Valley View run into the ground.

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Tom

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90 members? big sh+t...Claim revenue is up? duh..you are not comparing apples to apples when you compare th 90's to now. Prices are sky high now. What a waste of money this place is. Sell it Utica and get the political employees out of there.
Rael

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Let's see...the manager, Dominic Longo says membership has dropped. Well simply put because of him.
A new pro shop? It's six years old!!!

Rent a seat program? Chased away 60 percent of the membership.

No private carts? Chased away the seniors!

Raised membership fees? Great way to attract new members.

Watered fairways? 150K saved in six years! At that rate they'll have enough money by the year 2055. Great job Mr. Longo...if they abolish your job they could have water fairways by 2020. Now there is a bargain!

One more thing...new carts? Yeahhhh, oh not til next year? Then really it's not new then is it? It will be next year...right?

What a joke. Shame!
Utica food

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Who cares. The food is awesome anyway!!
Southside Johnny

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At least you can go out and golf now without the east utica " members" playing however they want , whatever holes they want, with as many golfers in a group as thay want. They could not care less about anybody else golfing except what was ever convenient for them Good riddance VV will be just fine
Rael

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All I'm looking at are the facts! Obviously Southside Johnny has problems with Italians, but that does not change the fact that people left Vally View for a variety of reasons as stated, but nost importantly...It's not fun there anymore.
Southside Johnny

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I am 100% ITAL as is my wife, these members were rude , if somebody did to them what they did to others there, they would have chased them off the course
Rael

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Doesn't change the facts Southside! The course is beautiful, but the current management has ruined it. It's supposed to be for the enjoyment of all! If nobody wants to go there and numbers are down then they are doing something wrong. It's obvious that what they are doing is not working. At least for the majority of the golfers. Like I said before it is a shame, and as long as the management there keeps their philosophy people will go elsewhere, revenues will continue to decrease and will be having fun elsewhere.
Truth

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Tom wrote:
90 members? big sh+t...Claim revenue is up? duh..you are not comparing apples to apples when you compare th 90's to now. Prices are sky high now. What a waste of money this place is. Sell it Utica and get the political employees out of there.
When I read that article the first thing that came to mind was that by this time last year the golf season was in full swing. Then it went well into the fall. That's why revenue was up. It was an unusually long season. We could see a weather turnaround this year but I doubt we'll see as many "golfable" days as last year. Then, next year we'll read that revenue was down.
jack the bear

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if it wasn't for john maraffa very close with the mayor longo would be delivering newspapers for the od then the useless golf commission giving a 3 year contract to longo another shame. those lies in todays paper more bs from longo. god couldn't get water fairways for 150,000 . new carts yes they will for next year when this contract runs out, but not now. the course was left by the proctors for the people of utica not longo or mayors who got elected
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Dominic is actually doing a good job. Play is down all over the country. The good news is the jerks went to Crestwood. The bad news is revenue is down. It is still the nicest course around due to Scott Christian. People forget this is a public course and the goal should be to break even and not lose money after upkeep and payroll.
With a little promoting to attract young people it will turn around.
jack the bear

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you really think longo is doing a good job. thats a joke 250 members down to 87. the jerks you refer to that went to crestwood put money in the cash register everyday & weekends double it at least.. those jerks where the only ones who spent money in the snackbar. longo was worried about them driving a cart on the grass to close to the green or hitting 2 golf balls play isn't down at crestwood
Nu golfer

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jack the bear wrote:
you really think longo is doing a good job. thats a joke 250 members down to 87. the jerks you refer to that went to crestwood put money in the cash register everyday & weekends double it at least.. those jerks where the only ones who spent money in the snackbar. longo was worried about them driving a cart on the grass to close to the green or hitting 2 golf balls play isn't down at crestwood
No they don't put money into the register everyday , they pay in the beginning of the year a 1000 dollars, then they play over a 100 + rounds for an average of $10 or less when valley view is getting $40 do the math .
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Bring Larry and Ralphie back.Oh wait Ralphie now hangs at Barnes ave with his binoculars he keeps in the front seat. Picking up lovers lowlife scum
Scratch

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jack the bear wrote:
you really think longo is doing a good job. thats a joke 250 members down to 87. the jerks you refer to that went to crestwood put money in the cash register everyday & weekends double it at least.. those jerks where the only ones who spent money in the snackbar. longo was worried about them driving a cart on the grass to close to the green or hitting 2 golf balls play isn't down at crestwood
I have been a member for many years and had to put up with that bunch - 6 somes, 4 carts on one hole, won't let players play through, rude, foul language etc. I have been in many confrontations with several of them.
It's not all of them but they think they owned the place. Driving carts all over ruining it for everyone else.
This is supposed to be a gentlemans game. The course is better off in the long run.
same old

Utica, NY

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Apr 28, 2013
 
Played sat. 4/27/13, paid $40.00, unreal, still have 5 somes playing, others skipping holes and playing where ever they want. Can't blame this on the golfers that went to Crestwood. This is the worst managed course I have played in years. They got my money for the last time.
BOb

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Apr 28, 2013
 
I agree, out of control
Lou

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Apr 28, 2013
 
Tom wrote:
90 members? big sh+t...Claim revenue is up? duh..you are not comparing apples to apples when you compare th 90's to now. Prices are sky high now. What a waste of money this place is. Sell it Utica and get the political employees out of there.
Every day play generates more revenue then the cheap ass members ever did. Prices are comparable with every other golf course around today. Do some research then do the math. Btw parking lot was full today.

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