Utica voters approve propositions to ...

Utica voters approve propositions to exclude council members,...

There are 40 comments on the WKTV story from Nov 6, 2012, titled Utica voters approve propositions to exclude council members,.... In it, WKTV reports that:

Utica voters have voted to exclude Members of the city's common council and president, along with part-time city and seasonal employees from receiving health care benefits through the city.

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Oh my

Gouverneur, NY

#1 Nov 7, 2012
Topix says all are excluded, wktv says some pt are excluded, which part timers are not excluded from receiving health care benefits?

Permanent part time and temporary or seasonal and dependents?
Oh my

Gouverneur, NY

#2 Nov 7, 2012
One group part times is not excludable from healthcare.

Which one is it?
Oh my

Gouverneur, NY

#3 Nov 7, 2012
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Permanent part times or temporary, and Not any seasonal
Oh my

Gouverneur, NY

#4 Nov 7, 2012
Not temporary ,

:. Permanent part times
Oh my

Gouverneur, NY

#5 Nov 7, 2012
All part times are excluded unless they are permanent.
Material implications

Gouverneur, NY

#6 Nov 7, 2012
America welcomes its newest Union. A union before all unions. The 'permanent' part-time employee Union. It is illegal to exclude health care from this brand-new but existing group.

Welcome to our country!
independant woman

Ithaca, NY

#7 Nov 7, 2012
Material implications wrote:
America welcomes its newest Union. A union before all unions. The 'permanent' part-time employee Union. It is illegal to exclude health care from this brand-new but existing group.
Welcome to our country!
There is nothing "illegal" about excluding Health Care benefits for part time employees!!!!

Are you forgetting - it is the TAXPAPERS that have been paying the salaries and benefits for these puppets that sit on the Common Council seats for their once a month meetings. The voters made this choice for them as they were not willing to give up these benefits on their own.

Now, let's see how many of them will want to run to get re-elected for a job they no longer can get financial benefits from! Maybe then the right people will want to run, get elected, and start working towards representing the taxpapers - NOT their polictial "boses".
Material implications

Gouverneur, NY

#8 Nov 7, 2012
I'm sure the fellow that wrote the law at justice can clear this up for us.
Constructive dilemma

Gouverneur, NY

#9 Nov 7, 2012
Are there any permanent part timers that are not recieving health care from the city?

If they are receiving healthcare then they are permanent part timers, unless they are seasonal or temporary.
Constructive dilemma

Gouverneur, NY

#10 Nov 7, 2012
If they are seasonal or temporary and they are receiving healthcare, this shall be an unlawful distribution on benefits.

It is illegal to exclude healthcare benefits from part time employees if and only if they are part time employees that qualify as permanent part-time employees.

Hello weed and seed!
Constructive dilemma

Gouverneur, NY

#11 Nov 7, 2012
Who is the weed and seed coordinator superior to any city employee?
independant woman

Ithaca, NY

#12 Nov 7, 2012
Constructive dilemma wrote:
Who is the weed and seed coordinator superior to any city employee?
It is my understanding this position is no longer in effect.

UPD has replaced the Weed and Seed position with one of their own staff members or supporters.
ICOR

Gouverneur, NY

#13 Nov 7, 2012
It would be illegal in any other state to give health care benefits to family members and friends or their dependents for part time work exclusive of civil service classification but for Utica where it is not illegal.
Larry

AOL

#14 Nov 7, 2012
Vescera will now resign.
permaparttimers union

Gouverneur, NY

#15 Nov 7, 2012
The guy that designed the ballot question has deliver'd us what I call:

Scorched Earth

Did the voters understand that this is what they were voting for?

Is it constitutional to allow voters to vote for scorched earth?
RTK

Gouverneur, NY

#16 Nov 7, 2012
Who is the Health Care provider for the corporation of the city of Utica?
Shakespear For Breakfast

Gouverneur, NY

#17 Nov 7, 2012
Since Utica HAS NO MONEY:

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Confused

AOL

#18 Nov 7, 2012
But Palmieri buys a new car and the city is broke.
Shakespear For Breakfast

Gouverneur, NY

#19 Nov 7, 2012
For the Soul of Utica:

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Capita

Gouverneur, NY

#20 Nov 7, 2012
Enriching friends and family at the expense of the city and its taxpayers is treacherous.

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