Utica Police Show Up Pay

Utica Police Show Up Pay

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Wondering

Little Falls, NY

#1 Feb 28, 2013
Honestly, I am sick and tired of hearing all the whining form the UPD about show up pay. I have friends that work in maximum security prisons that don;t get it but must report early for their job. One would think in this day and age, the police would be happy to have a well paying job without all these unneeded perks like show up pay.

Chief Williams whine and says morale is down: really? How about the morale of the taxpayers. those are the people that pay your paycheck. Does their morale count? Why not man up and tell these punks that if they want a job, do it and quit crying. Your unions have killed this city and yet you want more. I for one would love to see police doing their job instead of parking behind Hannafords, in St Anthonys cemetery,at the old SUNY Building across from the Utica Club Brewery among MANY other hiding places and ticket people for walking in the road, driving while on cellphones and cutting red lights and stop signs. If you guys don't want the job, as your employer (a taxpayer) I invite you to leave as I am sure we can find others to fill your positions. As the old saying goes " if you have time to lean, you have time to clean"! Do your job or go.

Christ, when are all of you public safety people going to wake up and smell the broken city? You make it reek!
Wondering

Little Falls, NY

#2 Feb 28, 2013
And the next time any one sees the "Chief" ask him about how his 2 man Union made sure HE got a raise this year. That's really pitching in buddy.
In The Know

Utica, NY

#3 Feb 28, 2013
Yes!! Chief Williams and DC Toomey are getting $19,000 in show up pay between them that WAS budgeted by the Mayor! Mayor's son-in-laws get several thousand dollars in grant money that used to be spread out to other officers! Billy Williams (Chiefs brother) is getting $4,500 in grant money that used to be given to several officers! THIS IS BLATANT OBVIOUS GREED to friends and family!!!
Flipper

Little Falls, NY

#4 Feb 28, 2013
I hate to admit it, but I have heard this all before. I though Mark Williams would be a good fit for Chief, but am becoming to realize that hiring someone from outside the present department would have been the optimum decision. Seems like the Chief is protecting his "friends and family" on the force.
hooray

Bridgeport, NY

#5 Feb 28, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Honestly, I am sick and tired of hearing all the whining form the UPD about show up pay. I have friends that work in maximum security prisons that don;t get it but must report early for their job. One would think in this day and age, the police would be happy to have a well paying job without all these unneeded perks like show up pay.

Chief Williams whine and says morale is down: really? How about the morale of the taxpayers. those are the people that pay your paycheck. Does their morale count? Why not man up and tell these punks that if they want a job, do it and quit crying. Your unions have killed this city and yet you want more. I for one would love to see police doing their job instead of parking behind Hannafords, in St Anthonys cemetery,at the old SUNY Building across from the Utica Club Brewery among MANY other hiding places and ticket people for walking in the road, driving while on cellphones and cutting red lights and stop signs. If you guys don't want the job, as your employer (a taxpayer) I invite you to leave as I am sure we can find others to fill your positions. As the old saying goes " if you have time to lean, you have time to clean"! Do your job or go.

Christ, when are all of you public safety people going to wake up and smell the broken city? You make it reek!
Very well said. Thank you.
hooray2

United States

#6 Feb 28, 2013
Flipper wrote:
I hate to admit it, but I have heard this all before. I though Mark Williams would be a good fit for Chief, but am becoming to realize that hiring someone from outside the present department would have been the optimum decision. Seems like the Chief is protecting his "friends and family" on the force.
Ppl need to open their eyes. How very true
in Utica

Little Falls, NY

#7 Feb 28, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Honestly, I am sick and tired of hearing all the whining form the UPD about show up pay. I have friends that work in maximum security prisons that don;t get it but must report early for their job. One would think in this day and age, the police would be happy to have a well paying job without all these unneeded perks like show up pay.
Chief Williams whine and says morale is down: really? How about the morale of the taxpayers. those are the people that pay your paycheck. Does their morale count? Why not man up and tell these punks that if they want a job, do it and quit crying. Your unions have killed this city and yet you want more. I for one would love to see police doing their job instead of parking behind Hannafords, in St Anthonys cemetery,at the old SUNY Building across from the Utica Club Brewery among MANY other hiding places and ticket people for walking in the road, driving while on cellphones and cutting red lights and stop signs. If you guys don't want the job, as your employer (a taxpayer) I invite you to leave as I am sure we can find others to fill your positions. As the old saying goes " if you have time to lean, you have time to clean"! Do your job or go.
Christ, when are all of you public safety people going to wake up and smell the broken city? You make it reek!
Couldn't have said it better myself
ummm

Waterville, NY

#8 Mar 1, 2013
I'm not a cop and I must be missing something. How can the city require a worker to report to work and not pay them? Wage and hour law prohibits this? If they have to be at work at 8am then they get paid from 8am. If you want shifts to overlap then schedule appropriately .
wow

Carthage, NY

#10 Mar 1, 2013
ummm wrote:
I'm not a cop and I must be missing something. How can the city require a worker to report to work and not pay them? Wage and hour law prohibits this? If they have to be at work at 8am then they get paid from 8am. If you want shifts to overlap then schedule appropriately .
its they get paid for 15 minutes that they are not even there and get paid. so know what your talking about before you spout off
wow

Carthage, NY

#11 Mar 1, 2013
and they should not get show up pay. to show up for work. in the past 6 years all of then recieved show up pay. Now does that seem right?
Idiot

Holland Patent, NY

#12 Mar 1, 2013
Wondering wrote:
Honestly, I am sick and tired of hearing all the whining form the UPD about show up pay. I have friends that work in maximum security prisons that don;t get it but must report early for their job. One would think in this day and age, the police would be happy to have a well paying job without all these unneeded perks like show up pay.
Chief Williams whine and says morale is down: really? How about the morale of the taxpayers. those are the people that pay your paycheck. Does their morale count? Why not man up and tell these punks that if they want a job, do it and quit crying. Your unions have killed this city and yet you want more. I for one would love to see police doing their job instead of parking behind Hannafords, in St Anthonys cemetery,at the old SUNY Building across from the Utica Club Brewery among MANY other hiding places and ticket people for walking in the road, driving while on cellphones and cutting red lights and stop signs. If you guys don't want the job, as your employer (a taxpayer) I invite you to leave as I am sure we can find others to fill your positions. As the old saying goes " if you have time to lean, you have time to clean"! Do your job or go.
Christ, when are all of you public safety people going to wake up and smell the broken city? You make it reek!
If you have friends that work in maximum security prisons that don't get LINE UP PAY then you are very misinformed,I happen to work in that atmosphere and I DO GET LINE UP PAY your friends are not telling you everything for good reason. People it is called line up pay not show up pay the mayor twisted the wording to benefit himself.
Not an Idiot

Little Falls, NY

#13 Mar 1, 2013
Idiot wrote:
<quoted text>If you have friends that work in maximum security prisons that don't get LINE UP PAY then you are very misinformed,I happen to work in that atmosphere and I DO GET LINE UP PAY your friends are not telling you everything for good reason. People it is called line up pay not show up pay the mayor twisted the wording to benefit himself.
Okay Chief Williams, stop trying to defend your crew: it's embarrassing.
someone who knows

Carthage, NY

#14 Mar 1, 2013
ummm wrote:
I'm not a cop and I must be missing something. How can the city require a worker to report to work and not pay them? Wage and hour law prohibits this? If they have to be at work at 8am then they get paid from 8am. If you want shifts to overlap then schedule appropriately .
Depends on the status/rank of their employment.

If you are paid as an HOURLY worker, you get paid for the actual time you work.

If you are paid as an EXEMPT(salary)worker, you get paid based on an annual salary (despite number of hours).
Idiot

Holland Patent, NY

#15 Mar 1, 2013
Not an Idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay Chief Williams, stop trying to defend your crew: it's embarrassing.
I have nothing to do with the UPD and would never have anything to do with them so nice try,what else have you got moron?
Idiot

Holland Patent, NY

#16 Mar 1, 2013
someone who knows wrote:
<quoted text>Depends on the status/rank of their employment.
If you are paid as an HOURLY worker, you get paid for the actual time you work.
If you are paid as an EXEMPT(salary)worker, you get paid based on an annual salary (despite number of hours).
Not true it depends on the agreement between the employer and employee.
Not an Idiot

Little Falls, NY

#17 Mar 1, 2013
Idiot wrote:
I have nothing to do with the UPD and would never have anything to do with them so nice try,what else have you got moron?
Moron? LOL, typical troll retort. Try again little girl. Since you would have nothing to do with the UPD, why comment? Careful sweetie, your slip is showing.
Citizen

Carthage, NY

#18 Mar 1, 2013
I agree with th councilman who said "Just show up on time". Save money where you can and that 15 minute stipulation is a corner that can cut without cutting a job.
Utica PBA

Utica, NY

#19 Mar 1, 2013
Cut the six vacant positions......we are not giving up show up pay, especially when the mayor won't cut the chief and deputy chiefs show up pay!!
Wondering

Little Falls, NY

#20 Mar 1, 2013
The best part of Topix is when all the police and their supporters and families show up and judge the truth as false. I know I am right and you ignorant people know the truth. you all have killed this city with your unions and baby like demands. The control board will fix all of your asses, and I will be laughing and posting the " I told you so" post.

So enjoy your little victory here, the truth will be told and you all have no one to blame but yourselves. Lets see how you insignificant people look the taxpayers in the eyes when it comes down to the control board. So sad.
Taxing

Carthage, NY

#21 Mar 1, 2013
Utica PBA wrote:
Cut the six vacant positions......we are not giving up show up pay, especially when the mayor won't cut the chief and deputy chiefs show up pay!!
Show up pay is not good for the budget. Every city employee that is paid with tax money should take a 5% pay cut for a year or two. It would help the city which currently has a budget problem. Take one for the team. We the taxpayers seem to take one wvery year with a tax increase.

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