Cuba cracker

New York, NY

#43 Apr 8, 2013
nice wrote:
<quoted text>if their is no obligation to the city why did they give him another year to finish duh if he doesn't finish they take the property back and then give it to the running hall of fame haha
That is not the case at all. Where do you pull this from? The City does not own the property nor can take it away. And since they are a non-profit, there is no tax issue by which to seize the property either.
nice

Utica, NY

#44 Apr 8, 2013
Cuba cracker wrote:
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That is not the case at all. Where do you pull this from? The City does not own the property nor can take it away. And since they are a non-profit, there is no tax issue by which to seize the property either.
you haven't watched the news on this they gave him an extension to finish and if he doesn't they take the property back https://www.google.com/url... if the construction wasn't completed within two years they would lose the property read the news since you don't get out much
Cuba cracker

New York, NY

#45 Apr 8, 2013
nice wrote:
<quoted text>you haven't watched the news on this they gave him an extension to finish and if he doesn't they take the property back https://www.google.com/url... if the construction wasn't completed within two years they would lose the property read the news since you don't get out much
A miracle, you could actually prove one thing you've posted as correct.

Fact remains, the City won't reacquire that property because they have no interest in doing so. The article you posted and the agreement referenced are meaningless. My original position stands as correct, the City isn't taking the property.
confused

Utica, NY

#46 Apr 8, 2013
Who cares if the city does or not..hell give them another 5 years and it still wont be built. I'd love to see what the condition the foundation is in after a few winters. Just maybe and I say maybe they will pay some of the contractors they stiffed..naaaa

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Since: Mar 10

Utica, NY

#47 Apr 8, 2013
Lou Sir wrote:
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Yes, you are confused. the "books" to any non-profit are already open. You can go into any non-profit and request to see their financials and they are obligated to let you see them.
You go ask Matt to see the books? See what happens

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nice

Utica, NY

#48 Apr 8, 2013
Irish_michael wrote:
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You go ask Matt to see the books? See what happens
their is no punishment it he doesn't allow you to see the books.. but if you did ask him video record it because if he doesn't he is committing a crime and by law you car record a crime in progress
amazing

Utica, NY

#49 Apr 8, 2013
nice wrote:
<quoted text>their is no punishment it he doesn't allow you to see the books.. but if you did ask him video record it because if he doesn't he is committing a crime and by law you car record a crime in progress
Just where do you get your stupidity from?
Swift

Syracuse, NY

#54 Apr 9, 2013
Lou Sir wrote:
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Yes, you are confused. the "books" to any non-profit are already open. You can go into any non-profit and request to see their financials and they are obligated to let you see them.
You're incorrect. Again.
sorted

Clinton, NY

#55 Apr 9, 2013
it is true that there can be strict penalties if they refuse to open the books to you within 24 of requesting. of course their cpa, and lawyer (who is also a cpa) should know this.
Swift

Syracuse, NY

#56 Apr 9, 2013
sorted wrote:
it is true that there can be strict penalties if they refuse to open the books to you within 24 of requesting. of course their cpa, and lawyer (who is also a cpa) should know this.
They do not have to open the books.
what a lou sir

Herkimer, NY

#57 Apr 9, 2013
Swift wrote:
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You're incorrect. Again.
No, actually, I am spot on.
LOL

Syracuse, NY

#61 Apr 9, 2013
sorted wrote:
it is true that there can be strict penalties if they refuse to open the books to you within 24 of requesting. of course their cpa, and lawyer (who is also a cpa) should know this.
Suck it up ding dong it's not set up that way. Get off the page and go ride your unicorn off to fairy land now.
what a lou sir

Herkimer, NY

#62 Apr 9, 2013
LOL wrote:
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Suck it up ding dong it's not set up that way. Get off the page and go ride your unicorn off to fairy land now.
The IRS tax code and federal legislation says otherwise.
Come on

Syracuse, NY

#63 Apr 10, 2013
Irish_michael wrote:
Follow the money! Only one person profits from this not being built!
There's a charity for that?
Denied

Syracuse, NY

#64 Apr 12, 2013
what a lou sir wrote:
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The IRS tax code and federal legislation says otherwise.
Actually NFP Parasite People is right. Therefore, say goodnight Gracie.
what a lou sir

Herkimer, NY

#65 Apr 12, 2013
Denied wrote:
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Actually NFP Parasite People is right. Therefore, say goodnight Gracie.
Except that he is not. EDGE a different kind of NFP, not a 501(c)(3).

Yes, you should say good night. You've got lots of schooling to do.
Mike Sr

Utica, NY

#66 Apr 12, 2013
You guys need a life. Care about things you can't control. Go back to work at wal-mart
Progress Report

Syracuse, NY

#67 Apr 15, 2013
No crew there. Nada thing happening. Some muddy shyt in the waterloo.
Might be useful when demolition starts around there. Rats will wind up in the cesspool. Not our homes and businesses.
sorted

Clinton, NY

#68 Apr 16, 2013
a great resource
www.nysscpa.org
public ethics resource speaks of (but not limited to) the following for those interested.

Article III—Objectivity
Objectivity is a state of mind, a quality that lends value to a member’s services. It is a distinguishing
feature of the profession. The principle of objectivity imposes the obligation to be impartial,
intellectually honest, and free of conflicts of interest.
Members often serve multiple interests in many different capacities and must demonstrate their
objectivity in varying circumstances. Members render attest, tax, and management advisory
services as well as prepare financial statements in the employment of others, perform internal
auditing services, and serve in financial and management capacities in industry, education, and
government. They also educate and train those who aspire to admission into the profession.
Regardless of service or capacity, members should protect the integrity of their work, maintain
objectivity, and avoid any subordination of their judgment.
All members have the responsibility to maintain objectivity in rendering professional services.
Members employed by others to prepare financial statements or to perform auditing, tax, or
consulting services are charged with the same responsibility for objectivity as members who
perform attest services and must be scrupulous in their application of generally accepted
accounting principles and candid in all their dealings with members who perform external attest

Article VII—Independence
Independence precludes relationships that may impair or appear to impair a member’s objectivity in
rendering attestation services.
For a member rendering attest services, the maintenance of independence requires a continuing
assessment of client relationships and public responsibility. Such a member who provides auditing
and other attestation services should be independent in fact and appearance. In providing all other
services, a member should maintain objectivity and avoid conflicts of interest.
Although members who are employed in industry, academia, or other non-attest practice areas
cannot maintain the appearance of independence, they nevertheless have the responsibility to
maintain objectivity in rendering professional services. Members employed by others to prepare
financial statements or to perform internal auditing, tax, or consulting services are charged with the
same responsibility for objectivity as members who provide attest services and must be scrupulous
in their application of generally accepted accounting principles and candid in all their dealings with
members who act as third-party auditors.
_________

101-1—Knowing misrepresentations in the preparation of financial statements or records. A
member shall be considered to have knowingly misrepresented facts in violation of rule 101 when
he or she knowingly –
a. Makes, or permits or directs another to make, materially false and misleading entries in
an entity’s financial statements or records; or
b. Fails to correct an entity’s financial statements or records that are materially false and
misleading when he or she has the authority to record an entry; or
c. Signs, or permits or directs another to sign, a document containing materially false and
misleading information.

http://www.nysscpa.org/prof_library/codecondu...
Pete

Utica, NY

#69 Apr 25, 2013
Nice weather coming, POOL might be open soon.

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