Rodger Potocki Spews Again
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#22 Nov 24, 2013
hank mills wrote:
@ truth, glad you regurgitated the roles of those elected as TP candidates. i sincerely hope they continue on the same exact path they've chosen and keep Cruz and Palin in the spotlight for as long as possible because:
"Washington (CNN)- A new national poll provides more evidence of the political hit the Republican Party, the tea party movement, and House Speaker John Boehner took over the government shutdown.
According to a CNN/ORC International survey released Tuesday, 64% of Americans say they have an unfavorable view of the GOP, an all-time high dating back to 1992 when CNN first asked the question. Only three in 10 say they hold a favorable view of the party.
Fifty-six percent say they have an unfavorable view of the tea party movement, another record high in CNN polling. Only 28% say they see the 4-year-old grassroots conservative movement in a positive light.
The Democratic Party's 43%-51% favorable/unfavorable ratings are basically unchanged from late last month, just before the start of the shutdown."
Yep the TP is most definitely moving in the right direction and setting new records! LOL
Those ratings are what they are because of political optics. Political optics and reality are two very different things. I've said it before. The left wing of the Democratic party has been wildly successful in painting the Republicans as rich old white guys who could care less about the poor and minorities. This campaign is the envy of any advertising agency and I'm sure that some even study it as a model for success.

The government shutdown is the perfect example. Most Americans believe that it was Republicans who wanted to shut down the government when the exact opposite is true. They didn't want to fund the Affordable Care Act. They passed individual appropriations bills in the House of Representatives that would have kept the entire government running with the exception of "Obamacare". When the bill reached the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would not bring these bills to the floor for a vote. It was Democrats who were willing to shut the government down in order to save the president's signature legislation.

Sequester, same thing. Sequester (automatic budget cuts that were actually not cuts at all, just cuts in the rate of increase) were the president's idea. That law was described initially by the president like this:
"a win for the economy and budget discipline."
and
"strong enforcement mechanism to make all sides come together."

In the end he blamed Republicans and called it the "meat cleaver" approcah to budgeting. We all know which narrative sticks in the mind of most uninformed Americans.
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#23 Nov 24, 2013
hank mills wrote:
@ truth, glad you regurgitated the roles of those elected as TP candidates. i sincerely hope they continue on the same exact path they've chosen and keep Cruz and Palin in the spotlight for as long as possible because:
"Washington (CNN)- A new national poll provides more evidence of the political hit the Republican Party, the tea party movement, and House Speaker John Boehner took over the government shutdown.
According to a CNN/ORC International survey released Tuesday, 64% of Americans say they have an unfavorable view of the GOP, an all-time high dating back to 1992 when CNN first asked the question. Only three in 10 say they hold a favorable view of the party.
Fifty-six percent say they have an unfavorable view of the tea party movement, another record high in CNN polling. Only 28% say they see the 4-year-old grassroots conservative movement in a positive light.
The Democratic Party's 43%-51% favorable/unfavorable ratings are basically unchanged from late last month, just before the start of the shutdown."
Yep the TP is most definitely moving in the right direction and setting new records! LOL
What part of the Tea Party core beliefs that I posted do you disagree with?
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#24 Nov 24, 2013
oxy moron wrote:
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What, do you want me to tell them what the definition of an oxymoron is? I would think that that'd be cold comfort.
The "Affordable Care Act" is turning out to be anything but affordable for many and not providing the care that its' advocates used as their selling points. That would mean that the true definition and reality are the opposite of the name.

Great Depression
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#25 Nov 24, 2013
Rog wrote:
Oh, and is it just a coincidence that the only two examples he names from the "left" are black reverends? I think not. Freudian slip?
Rachel Maddow, Ed Shultz, Keith Olbermann, Dennis Kucinich, Nancy Pelosi, Barbars Boxer, Maxine Waters, Bill Maher, Barbara Striesand, Alec Baldwin, Matt Damon and the list goes on and on......

Happy now?

Do you agree 100% with the political leanings of each and every one of these? Heck, they don't even agree with eachother on many things. The thing they all have in commom though is that they are Democrats that have non-traditional American views about the role of government and how much control the federal government should have in our lives.

No party represents the beliefs of all of its' members 100%. That is true of the Tea Party too. While there are a very small number of racists who attend Tea Party rallies they certainly do not represent all Tea Partiers.

Potocki was wrong in saying there are no racist elements in the Tea Party just as those who paint the hole Tea Party with the same broad brush are wrong to label the Tea Party as racist.
DILLIGAF

Herkimer, NY

#26 Nov 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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What part of the Tea Party core beliefs that I posted do you disagree with?
Tea Party heroes are: Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz. Enough said.
hank mills

Watertown, NY

#27 Nov 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Those ratings are what they are because of political optics. Political optics and reality are two very different things. I've said it before. The left wing of the Democratic party has been wildly successful in painting the Republicans as rich old white guys who could care less about the poor and minorities. This campaign is the envy of any advertising agency and I'm sure that some even study it as a model for success.
The government shutdown is the perfect example. Most Americans believe that it was Republicans who wanted to shut down the government when the exact opposite is true. They didn't want to fund the Affordable Care Act. They passed individual appropriations bills in the House of Representatives that would have kept the entire government running with the exception of "Obamacare". When the bill reached the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would not bring these bills to the floor for a vote. It was Democrats who were willing to shut the government down in order to save the president's signature legislation.
Sequester, same thing. Sequester (automatic budget cuts that were actually not cuts at all, just cuts in the rate of increase) were the president's idea. That law was described initially by the president like this:
"a win for the economy and budget discipline."
and
"strong enforcement mechanism to make all sides come together."
In the end he blamed Republicans and called it the "meat cleaver" approcah to budgeting. We all know which narrative sticks in the mind of most uninformed Americans.

LOL You've got more lame excuses than a kid whose dog ate the homework! Ratings = "political optics"? It's the dems fault the rebubs are recognized for what they are? You blame "uninformed Americans"? Again, you go 'head and hang on tight to those beliefs. They're working so well for YOUR OPPOSITION! Keep ignoring the numbers. Keep condescending. Count me among "most Americans". We're more informed than you'll ever admit and come election time we will emerge victorious AGAIN but you'll say it's "optics". At least you and ol' Rodger can console one another. For years he's been blaming everyone but himself for his repeated political failures. Damned optics! LOL
NY Voter

Charlotte, NC

#28 Nov 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Those ratings are what they are because of political optics. Political optics and reality are two very different things. I've said it before. The left wing of the Democratic party has been wildly successful in painting the Republicans as rich old white guys who could care less about the poor and minorities. This campaign is the envy of any advertising agency and I'm sure that some even study it as a model for success.
The government shutdown is the perfect example. Most Americans believe that it was Republicans who wanted to shut down the government when the exact opposite is true. They didn't want to fund the Affordable Care Act. They passed individual appropriations bills in the House of Representatives that would have kept the entire government running with the exception of "Obamacare". When the bill reached the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would not bring these bills to the floor for a vote. It was Democrats who were willing to shut the government down in order to save the president's signature legislation.
Sequester, same thing. Sequester (automatic budget cuts that were actually not cuts at all, just cuts in the rate of increase) were the president's idea. That law was described initially by the president like this:
"a win for the economy and budget discipline."
and
"strong enforcement mechanism to make all sides come together."
In the end he blamed Republicans and called it the "meat cleaver" approcah to budgeting. We all know which narrative sticks in the mind of most uninformed Americans.
Well said. Oh the American Sheeple and the Liberal media.

The Democratic Party spent a lot of money a few years ago to make sure Brindisi beat Rodger in the Oneida County Executive race, as Rodger actually was making sense and they feared the sheeple might start to listen and actually develop an informed opinion.
BHO

Ithaca, NY

#29 Nov 24, 2013
hank mills wrote:
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LOL You've got more lame excuses than a kid whose dog ate the homework! Ratings = "political optics"? It's the dems fault the rebubs are recognized for what they are? You blame "uninformed Americans"? Again, you go 'head and hang on tight to those beliefs. They're working so well for YOUR OPPOSITION! Keep ignoring the numbers. Keep condescending. Count me among "most Americans". We're more informed than you'll ever admit and come election time we will emerge victorious AGAIN but you'll say it's "optics". At least you and ol' Rodger can console one another. For years he's been blaming everyone but himself for his repeated political failures. Damned optics! LOL
Congress' bad approval numbers are coming from informed Americans. The problem is they're informed by a biased and corrupt media. How else can you explain the President's reelection with such poor economic numbers? Bush 41 was beaten by Clinton with 7% unemployment yet Obama is reelected with unemployment in the high 7's. BTW, we found out this week that the unemployment numbers in 2012 were fudged lower by the administration. I'm sure most Americans don't about that since it probably wasn't reported on the Today show.
Republicrat

Lee Center, NY

#30 Nov 24, 2013
at least roger is a true republican not like pacente who runs in the republican party name only and are leaning with some democrats in thinking and governing. Just see who works and whos family members get county jobs . His assistant is a democrat and some democrat legislators might as well be in the republicrat party. Some democrat big shots work in the so called republican administration. No wonder the chalenge even to hanna is from the conservatives and same for pacenti . You prtobably wont see a democrat chalange . Heres how they operate ,they run as republicans to get that guaranteed farmer,anti Cuomo ,obama vote,then lean to the democrats ideas to get some of the regan democrat votes. That's their formula for a win. Where is their principles.In the toilet I guess.Way to win in this county.
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#31 Nov 25, 2013
DILLIGAF wrote:
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Tea Party heroes are: Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz. Enough said.
No, not "enough said"

You didn't answer the question.

What is it in the core beliefs of the Tea Party that you disagree with? You may disagree with the politics of Palin and Cruz but they are not the Tea Party. They are just members.

Here they are again just so you don't have to go back. What is it you don't agree with:

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.
http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/
better yet

Herkimer, NY

#32 Nov 25, 2013
Truth wrote:
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No, not "enough said"
You didn't answer the question.
What is it in the core beliefs of the Tea Party that you disagree with? You may disagree with the politics of Palin and Cruz but they are not the Tea Party. They are just members.
Here they are again just so you don't have to go back. What is it you don't agree with:
1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.
http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/
Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Roger Potocki. Enough said.
Truth

Utica, NY

#33 Nov 25, 2013
better yet wrote:
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Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Roger Potocki. Enough said.
Great answer. It shows everyone who sees it what kind of intelligence you possess.

It's people like you who are allowing our country to be run into the ground. You refuse to see the forest through the trees and everyone suffers.
Truth

Utica, NY

#34 Nov 25, 2013
better yet wrote:
<quoted text>
Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Roger Potocki. Enough said.
I'm guessing that you are answering like you have because you have no disagreement with the core values of the Tea Party and that until I posted them you were unaware what they were. Now you have no way to back off what you've stated about the Tea Party without seeming foolish and uninformed.
WTF

Utica, NY

#35 Nov 25, 2013
Rodger tells the truth. All the rest of you libtards, GFY.
I know

Herkimer, NY

#36 Nov 25, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm guessing that you are answering like you have because you have no disagreement with the core values of the Tea Party and that until I posted them you were unaware what they were. Now you have no way to back off what you've stated about the Tea Party without seeming foolish and uninformed.
......that the tea party accomplishes nothing. You can state whatever you wish; they are each in it for their own selfish reasons and care nothing about improving our government. Name only one accomplishment of the so called tea party that has improved our government. You can't and you are a follower of a nothing org.
Truth

Utica, NY

#37 Nov 25, 2013
I know wrote:
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......that the tea party accomplishes nothing. You can state whatever you wish; they are each in it for their own selfish reasons and care nothing about improving our government. Name only one accomplishment of the so called tea party that has improved our government. You can't and you are a follower of a nothing org.
That's not true.
If nothing else the Tea Party reminds us that we should think about what's happening to our country and have a conversation about how we feel about that.

For instance, the Tea Party advocates for a return to a government more like what is written in the US Constitution. It's been a very long time since politicians from either side of the aisle have had to answer questions like “Madam Speaker, where specifically does the Constitution grant Congress the authority to enact an individual health insurance mandate?" to which then Speaker Nancy Pelosi answered "“Are you serious? Are you serious?" when she didn't know the answer.

The constitution has been long ignored because following the letter of the law of the land as written would mean that the federal government could never intrude in our lives to the extent they do. The constitution was designed so that the government was to be limited by fear of the people. Somehow with the help of people like FDR the opposite is now true.

The people who attack the Tea Party on a personal level instead of addressing issues are doing us all a disservice. Just like the poster who attacks Tea Party politicians rather than explaining what he/she disagrees with the Tea Party about. You can't just say "Sarah Palin" or "Ted Cruz" as an answer. That just means that one is either unable or unwilling to attack the message so they attack the messenger. Very old tactic but it still works I guess.

Think about this. Ted Cruz filibustered for 21+ hours. Even though he wandered off into "Green Eggs and Ham" land, a conversation was had about the funding and effectiveness of the Affordable Care Act that wouldn't have been had if the appropriation vote he was stalling had been rammed through on a pure partisan vote like the one that passed Obamacare itself. Not one Republican voted for it.
off you go now

Syracuse, NY

#38 Nov 25, 2013
those 15 TP "beliefs" mean nothing as they're stated here. mostly bait for the feeble minded. even those with solutions are all highly arguable and the TP offers no "workable" solutions for any of them. but they would argue that too which is in part why the TP is now held in less regard among Americans than the "occupy" people. it's lunatic extremism at it's worst. it's great to "address issues' but once you know someone's a lunatic it's counter productive. they're just not important anymore. you can't stop to calm every barking mongrel. it's better to give 'em a quick b!tch slap, walk on and ignore. Potocki knows all too well how it feels to be rejected again and again and agin and again.....
off you go now

Syracuse, NY

#39 Nov 25, 2013
better yet wrote:
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Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Roger Potocki. Enough said.
Any 1 of them would be enough!
huffy

Lee Center, NY

#40 Nov 25, 2013
Tea party sara palin retard and ted cruz to bring down American economy just to disagree with a black president ideas the tea party is going nowhere but to actually make more democrats succeed as they split up the republican vote go tea party go tea party

Level 7

Since: May 11

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#41 Nov 25, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Those ratings are what they are because of political optics. Political optics and reality are two very different things. I've said it before. The left wing of the Democratic party has been wildly successful in painting the Republicans as rich old white guys who could care less about the poor and minorities. This campaign is the envy of any advertising agency and I'm sure that some even study it as a model for success.
The government shutdown is the perfect example. Most Americans believe that it was Republicans who wanted to shut down the government when the exact opposite is true. They didn't want to fund the Affordable Care Act. They passed individual appropriations bills in the House of Representatives that would have kept the entire government running with the exception of "Obamacare". When the bill reached the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would not bring these bills to the floor for a vote. It was Democrats who were willing to shut the government down in order to save the president's signature legislation.
Sequester, same thing. Sequester (automatic budget cuts that were actually not cuts at all, just cuts in the rate of increase) were the president's idea. That law was described initially by the president like this:
"a win for the economy and budget discipline."
and
"strong enforcement mechanism to make all sides come together."
In the end he blamed Republicans and called it the "meat cleaver" approcah to budgeting. We all know which narrative sticks in the mind of most uninformed Americans.
Good grief. The reason why people thought Republicans wanted to shut down the government is because a laundry list of Republicans were on record saying......... they wanted to shut down the government.

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