The Genesis Group
Frank Rizzo

Manlius, NY

#29 Jan 22, 2009
They were far better with Peter Gabriel at the helm.
Mark

AOL

#30 Jan 22, 2009
Durso was a mail clerk for city hall.Now he heads Genesis--lol
genesisbackagain

Syracuse, NY

#31 Feb 23, 2009
Genesis Group back in the news in yesterday's UticaOD. It seems their next meeting will be in the Mohawk Valley's first 100% green building, owned by one JK Hage. Isn't JK Hage the same person that brought us the new technology company to GAFB named the Griffiss Institute. In February 2007 the Utica OD had a great article about the failure of the Griffiss Institute but one thing was noted JK Hage was able to make almost $300,000, in two years, from that company which was started with our TAX dollars. How much of our tax dollars will JK Hage be making from his "green building"?

Below is from Feb. 2007 Utica OD
Here is a rundown of compensation as listed on the Form 990 documents:

•2003:$222,025 to Hage for "Legal and interim executive director."Elsewhere on the form,$206,250 is listed as expenses for "Compensation of officers, directors, etc." and $15,775 is listed as expenses for "Legal fees."That adds up to $222,025.

•2004:$50,002 to Hage and Hage, LLC, for "Legal and interim executive director."Elsewhere on the form,$50,002 is listed as expenses for "Legal fees."No compensation for Hage as executive director is listed on this form.Hage stopped working as interim executive director by February 2004, institute officials say.
Marie

AOL

#32 Feb 23, 2009
Genesis Group is a bunch of phonies headed by the best phony Ray Durso.Ray has no ability and he was a mail clerk at city hall.Listen to him speak--no dictio.they all say the same thing and this organization and Durso are creations of Joe Carucci.
alf

New York, NY

#33 Feb 23, 2009
a mutual admiration society

At a forum about a month ago (breakfast at the Radisson), one of the politicos (I forget which one) said to group (largely of Genesis members and political leaders) "Oh, it's so good to see all of you, some of the same faces we have been working with for years."

Well, if that is indeed the case, why is everything such a mess? The same people, political hacks, and social wannabees ... they are not part of the solution, but a major part of the problem. How about some people with real vision for what this area could be if we seriously addressed various problems we had rather than paying these problems lip service only with platitudes that do nothing?
Agreed

Syracuse, NY

#34 Feb 23, 2009
The only problem it is not just lip service they are promoting. Here is a case that they are promoting a venture by an attorney that has already received hundreds of thousands of taxpayer money from the Genesis Institute scam. How much money or help is the attorney getting this time? It's the same old politicians giving our money away to the same old takers. Per the Utica OD this so called "green" building has a payment in lieu of taxes agreement. Why?
alf wrote:
a mutual admiration society
At a forum about a month ago (breakfast at the Radisson), one of the politicos (I forget which one) said to group (largely of Genesis members and political leaders) "Oh, it's so good to see all of you, some of the same faces we have been working with for years."
Well, if that is indeed the case, why is everything such a mess? The same people, political hacks, and social wannabees ... they are not part of the solution, but a major part of the problem. How about some people with real vision for what this area could be if we seriously addressed various problems we had rather than paying these problems lip service only with platitudes that do nothing?
Harry

AOL

#35 Feb 23, 2009
Durso is a wanna be--he will always be a mail clerk
curious

New Hartford, NY

#38 Feb 23, 2009
Labella or Labrutto wrote:
It is another phoney NON Profit that just want to try and put money in their pockets. Please it is a joke. Just like Pat Laino and Dianne Dimeo
What about Pat Laino and Dianne Dimeo?
curious

New Hartford, NY

#39 Feb 23, 2009
genesisbackagain wrote:
Genesis Group back in the news in yesterday's UticaOD. It seems their next meeting will be in the Mohawk Valley's first 100% green building, owned by one JK Hage. Isn't JK Hage the same person that brought us the new technology company to GAFB named the Griffiss Institute. In February 2007 the Utica OD had a great article about the failure of the Griffiss Institute but one thing was noted JK Hage was able to make almost $300,000, in two years, from that company which was started with our TAX dollars. How much of our tax dollars will JK Hage be making from his "green building"?
Below is from Feb. 2007 Utica OD
Here is a rundown of compensation as listed on the Form 990 documents:
•2003:$222,025 to Hage for "Legal and interim executive director."Elsewhere on the form,$206,250 is listed as expenses for "Compensation of officers, directors, etc." and $15,775 is listed as expenses for "Legal fees."That adds up to $222,025.
•2004:$50,002 to Hage and Hage, LLC, for "Legal and interim executive director."Elsewhere on the form,$50,002 is listed as expenses for "Legal fees."No compensation for Hage as executive director is listed on this form.Hage stopped working as interim executive director by February 2004, institute officials say.
"Mohawk Valley's first 100% green building", where is this? If it's where I'm thinking of then the ED there is also a sham opportunist and member of Genesisi.
answer

Syracuse, NY

#40 Feb 24, 2009
Per article in UticaOD on Sunday:
The Hage Building
283 Genesee Street
Utica, NY

Per 2007 article in the OD this property is also being given a tax deal (PILOT).
Don

AOL

#41 Feb 24, 2009
Genesis should be disbanded as it serves no useful purpose other than a job for Durso.
Is This

United States

#42 Feb 24, 2009
The same J.K. Hage?

http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/1678/

"J.K. Hage III, Esq. is a lawyer / attorney in Utica, New York. He is 56, Lebonese, about 5'7" with a belly. Very smooth, great hair. Looks like actor Armond Assante. He lived with his girlfriend for years while he cheated on her and told people he was single. Then when he got his girlfriend pregnant, he let the girl he was cheating with try on the diamond ring before proposing. He got down on one knee and said "I can't promise to be faithful, and I won't wear a wedding ring, but if you keep your own name, and we don't have a wedding, I will you marry you" and she said "I'm just so happy you asked me!" He was sued for sexual harassment (had to pay out thousands of dollars), he continues to cheat on his wife and tell women he is single. He likes to have sex with his girlfriend while he talks to his wife on the phone--kinda sick. And he likes to be called "Daddy" during sex, which makes me really concerned for his daughters."
genesisbackagain wrote:
Genesis Group back in the news in yesterday's UticaOD. It seems their next meeting will be in the Mohawk Valley's first 100% green building, owned by one JK Hage. Isn't JK Hage the same person that brought us the new technology company to GAFB named the Griffiss Institute. In February 2007 the Utica OD had a great article about the failure of the Griffiss Institute but one thing was noted JK Hage was able to make almost $300,000, in two years, from that company which was started with our TAX dollars. How much of our tax dollars will JK Hage be making from his "green building"?
Below is from Feb. 2007 Utica OD
Here is a rundown of compensation as listed on the Form 990 documents:
•2003:$222,025 to Hage for "Legal and interim executive director."Elsewhere on the form,$206,250 is listed as expenses for "Compensation of officers, directors, etc." and $15,775 is listed as expenses for "Legal fees."That adds up to $222,025.
•2004:$50,002 to Hage and Hage, LLC, for "Legal and interim executive director."Elsewhere on the form,$50,002 is listed as expenses for "Legal fees."No compensation for Hage as executive director is listed on this form.Hage stopped working as interim executive director by February 2004, institute officials say.
true

Syracuse, NY

#43 Feb 24, 2009
Don wrote:
Genesis should be disbanded as it serves no useful purpose other than a job for Durso.
Truer words, have NEVER been spoken
Joe

AOL

#45 Feb 24, 2009
Durso is hurting the organization.He should resign based on loans he received in the past with his travel agency.
Not True

New York, NY

#46 Feb 24, 2009
Agree wrote:
So not only is this guy a cheat of the system, he is a cheat to his family. And this is what the Genesis Group is going to promote on Thursday night. It seems the Genesis Group is going to promote the creep of creeps. How did this guy get away with taking all that money from the Griffiss Insitute and why is the City of Utica giving him a tax break? This is all public knowledge and no one seems interested.
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You people are going to believe some BS story that can't be verified, that was posted by someone with a grudge on some silly gossip website, and take it as truth? Give me a break. I don't know anything about his business dealings or tax breaks, so I won't comment on those things. But what I do know is that he is a real family man who worships the ground his wife and children walk on, and I find it extremely unbelievable that he would ever step out on her or do the kinds of things that he was accused of in that ridiculous posting.

A lot of you people on here have a lot of growing up to do.
Not True

New York, NY

#47 Feb 24, 2009
And by the way, just for the record, I agree that the Genesis Group is pretty useless.
Agree

Syracuse, NY

#49 Feb 26, 2009
Tonight’s the big meeting at the “green building”. See how your tax dollars are wasted supporting the Genesis Group and the “green building”.
Actually

New York, NY

#50 Feb 26, 2009
Agree wrote:
Tonight’s the big meeting at the “green building”. See how your tax dollars are wasted supporting the Genesis Group and the “green building”.
I'm pretty sure that the article said that the meeting was at 7:30AM not PM. And while I agree that tax dollars are certainly wasted on the Genesis Group, I don't necessarily agree that it is a waste to use tax dollars to promote a 100% "green" building.
Agree

Syracuse, NY

#51 Feb 26, 2009
I guess I missed the meeting. Unfortunately I do not agree that "energy efficent lighting" and "vegetation roofing" equate to 100% green building. I have energy efficent light bulbs and I do not see anyone trying to give me a property tax break or financial help.
Dave

AOL

#52 Feb 26, 2009
Durso has to go.

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