Proctor Grad

New York, NY

#80 Oct 6, 2012
People on here are trying to talk about a loss to our community. Alex had no right to die regardless of her decisions. Unfortunately in many cases people dont know they are in a bad relationship until things happen. People dont come with background checks prior to dating. It is a tragic event please try to show some respect for Alexandra here. If you dont have anything nice to say about her or offer any sympothy then dont post at all.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#81 Oct 6, 2012
Proctor Grad wrote:
People on here are trying to talk about a loss to our community. Alex had no right to die regardless of her decisions. Unfortunately in many cases people dont know they are in a bad relationship until things happen. People dont come with background checks prior to dating. It is a tragic event please try to show some respect for Alexandra here. If you dont have anything nice to say about her or offer any sympothy then dont post at all.
When someone posts something in response to one of my posts, I'll write anything I want to. Don't like it? Don't visit this website.

As for people not coming with background checks, there are almost always indicators, but many airheads CHOOSE to ignore them. Once again, if you make bad choices, bad things may happen.
Syrax

Utica, NY

#84 Oct 6, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
I laugh when airheads make bad decisions about men.
At least she admitted it before she died..."Should've known."
Teach your daughters to be smarter than this girl was.
Aint that the truth.

What happened is tragic, no doubt.

But this girl reminds me of every "popular" girl I went to high school with.

They wouldn't give a decent guy the time of day, but never have trouble falling for these piece of crap jocks.
one who knows

Whitesboro, NY

#86 Oct 7, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know about it being confined to "popular" girls. Men make a lot of bad decisions, too...the size of a girl's tits, how pretty she is, without any regard for how good of a person she is.
But, this thread is about an airhead who PROBABLY made a bad decision. I will concede that there is a CHANCE there were no indications it would turn out this way. But as I stated before, there usually are.
You sound like someone who has NOT matured at all and know very little about relationships and falling in love.

Very few woman sit their sights on men like Clayton Whitmore who think being a jock is so important in life. Instead, a man who is caring, has a heart and soul, and treats a woman with respect and love, are the type of men which will get the attention of a "nice" girl.

You know nothing about Alex's life other than she was only 18 years old and did NOT have that much experience in dealing with abusive situations or being able to spot anyone that displayed these traits.
From what I've read about Alex, she was a sweet, and caring young lady and probably thought other people were as caring as she was. Had she lived longer, she would have found out her outlook on life was like trying to find a diamond in a pile of mud.

Clayton is 100% to blame for the death of Alex. Quite trying to put any of the blame on Alex as she was the victim and 100% innocent. No woman has the strength to fight off a madman!
Barb

New Hartford, NY

#87 Oct 7, 2012
Proctor Grad wrote:
It still hurts to think about this happening. I did not know Alex directly but this has definately touched me and my entire family. How could this happen. It is an absolute sin. It definatley has shaken me and continues to rattle in my brain. May Alex rest in Peace and hopefully be in a better place.
Procter Grade, I feel the same way about all this I can't believe all of this terrible, horrific act that he did to this beautiful young girl.. She had so much going for her so much to live for.. This has made me very depressed and can't stop thinking about Alex.. I didn't know Alex or her parents but you didn't have to know them to have this touch your heart . Being a mom and a nonnie I can't imagine if this happened to my grandchildren . I 'm scared for who my grandaughter dates can't tell her enough to be careful what to watch for ...I talk talk to my grandson always be polite and caring with your date and never ever do anything in this world to ever hurt another human being..We can only pray that what we teach them they have listened and learned life's lessons...The Wittemore mother is sufferning also her son is finished he has no more life it will be spent behind bars. However The Kogut family has a great loss and I pray for this mother and father that God Gives them all the strenth and courage and love they need to live each day and to carry on for Alex. Girls today should go to self defense classes learn how to defend yourself and girls stay away from the losers your not going to change them..From what I heard they were not boyfriend and girlfriend they hung out together and for only 6 months,.. But I know how you feel about this I can't stop thinking about Alex poor honey and her mom and dad... omg
yes!

Brooklyn, NY

#88 Oct 7, 2012
People she was beaten to death with a crow bar. One strike was prolly al it took. No self defense class would have saved that RIP Alex You will always be remembered
Syrax

Utica, NY

#89 Oct 7, 2012
one who knows wrote:
Very few woman sit their sights on men like Clayton Whitmore who think being a jock is so important in life. Instead, a man who is caring, has a heart and soul, and treats a woman with respect and love, are the type of men which will get the attention of a "nice" girl.
Except she wasn't a "woman" as much as she was a girl still under the influence of high school mentality.

Unless times have changed that much (which is doubtful) most attractive and popular girls like her tend to gravitate to the jocks and other imaginary "heroes" in high school which are upheld as superior by students and faculty alike.

It really is a disgrace how schools like New Harford and countless others across the nation have constructed and upheld these ideas of superiority and "status" within high schools.

Anyone who denies this takes place has never been to high school. End of story.
yesI

Rochester, NY

#90 Oct 7, 2012
As all of you should know, the college has emergency crowbars in every hallway and all the students carry them around. I know, the same thing happened to me, was struck several times in the head with one and now I'm off to see the wizard of OZ to get a new brain.
for real

Rochester, NY

#92 Oct 7, 2012
Brittney wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure father too knows of the bad things that can happen, he's also a father. With the divorce rate at or near 50%, and domestic violence on the rise, I guess an overwhelming amount of people make the wrong choice. Now the question is, did all those people make the wrong choice? well obviously yes but did they know it at the time? well obviously no. For you to tell father too he'll teach his daughter to be a victim is just plain wrong. I don't know if there was ever physical violence between Alex and Clayton where that should have been the warning sign for her. Everyone loving couple gets into arguments, doesn't mean you pack your bags. we don't know the history between those two, so to jump to the conclusion she knowingly made the wrong choice is wrong. Key word, KNOWINGLY!!
You're that naive, you don't see hundreds of people who date, then just stay together even though they weren't meant to be together. They see signs, don't work together as a team, argue all the time, have barley anything in common, but still stay together due to sex or afraid of being alone. Take off your sun glasses. Almost forgot all the women who put up with abusive men and instead of getting out early, they wait until the guy is hooked and this happens. Seen it a thousand times.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#93 Oct 7, 2012
Brittney wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure father too knows of the bad things that can happen, he's also a father. With the divorce rate at or near 50%, and domestic violence on the rise, I guess an overwhelming amount of people make the wrong choice. Now the question is, did all those people make the wrong choice? well obviously yes but did they know it at the time? well obviously no. For you to tell father too he'll teach his daughter to be a victim is just plain wrong. I don't know if there was ever physical violence between Alex and Clayton where that should have been the warning sign for her. Everyone loving couple gets into arguments, doesn't mean you pack your bags. we don't know the history between those two, so to jump to the conclusion she knowingly made the wrong choice is wrong. Key word, KNOWINGLY!!
The stat you used about divorce is deceiving. Get married before the age of 28 and the divorce rate is 75%. Conversely, waiting until 28 or older and you have only a 25% divorce rate,(in order to arrive at what you and all of us know is an approximate 50% rate).

But yes, if Father Too, is putting absolutely none of this on her and her poor decisions, his kids will learn to be victims also. As another poster stated about this post of yours, you are naive. It would appear you were also raised to be a victim. Sad.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#94 Oct 7, 2012
one who knows wrote:
<quoted text>
Clayton is 100% to blame for the death of Alex. Quite trying to put any of the blame on Alex as she was the victim and 100% innocent. No woman has the strength to fight off a madman!
Attitudes such as yours will only have us right back on here in a week or two, discussing the next girl who is killed by someone she knows. It's too bad you weren't raised to be accountable for the choices you make in life. If you were, you would be able to recognize that she had the greatest power in determining whether or not this would happen to her.

I was at least MATURE enough to admit there MAY have not been indicators that he was a loser. But chances are, there were; There usually are. You are not mature enough to do that. You have bought into a victim mentality, where people can make whatever bad choices they like and never have any blame.

It's sad that you never grew up. No worries....many people don't.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#95 Oct 7, 2012
for real wrote:
<quoted text>You're that naive, you don't see hundreds of people who date, then just stay together even though they weren't meant to be together. They see signs, don't work together as a team, argue all the time, have barley anything in common, but still stay together due to sex or afraid of being alone. Take off your sun glasses. Almost forgot all the women who put up with abusive men and instead of getting out early, they wait until the guy is hooked and this happens. Seen it a thousand times.
The ones who make me laugh are the idiots who argue like crazy as bf & gf, but still get married, thinking marriage will make it better!

Another funny one is, people who are having difficulty, but have a bay (or another) thinking THAT will make things better.

Both of those things happen quite frequently.

But many of the posters on this thread live in Fantasyland. There were influenced by this ridiculous society of ours, where you should be able to walk on the freeway and sue anyone who hits you with their car. Pathetic.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#96 Oct 7, 2012
have a BABY
Barb

New Hartford, NY

#97 Oct 7, 2012
They weren't boyfriend and gf they hung out together and it was only about 6 months. He would go visiit and bring her stuff from home... He beat her with a flat iron.. He seriously needs help because this young man isn't right in his head or he was on a roid rage and this is what happenns they become very violent and out of control..This poor girl wasn't dating him she didn't like him in that way only as a friend.....Poor Alex RIP in peace we all love you even if we didn't know you sweetheart but through all this sadness you tounched our hearts in a way that we will never forget you... You didn't deserve this not at all .. WE all need to take a stance and do something about domestic violence to stop it.. IF someone is stalking you report because the new law passed awhile ago they will be arreste. Stop it before its to late.. Partent talk to your children tell them what to do if something is going on that isn't normal.. Most of all tell them to talk to you about what is going on with their life. Know their frinds, screen their friends...Most of all hug your children everyday and make their house a cozy home so they feel safe and loved as Alex was. She came from a beautiful family no one can say anything different they were people that are people that are pillars of the community.... Gentle hugs to the family...
Syrax

Utica, NY

#99 Oct 7, 2012
Barb wrote:
He seriously needs help because this young man isn't right in his head or he was on a roid rage and this is what happenns they become very violent and out of control.
do not judge

Rochester, NY

#100 Oct 7, 2012
Syrax wrote:
<quoted text>
Aint that the truth.
What happened is tragic, no doubt.
But this girl reminds me of every "popular" girl I went to high school with.
They wouldn't give a decent guy the time of day, but never have trouble falling for these piece of crap jocks.
Wow, from reading the posts from Anonymous and Syrax, Anonymous and Syrax must have a very lonely life and extremely bad luck with women. Guess that type of attitude and judgement has led them to this lonely life of hateful posts. Making these types of disgraceful posts only bring you lower than the low level you are already at. And when you think in your head that you are annoying people and trying to get their goat, think again. Most people would probably feel sorry for you and the hate in your heart. Hope you will see some type of happiness in your future.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#104 Oct 7, 2012
STFU wrote:
<quoted text>
Everybody in this world makes mistakes including your parents when they decided to have kids.
Your mom doesn't think so. She loved sucking me dry.

But thanks for giving me another chance to say that this airhead, Alexandra, should have made better choices in friends. Bet she won't make that mistake again! LOL!!!
Hi Billy

Syracuse, NY

#105 Oct 7, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Your mom doesn't think so. She loved sucking me dry.
But thanks for giving me another chance to say that this airhead, Alexandra, should have made better choices in friends. Bet she won't make that mistake again! LOL!!!
BW must be bored today. LOL!
Just wrong

Baldwinsville, NY

#108 Oct 8, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Couldn't be further from the truth. Thanks for showing your ignorance.
Also, thanks for giving me another opportunity to say that if this young lady had been smarter, she'd probably wouldn't have gotten whacked over the head with a crow bar. There was probably just a hiss of air, as her skull cracked open. ROTFLMAO!!!
Your information is just wrong. No crowbar; you show you know nothing about the young woman; and you show you know very little about the human condition. No credibility here. Move on.
Utica Man

Utica, NY

#109 Oct 8, 2012
Boy it sounds like Anonymous really got dumped. Someone left you for another guy didn't they? I bet you would do the same thing to your next girlfriend, or your child, wouldn't you? Big scary guy, gets off on abusing people on Topix. Total little cowardly a-hole. Everyone reading your posts agrees with me,so keep that in mind every time you post. What a lifeless, loveless moron. I really hope that in your case, "what goes around comes around". Have kids of your own? Very bad kharma to post what you post.

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