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hank mills

Chittenango, NY

#1 Nov 23, 2013
Doesn't this multi time political loser ever run out of gas? Check his monthly editorial in today's OD where he espouses his love of the Tea Party.

His very first sentence includes "the president and his merry band of left wing, Kool Aid drinkers"... and the letter closes with: "writers who substitute name calling with thought ought to deal with issues not fabrication and insult."

He quotes "a recent study" that describes the Tea Party as "educated, professional and civic minded." So who did that study Rodger? The Tea Party of course!

And the most blatantly false statement of the week goes to Rodger and made me laugh out loud! He actually wrote: "At no time has racism been exhibited by any of the groups." No lie. He actually wrote that!

No need for name calling when it comes to this boy. He's the best advocate for LIBERALISM in Oneida County! LOL
Pataki

Southbridge, MA

#2 Nov 23, 2013
20 Years ago I asked his wife if roger was her father. The response was lIke asking a fat woman if she was pregnant:)
BHO

Utica, NY

#3 Nov 23, 2013
hank mills wrote:
Doesn't this multi time political loser ever run out of gas? Check his monthly editorial in today's OD where he espouses his love of the Tea Party.
His very first sentence includes "the president and his merry band of left wing, Kool Aid drinkers"... and the letter closes with: "writers who substitute name calling with thought ought to deal with issues not fabrication and insult."
He quotes "a recent study" that describes the Tea Party as "educated, professional and civic minded." So who did that study Rodger? The Tea Party of course!
And the most blatantly false statement of the week goes to Rodger and made me laugh out loud! He actually wrote: "At no time has racism been exhibited by any of the groups." No lie. He actually wrote that!
No need for name calling when it comes to this boy. He's the best advocate for LIBERALISM in Oneida County! LOL
Please cite examples of racism from the Tea Party. I'm a little curious since they're branded as racist,but I've yet to see any video of this supposed racist behavior.
True

Schenectady, NY

#4 Nov 23, 2013
His editorial hit the nail on the head. If your educated and can read you get it.
hank mills

Chittenango, NY

#6 Nov 23, 2013
BHO wrote:
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Please cite examples of racism from the Tea Party. I'm a little curious since they're branded as racist,but I've yet to see any video of this supposed racist behavior.
would you also like for me to prove the existence of oxygen? I remember seeing those "Don't Renig" signs on multiple news casts leading up to the last POTUS election.(but they spelled it in an obviously KKK way) You don't have cable? But don't take it from me BHO. After a NAACP resolution focused media attention on the widespread use of racist imagery on signs and banners at Tea Party rallies across the country, Fox News personality Glenn Beck instructed his followers to "leave all signs at home"....but you missed that. Maybe you're too busy to keep informed. When you do get cable go for the DVR.
hank mills

Chittenango, NY

#7 Nov 23, 2013
True wrote:
His editorial hit the nail on the head. If your educated and can read you get it.
Mornin' Mrs Potocki.
Truth

Utica, NY

#8 Nov 23, 2013
hank mills wrote:
Doesn't this multi time political loser ever run out of gas? Check his monthly editorial in today's OD where he espouses his love of the Tea Party.
His very first sentence includes "the president and his merry band of left wing, Kool Aid drinkers"... and the letter closes with: "writers who substitute name calling with thought ought to deal with issues not fabrication and insult."
He quotes "a recent study" that describes the Tea Party as "educated, professional and civic minded." So who did that study Rodger? The Tea Party of course!
And the most blatantly false statement of the week goes to Rodger and made me laugh out loud! He actually wrote: "At no time has racism been exhibited by any of the groups." No lie. He actually wrote that!
No need for name calling when it comes to this boy. He's the best advocate for LIBERALISM in Oneida County! LOL
I don't like or agree with the name calling on either side. I think it's counterproductive.

I don't know if he was referring to the study I saw or not but there is a recent study that was undertaken by a liberal minded Professor of Law and Professor of Psychology form Yale with results that he said surprised and embarrassed him him. It showed that self proclaimed Tea Party members had higher scientific understanding than non-Tea Party people. One of the interesting things he admits is that he doesn't know one Tea Party person and his impression of what a Tea Partier is like comes from cable news.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/87474-yale-pr...

The results don't surprise me. It's been my experience that liberals think on more of an emotional level and conservative people on an intellectual one.

I think the Tea Party is just like the two major parties. You have adherents from across the spectrum. As a liberal Democrat do you accept as true everything said by groups like Code Pink and people like Reverend Sharpton and Reverend Jackson? Does every single commentator on MSNBC represent your point of view? Don't make the mistake of painting the entire Tea Party as racist because of the actions of a tiny minority. Potocki was wrong in saying that there are no racists within the Tea Party but racism is certainly not a core belief of the vast majority of its'members.

The Tea Party has been the victim of extreme media bias coming mostly from the left. It's the old "if you can't attack the message, attack the messenger" tactic. Don't take my word for it. Do your own legwork. Research what the Tea Party stands for and what they stand against. Look at the credentials of people like Ted Cruz who have been painted as "crazies". Make your own decision about what you think of the Tea Party and when you give an opinion be armed with facts to back it up.
True

Fayetteville, NY

#9 Nov 23, 2013
TEA Party stands for taxed enough already. Has nothing to do with race. Your called a racist because your sick of the govt taking your hard earned money and padding govt pensions. Can anyone argue that the govt foment waste money..Not all tea party people are rich..
hank mills

Chittenango, NY

#10 Nov 23, 2013
Truth wrote:
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I don't like or agree with the name calling on either side. I think it's counterproductive.
I don't know if he was referring to the study I saw or not but there is a recent study that was undertaken by a liberal minded Professor of Law and Professor of Psychology form Yale with results that he said surprised and embarrassed him him. It showed that self proclaimed Tea Party members had higher scientific understanding than non-Tea Party people. One of the interesting things he admits is that he doesn't know one Tea Party person and his impression of what a Tea Partier is like comes from cable news.
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/87474-yale-pr...
The results don't surprise me. It's been my experience that liberals think on more of an emotional level and conservative people on an intellectual one.
I think the Tea Party is just like the two major parties. You have adherents from across the spectrum. As a liberal Democrat do you accept as true everything said by groups like Code Pink and people like Reverend Sharpton and Reverend Jackson? Does every single commentator on MSNBC represent your point of view? Don't make the mistake of painting the entire Tea Party as racist because of the actions of a tiny minority. Potocki was wrong in saying that there are no racists within the Tea Party but racism is certainly not a core belief of the vast majority of its'members.
The Tea Party has been the victim of extreme media bias coming mostly from the left. It's the old "if you can't attack the message, attack the messenger" tactic. Don't take my word for it. Do your own legwork. Research what the Tea Party stands for and what they stand against. Look at the credentials of people like Ted Cruz who have been painted as "crazies". Make your own decision about what you think of the Tea Party and when you give an opinion be armed with facts to back it up.
so you see and agree that Potocki speaks in circles when it comes to name calling. Good for you.... and your "experience" re: liberals vs conservatives? I have to laugh. The poor poor "victimized" Tea Party?...guess we "experience" America from extremely opposite perspectives....but you do agree that "Potocki was wrong in saying that there are no racists within the Tea Party..." so you're not yet totally poisoned by the likes of YOUR TV heros. my views are fueled by the documented, actions and actual words of those i criticize or cite. i don't watch MSNBC or FOX. No, not ALL Tea Partiers are racist but from what i've seen they sure as hell cultivate the notion as they never stand against it or reject it when it rears it's ugly head at one of their gatherings. Extremists like Cruz and Palin need no help painting themselves as "crazies". Watching Cruz read Dr. Suess on C-Span was enough for me and Palin's (canceled) reality show was a hoot! LOL ...and didn't she have a gig on FOX News for awhile? What happened?
BHO

Utica, NY

#11 Nov 23, 2013
hank mills wrote:
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would you also like for me to prove the existence of oxygen? I remember seeing those "Don't Renig" signs on multiple news casts leading up to the last POTUS election.(but they spelled it in an obviously KKK way) You don't have cable? But don't take it from me BHO. After a NAACP resolution focused media attention on the widespread use of racist imagery on signs and banners at Tea Party rallies across the country, Fox News personality Glenn Beck instructed his followers to "leave all signs at home"....but you missed that. Maybe you're too busy to keep informed. When you do get cable go for the DVR.
During the debate over the Affordable Care Act (oxymoron), Andrew Breitbart offered $100k for video evidence of Tea Party racism. It was never paid out.
DILLIGAF

Utica, NY

#12 Nov 23, 2013
True wrote:
TEA Party stands for taxed enough already. Has nothing to do with race. Your called a racist because your sick of the govt taking your hard earned money and padding govt pensions. Can anyone argue that the govt foment waste money..Not all tea party people are rich..
Tea Party heros are: Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz. Enough said.
oxy moron

Utica, NY

#13 Nov 23, 2013
You might not approve of the Affordable Care Act, but it is NO oxymoron.
Truth

Utica, NY

#14 Nov 23, 2013
hank mills wrote:
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so you see and agree that Potocki speaks in circles when it comes to name calling. Good for you.... and your "experience" re: liberals vs conservatives? I have to laugh. The poor poor "victimized" Tea Party?...guess we "experience" America from extremely opposite perspectives....but you do agree that "Potocki was wrong in saying that there are no racists within the Tea Party..." so you're not yet totally poisoned by the likes of YOUR TV heros. my views are fueled by the documented, actions and actual words of those i criticize or cite. i don't watch MSNBC or FOX. No, not ALL Tea Partiers are racist but from what i've seen they sure as hell cultivate the notion as they never stand against it or reject it when it rears it's ugly head at one of their gatherings. Extremists like Cruz and Palin need no help painting themselves as "crazies". Watching Cruz read Dr. Suess on C-Span was enough for me and Palin's (canceled) reality show was a hoot! LOL ...and didn't she have a gig on FOX News for awhile? What happened?
I think there is racism in any group. That doesn't completely discredit the entire group. If you look into it you find that Tea Party adherents condemn that kind of action and don't want to be associated with it. You conveniently overlook what I said about Code Pink, Sharpton and Jackson. The point was that there are fringe elements in every group of people.
As far as this that you said:
"my views are fueled by the documented, actions and actual words of those i criticize or cite"
You cited nothing. I just agreed with what you said about there being fringe racist elements that were drawn to Tea Party rallies. I've seen the pictures and proof of that. It looks to me like those things are quite rare though and it doesn't color my perception of the entire movement.
If your definition of crazy is using every legislative tool at one's disposal to fight against something one sees as bad for America then I guess Cruz is crazy. But, if you agree that any elected official should do everything in their power to represent the interests of the people that elected them then you can't say he's crazy. He and other Tea Party supported candidates were elected to do exactly what they are doing. Don't you remember the midterm election of 2010 when Republicans won back the House of Representatives from Democrats and almost did the same in the Senate? It was the Tea Party influence that made that happen. Did anyone really expect that those Congressmen and Senators elected by Tea Partiers would deny their core values and fall in with the old guard,'status quo' Republicans?(McCain, Graham et al.)
According to their website the Tea Party has "15 non-negotiable core beliefs". I have a hard time disagreeing with any of them really.
"1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged."
http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/
Not a Palin fan either.
Truth

Utica, NY

#15 Nov 23, 2013
oxy moron wrote:
You might not approve of the Affordable Care Act, but it is NO oxymoron.
Tel that to the people who've been cancelled and forced to find new coverage with a higher price tag than what they had. You really won't have to look that far.
BHO

Utica, NY

#16 Nov 23, 2013
oxy moron wrote:
You might not approve of the Affordable Care Act, but it is NO oxymoron.
I stand corrected. This Act will not provide care and is not affordable. Therefore, it does not meet the definition of an oxymoron.
hank mills

Chittenango, NY

#17 Nov 23, 2013
@ truth, glad you regurgitated the roles of those elected as TP candidates. i sincerely hope they continue on the same exact path they've chosen and keep Cruz and Palin in the spotlight for as long as possible because:

"Washington (CNN)- A new national poll provides more evidence of the political hit the Republican Party, the tea party movement, and House Speaker John Boehner took over the government shutdown.

According to a CNN/ORC International survey released Tuesday, 64% of Americans say they have an unfavorable view of the GOP, an all-time high dating back to 1992 when CNN first asked the question. Only three in 10 say they hold a favorable view of the party.

Fifty-six percent say they have an unfavorable view of the tea party movement, another record high in CNN polling. Only 28% say they see the 4-year-old grassroots conservative movement in a positive light.

The Democratic Party's 43%-51% favorable/unfavorable ratings are basically unchanged from late last month, just before the start of the shutdown."

Yep the TP is most definitely moving in the right direction and setting new records! LOL
Hope and Broke

Utica, NY

#18 Nov 23, 2013
I hope all you highly educated folks are happy the way you voted. No doubt you'll be the ones in the check out lines using your EBT cards slowing me down. Don't worry though, I'll pay for your health care as usual.1230
oxy moron

Utica, NY

#19 Nov 23, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Tel that to the people who've been cancelled and forced to find new coverage with a higher price tag than what they had. You really won't have to look that far.
What, do you want me to tell them what the definition of an oxymoron is? I would think that that'd be cold comfort.
Reality Czech

Utica, NY

#20 Nov 23, 2013
If there's one thing I've realized it's that there is always going to be a group of people who feel that the good ol' days are dead and gone and that we're in the grips of a terminal decline into the abyss---with grief and destruction soon to follow. They decry the liars and thieves who currently run things and want to put in their own set, who will ultimately also become liars and thieves to somebody else.

Meanwhile life goes on and there's stuff to get done.
Rog

Utica, NY

#21 Nov 23, 2013
And this is exactly why Roger could never win a race for dog catcher. He thinks he's smarter than everyone and talks down to them. He clearly references "Kool Aid" drinkers, a very terrible reference from the Jonestown massacre, but then complains about name calling.

He says there were no signs of racism. Come on! I won't say all Tea Party members, especially before they were co-opted by the Koch Brothers and Republican Party, are racist, but they evidence of fringe members showing up with racist signs and Obama dolls hanging from a noose are well established.

He would have been better served sticking to the original principles and issues. But that just wouldn't fit his obsession with the whole idea that white, old males should lead the country. Read his ramblings on the OD comments. He only sticks his angry head up when it's something to do with Obama or Picente (because he couldn't get 30% against Picente).

Oh, and is it just a coincidence that the only two examples he names from the "left" are black reverends? I think not. Freudian slip?

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