replace them all again...
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#63
Jun 13, 2013
 
Before getting WAAYYYY off on a tagent, can I just ask "WHY" we need 7,000 seats at the Aud in the first place?
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#66
Jun 13, 2013
 
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I certainly do applaud ALL of this wishful thinking with respect to having an AHL team in Utica.
BUT, how does the Utica area financially support the team? The median household income in Oneida County is $58k and in Herkimer County it's $42k, doesn't leave much extra money to be spent on hockey tickets, which, in the AHL average close $23.00 each. It's a reality.
Dream big, but be aware that wishful thinking is one thing and reality is another
$23? I think you're a "little" over-estimating here; not sure where you got that from. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would doubt that #. There's not a bad seat @ the Aud...sitting in the Top-third would (or should let's say) cost LESS than half that.

Let's just say this was ALL thought about beforehand by ppl higher up than us ... If they're the so-called "smart, educated" ones then they should know more than anyone that $23 wouldn't work - we shall see...
Sogginator

Marcy, NY

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#67
Jun 13, 2013
 
new name is either the Utica Chicken Riggies, Utica Greens, Utica textiles or finally... the Utica septic tankers
Truth

Utica, NY

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#68
Jun 13, 2013
 
Shackleferd wrote:
I certainly do applaud ALL of this wishful thinking with respect to having an AHL team in Utica.
BUT, how does the Utica area financially support the team? The median household income in Oneida County is $58k and in Herkimer County it's $42k, doesn't leave much extra money to be spent on hockey tickets, which, in the AHL average close $23.00 each. It's a reality.
Dream big, but be aware that wishful thinking is one thing and reality is another
The simple answer is the Utica area won't be able to support a team. That's not rocket science. You can look at your memories of the Utica Devils through rose colored glasses if you like but the truth is that toward the end of their run here there was a lot of talk about low attendance and them not making enough moneyy here to stay. They went to Albany because of the deal they got and for the opportunity to make money.

The wildcard here is whether the Canucks worked out a deal with the Aud and local officials that guarantees they won't lose money. From what I've seen and read this kind of agreement is not all that uncommon. This same team, the former Peoria Rivermen, aren't staying in Peoria because the officials in that city decided it wasn't in the best interest of the taxpayers to agree to such a deal. I think they are right.

After the vote today the details should start to trickle out. Watch for any mention of a no loss guarantee and for how much the taxpayers are really on the hook for. The Aud is a New York State public authority. It is not a private business. All debt they incur is actually public debt if they are unable to pay.
UticaHockey

East Hartford, CT

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#69
Jun 13, 2013
 
first let's see what the actual is at 1130then lets not believe all the rumors and we'll see what the facts are
Gail

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Sogginator wrote:
new name is either the Utica Chicken Riggies, Utica Greens, Utica textiles or finally... the Utica septic tankers
They will be called. The Utica Upchucks
Truth

Utica, NY

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#71
Jun 13, 2013
 
UticaHockey wrote:
first let's see what the actual is at 1130then lets not believe all the rumors and we'll see what the facts are
We have to because of the nature of the people involved. Wouldn't you say that if taxpayers are involved in funding this scheme that they should have some advance details and an opportunity to tell their representatives what they think based on facts and not just on speculation?

This whole thing reaks of insider politics from beginning to end.
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I can't wait to see those man and get their manhood in my mouth so daddy can take pics, he has to remain in the shadow cuz hes a coward.
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#75
Jun 13, 2013
 
It's official. Deal was just inked. Hockey returns to the U.
Fairness

Utica, NY

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NYS taxpayers will be receiving their season tickets in the mail. Thank Sen Goofo
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It's a private business venture. You sure do like to make assumptions.
Brindisi and Griffo have already announced $2.25 million for the Aud improvements to accomodate them. Hardly sounds like a private business venture. Sounds like another taxpayer funded venture that will benefit only the chosen, well connected few.

I would have no problem with any of this if it truly was a private business venture funded with private venture capital. It is not.
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New Hartford, NY

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#79
Jun 13, 2013
 
1-year deal?? Yeeeaaaa I'll stick with my investment with the Crunch based on that deal. Sorry guys!
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#80
Jun 13, 2013
 
whitesboro trashiest wrote:
Does anybodtay know what the new hockey team's name is going to be ?
Yes I know and it will suprise a lotta people!
Truth

Utica, NY

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#81
Jun 14, 2013
 
Whitesboro Is A Hole wrote:
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The aid is government owned. The facility needed upgrading.
Upgrading yes, but upgrades tailored specifically to accomodate an AHL team on the taxpayer's bacl - no.

If you were to use a common sense to prioritizing the needs of this region, Aud improvements, expecailly to lure an AHL team, would be far down on the list.

The vote took place yesterday and the move was approved. The silence from local officials speaks volumes about this. If they though they could score some points they would be falling all over themselves to get in front of a microphone.

My guess is that there will be at least one press conference today and we'll be told how this is an investment in the future for this region and how it is one of the keys to an economic turnaround. Heck, all they have to do is pull out the Hotel Utica speech or the Stanley speech or the Utica National speech or the City Center speech or speeches for any one of the other taxpayer funded failures that were supposed to be key to a turnaround. I think they probably have a boilerplate speech with a generic "insert name of taxpayer funded scheme here" line in it.

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