I support what Dorner did. Should hap...

I support what Dorner did. Should happen more often.

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utican

New York, NY

#1 Feb 14, 2013
I think its funny how Dorner started this because of police corruption and illegal actions by police and LAPD did exactly that which he was trying to expose. The LAPD and most other PD should be investigated by an independently elected committee and charged criminally.

Come on!
Shooting at three separate vehicles because it looked suspicious?
Burning a man alive. What if he had hostages they didnt know about and not to mention due process.

These pigs just trashed our constitution.
THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED!
CRISP DONER FRIED

Fayetteville, NY

#2 Feb 14, 2013
The biggest glowing hero, his ashes will change the world. His ashes will go on tour next week.
utican

New York, NY

#3 Feb 14, 2013
CRISP DONER FRIED wrote:
The biggest glowing hero, his ashes will change the world. His ashes will go on tour next week.
Go away UPD! I am sick and tired of you as*wipes on here.

Every day I hear and see police brutality stories and videos and it makes me sick. At least this guy stood up to the GOON squad of the elite. They are too stupid to realize that it is class warfare and they are on the wrong side. DUMMIES. I have NO sympathy for any police death. They get what they deserve. A bullet to the noggin!
Former res

United States

#4 Feb 14, 2013
Not cool at all. There many avenues he could have taken to expose corrupt working conditions of the LAPD but becoming a murder is not one.What is wrong with society!
truth

Utica, NY

#5 Feb 14, 2013
The problem you have now is that Law Enforcement can blatantly get away with violating one's civil rights whereas the average citizen is left with very little if any recourse. The justice department under the Obama Administration could care less about corruption and protecting the rights of whistle blowers. The message is loud and clear: people are no longer being provided with remedies and therefore are turning to their last resort which entails taking the law into their own hands. What options does one have when no one is willing to listen? Law Enforcement knows this and the police state is gaining rapid power!
Well Well Well

Utica, NY

#6 Feb 14, 2013
I support what he did as well.

Any investigation into polic corruption is worthless because it is done by people already in public positions and they abide by the rule "protect your own." Most likely, the cops have something on them anyway so they won't be too harsh on cops.

Corrupt cops, judges and politicians should be killed. They don't deserve due process because they were in a position that required the highest ethics and behavior and they completely failed at it.
Well Well Well

Utica, NY

#7 Feb 14, 2013
Cop gets away with killing driver when passenger said driver had his hands on the wheel the whole time:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/nyregion/ny...

The D.A. runs the Grand Jury.
ann

Utica, NY

#8 Feb 14, 2013
utican wrote:
I think its funny how Dorner started this because of police corruption and illegal actions by police and LAPD did exactly that which he was trying to expose. The LAPD and most other PD should be investigated by an independently elected committee and charged criminally.
Come on!
Shooting at three separate vehicles because it looked suspicious?
Burning a man alive. What if he had hostages they didnt know about and not to mention due process.
These pigs just trashed our constitution.
THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED!
you are a lunatic!!!
Who cares

Carthage, NY

#9 Feb 14, 2013
truth wrote:
The problem you have now is that Law Enforcement can blatantly get away with violating one's civil rights whereas the average citizen is left with very little if any recourse. The justice department under the Obama Administration could care less about corruption and protecting the rights of whistle blowers. The message is loud and clear: people are no longer being provided with remedies and therefore are turning to their last resort which entails taking the law into their own hands. What options does one have when no one is willing to listen? Law Enforcement knows this and the police state is gaining rapid power!
It is NEVER smart to take the law into your own hands as there are other ways to solve a "misjustice".

Damer chose to be Judge and Jury and in his twisted mind, set out to kill other policemen, their families, and anyone associated with him being fired. He lost!!!!
truth

Utica, NY

#10 Feb 14, 2013
Who cares wrote:
<quoted text>It is NEVER smart to take the law into your own hands as there are other ways to solve a "misjustice".

Damer chose to be Judge and Jury and in his twisted mind, set out to kill other policemen, their families, and anyone associated with him being fired. He lost!!!!
Thank you for agreeing with me and thus proving my point that otherwise peaceful remedies are becoming scarcer by the day for even former law enforcement personnel. No where am I condoning his behavior. But it just goes to show that those who are in a position to uphold the law know all too well that the remedies that once existed are frowned upon by the likes of Eric Holder our Attorney General.
hank hill

Milton, WI

#11 Feb 15, 2013
Wait til the dna comes back and its not him, he'll start shooting these corrupt bastards again. I'm waiting for it.
wrong

Fayetteville, NY

#12 Feb 15, 2013
hank hill wrote:
Wait til the dna comes back and its not him, he'll start shooting these corrupt bastards again. I'm waiting for it.
Its confirmed.
pissed off

New York, NY

#13 Feb 15, 2013
Who cares wrote:
<quoted text>It is NEVER smart to take the law into your own hands as there are other ways to solve a "misjustice".
Damer chose to be Judge and Jury and in his twisted mind, set out to kill other policemen, their families, and anyone associated with him being fired. He lost!!!!
Isn't that exactly what the LAPD did by burning him alive! Are you blind? They executed a man by burning him alive. Since when have we as a society ever done that. Salem witch trials in 1600?
If a ruthless goon squad calling themselves protectors decide to be judge, jury and executor why cant a single man do the same?
one who knows

Carthage, NY

#14 Feb 15, 2013
truth wrote:
The problem you have now is that Law Enforcement can blatantly get away with violating one's civil rights whereas the average citizen is left with very little if any recourse. The justice department under the Obama Administration could care less about corruption and protecting the rights of whistle blowers. The message is loud and clear: people are no longer being provided with remedies and therefore are turning to their last resort which entails taking the law into their own hands. What options does one have when no one is willing to listen? Law Enforcement knows this and the police state is gaining rapid power!
Most Police Depts. have a Civilian Board that investigate ALL alleged complaints of "abuse of power" against one of their Officer. Utica is in the process of finding the people needed to sit on this Board and it should be finalized soon.

BUT - ALL Officers have the right to defend themselves when THEY are attacked!!!! The criminal element in Utica should have more respect for our Officers and always remember "honey is alot sweeter than vinger".
truth

Utica, NY

#15 Feb 15, 2013
This all sounds like Chris Patterson who was fired upon for not complying. It's amazing how it got turned on him and had he complied an officer would not be dead. Every day, I see more and more cops becoming the real criminals in society.
Kiss My Azz

Herkimer, NY

#16 Feb 15, 2013
Who cares wrote:
<quoted text>It is NEVER smart to take the law into your own hands as there are other ways to solve a "misjustice".
Damer chose to be Judge and Jury and in his twisted mind, set out to kill other policemen, their families, and anyone associated with him being fired. He lost!!!!
Wrong! I've been in his shoes where I was fired under false pretenses; however, I haven't killed anyone. The words "twisted mind" bother me. This was a man of good character all of his life, a deep believe in the "fairytale judicial system" that was created as a moral guideline. He reported POLICE BRUTALITY and paid the price of being fired. Being fired is like a sudden, unexpected death of your inner spirit. You're ostrasized by your once so-called co-working friends. Your're abandoned, shunned and everything you worked hard for all your life is reduced to nothing. Depression and revenge sets in. This should be a lesson to all law enforement who think they live above the law that their corrupted actions can lead to danger for themselves and their loved ones. Sometimes what goes around comes around. BTW..the female animal cop, known for drawing blood of those citizens arrested, was promoted to Sargent. Nice LAPD!
Kiss My Azz

Herkimer, NY

#17 Feb 15, 2013
one who knows wrote:
<quoted text>Most Police Depts. have a Civilian Board that investigate ALL alleged complaints of "abuse of power" against one of their Officer. Utica is in the process of finding the people needed to sit on this Board and it should be finalized soon.
BUT - ALL Officers have the right to defend themselves when THEY are attacked!!!! The criminal element in Utica should have more respect for our Officers and always remember "honey is alot sweeter than vinger".
It will be interesting to see who is selected.
All welfare to me

United States

#18 Feb 15, 2013
utican wrote:
I think its funny how Dorner started this because of police corruption and illegal actions by police and LAPD did exactly that which he was trying to expose. The LAPD and most other PD should be investigated by an independently elected committee and charged criminally.
Come on!
Shooting at three separate vehicles because it looked suspicious?
Burning a man alive. What if he had hostages they didnt know about and not to mention due process.
These pigs just trashed our constitution.
THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED!
I would have supported him up until the point he involved completely innocent people into it.

No matter what anyone admits, they all know how BAAAAAAAD this makes the LAPD look it is a total lose lose lose for them.

1-They caused it- NOBODY "invents" all that detail of corruption to cover up what the police would want you to think was "just a wacko". The supposedly "improved" systemic racism and CYA Blue Line corruption at LAPD is the largest contributor to driving the man over the edge. A.K.A.'Reap what you sow'. He was driven to the edge and decided to step over. That's on C. Dorner, but the systemic hate and arrogance from the Cult of Public Safety is getting stupid now.

2-The Torrence cops totally exacerbated their image problems by then shooting up innocent people and ramming one kid's car in their gung ho badass-ness.

3-They can't explain how he was hiding 4 days in a cabin across the street from their "command center", literally able to watch THEM.

4-There are now recordings in the wild on the internet that feature police at the scene screaming and taunting "Burn that fcker" on open mics, subsequently the cabin burned. So whether right or wrong, deserved or not, the supposed, and much self-ballyhoed "upholders of the law" have show the world on live TV once again that they are simple criminals and murderers themselves. If they were so "right" then why not control themselves and use the same effort to take him alive if possible? Clearly that wasn't the plan.

5- The LAPD received a call from the owner of the cabin who was watching on live TV and has told the media she told them at the outset that there was no cable, internet or telephone in the cabin, yet the LAPD demanded, with zero FAA or AT authority, for the coverage media aircraft to pull back. Perhaps to "hide" what they were planning, or any further blunders that might occur. Viola!

6- Their response to this can only be one of defending their obvious blunders and mistakes. Again. Add to this that "it's personal" to them so the predictable Cult of Public Safety will be adversarial, defensive and vindictive in their handling of this.

It's a shame innocent people have died, but let's not be as naive as the Cult of Public Pension Safety would have us be. Blaming "just" C. Dorner is faulty logic and excuse-making for self-preservation to the police.

Like all mass killings, these escalations of social moral rot embolden and often guide the nature of the next mass killing. This will happen again until the systemic "blue line" lie is corrected. A gang that protects their won from accusation of wrongdoing all the way to murder, as you have seen here.
hank hill

Milton, WI

#19 Feb 15, 2013
wrong wrote:
<quoted text>Its confirmed.
oh missed that, sorry.
hank hill

Milton, WI

#20 Feb 15, 2013
pissed off wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't that exactly what the LAPD did by burning him alive! Are you blind? They executed a man by burning him alive. Since when have we as a society ever done that. Salem witch trials in 1600?
If a ruthless goon squad calling themselves protectors decide to be judge, jury and executor why cant a single man do the same?
they had their uniforms on, so I guess that makes it ok cook someone. Its the hell-a PD, the most corrupt police department in the country, if he had no morals he would have fit right in. Poor bastard...him going on this rampage was sure to get him reinstated!

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