Truth

Utica, NY

#44 Mar 21, 2014
rear view mirror wrote:
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We've all read your musings throughout the years. You seem to be the quintessential Monday morning quarterback. The type of person who (is now or has been) a State or Federal employee.All kinds of perks and benefits on the backs of the taxpayers (retirement, vacation, sick days, health insurance coverage) NICE! You've never had to make a payroll....worry about business utility cost....healthcare insurance..Taxes...etc.Let's do this.OK? Just imagine that as of today you've been duly appointed the director of the Stanley. There is no reverse or contingency budget, you have ZERO dollars to work with. What would you do right now to make the Stanley a viable destination for an entertainment seeking crowd. How do you fund it? Where does the money come from? 2609Tell us!
Are you sure you are talking about me? If you are then there is a serious reading comprehension problem. You are not only wrong in this post, you are 180 degrees wrong. I am the quintessential critic of big government, public sector unions(and their over the top benefits) and taxpayer funded schemes to prop up private sector business. I think you need to go back and read other opinions I've given.

As for the Stanley there was a previous thread that was a criticism of Jerry Kraus and his leadership. I responded that it wouldn't matter who was sitting in the director's office. The situation would be the same.

I have never, ever been a government employee. My entire career has been spent in the private sector in for-profit business with everything that goes along with that. I don't know how you could assume otherwise.

What would I do right now to fix the Stanley? I don't know. That's not my area of expertise. I think Jerry Kraus does have relevant experience and he is using that experience to do the best he can with what he has. It's a difficult row to hoe. What can the Stanley offer that the OIN venues can't? That's the key. Obviously the big Broadway style shows but the audience is limited. If they could have enough of those to support the Stanley then we would see more of them more often and there wouldn't be a financial problem.
Truth

Utica, NY

#45 Mar 21, 2014
concerts wrote:
More seating capacity? They are not filling the seats they have.
You did miss the point.

Bigger shows cost more money.

Bigger shows cost more per seat to put on.

Increased seating capacity brings down the price because lower(more affordable) prices attract more patrons and spreads the total cost over a larger audience.
Truth

Utica, NY

#46 Mar 21, 2014
Agree wrote:
<quoted text> I have not been to the one in Schenectady, but I prefer the Stanley to the Landmark or the Roc Aud.
I think the original point is that many New York communities have historic theaters. The Stanley is just not that unique. Nice, just not unique.
Mohawk Valley Riggies

Clifton Park, NY

#47 Mar 21, 2014
Truth wrote:
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I think the original point is that many New York communities have historic theaters. The Stanley is just not that unique. Nice, just not unique.
Exactly. Too many uticans view the Stanley as something special or unique. Like you said its nice but nothing unique.
Hello

Utica, NY

#48 Mar 21, 2014
There are two shows in the next five days there. Get out and support it. Also. If they did get the big shows, people around here, especially the 20 and 39 something's will pay top dollar to see it. That's a fact
Wondering

South New Berlin, NY

#50 Mar 21, 2014
Truth wrote:
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I think the original point is that many New York communities have historic theaters. The Stanley is just not that unique. Nice, just not unique.
I got the point. I prefer the Stanley and try to go to shows when I can. It would be a shame if the building just sat and deteriorated.
what kind of

Utica, NY

#51 Mar 21, 2014
What kind of re-tar ded p.o.s says stuff like "its time to shut the dors" or says all kinds of rotten things about that theatre. Shut yer mouth and say who you really are. so we know who to hate. either leave town or kill yourself...
Truth

Utica, NY

#52 Mar 22, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text> I got the point. I prefer the Stanley and try to go to shows when I can. It would be a shame if the building just sat and deteriorated.
It would also be a shame if this region went further in the toilet because of elected representatives spending taxpayer money on pet projects like the Stanley.

The Stanley should be treated like any other private business. It needs to sink or swim based on profitability/viability. If there are enough people in this region interested in what the Stanley has to offer then it will succeed. If there are those in the community who don't want the Stanley to fail then they should put up the money to save it and not advocate for or count on any more taxpayer dollars to prop it up. There are plenty of businesses that have failed in this area. I'm sure that before they failed many said " It would be a shame if the building just sat and deteriorated."
User

Utica, NY

#53 Mar 22, 2014
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>It would also be a shame if this region went further in the toilet because of elected representatives spending taxpayer money on pet projects like the Stanley.

The Stanley should be treated like any other private business. It needs to sink or swim based on profitability/viability. If there are enough people in this region interested in what the Stanley has to offer then it will succeed. If there are those in the community who don't want the Stanley to fail then they should put up the money to save it and not advocate for or count on any more taxpayer dollars to prop it up. There are plenty of businesses that have failed in this area. I'm sure that before they failed many said " It would be a shame if the building just sat and deteriorated."
How much of the aud renovation was funded with taxpayer money?
pisano

New Hartford, NY

#55 Mar 22, 2014
Fat Tony Salerno wrote:
My people are telling me that a consortium comprised of Peepers. BenGee's Downtown and a few other movers and shakers are planning to buy the Stanley and bring back old-school burlesque to Utica. Dancers, booze, fine dining and live bands. This could really give downtown a much needed shot in the arm.
Right! and BJ's in the back room?? I suppose. Or dancers with no pants on??
Wondering

South New Berlin, NY

#58 Mar 22, 2014
Truth wrote:
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It would also be a shame if this region went further in the toilet because of elected representatives spending taxpayer money on pet projects like the Stanley.
The Stanley should be treated like any other private business. It needs to sink or swim based on profitability/viability. If there are enough people in this region interested in what the Stanley has to offer then it will succeed. If there are those in the community who don't want the Stanley to fail then they should put up the money to save it and not advocate for or count on any more taxpayer dollars to prop it up. There are plenty of businesses that have failed in this area. I'm sure that before they failed many said " It would be a shame if the building just sat and deteriorated."
I happen to agree with you. But what should happen and what does happen with taxpayer monies are often two entirely different things. I have a feeling Uticans would rather pay to save a building with historical value vs an elected official having a car to take home! No matter, I'm just stating that I think the Stanley is a beautiful building, more elaborate than other local theatres (imo) and I support it when I can.
Wondering

South New Berlin, NY

#59 Mar 22, 2014
This region has a lot bigger problems concerning how taxpayer money is handled than the Stanley!
Fat Tony Salerno

Rochester, NY

#60 Mar 22, 2014
Truth wrote:
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Fans of Proctor's in Schenectady, The Landmark in Syracuse or the The Auditorium in Rochester might disagree. The previous poster is correct. Many communities have historic theaters.
The Eastman in Rochester. The Auditorium is kind of a dump.
Fat Tony Salerno

Rochester, NY

#61 Mar 22, 2014
pisano wrote:
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Right! and BJ's in the back room?? I suppose. Or dancers with no pants on??
Oh definitely pants-less. But no BJs. There are plenty of other venues around town for that sort of action. This would be a high end, classy jernt.
Truth

Utica, NY

#62 Mar 22, 2014
User wrote:
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How much of the aud renovation was funded with taxpayer money?
Too much
kissmyazz

Utica, NY

#63 Mar 23, 2014
Truth wrote:
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It would also be a shame if this region went further in the toilet because of elected representatives spending taxpayer money on pet projects like the Stanley.
The Stanley should be treated like any other private business. It needs to sink or swim based on profitability/viability. If there are enough people in this region interested in what the Stanley has to offer then it will succeed. If there are those in the community who don't want the Stanley to fail then they should put up the money to save it and not advocate for or count on any more taxpayer dollars to prop it up. There are plenty of businesses that have failed in this area. I'm sure that before they failed many said " It would be a shame if the building just sat and deteriorated."
I agree with you. This area is polluted with fund raisers and non profits. Why? It's a business formula that lines many pockets.
illegal activity

Schenectady, NY

#64 Mar 23, 2014
Does jerry krause not realize that he hires a sex offender to work under the table, at $14 an hour, to move sets and work back stage? How assuring is that for performers and children attendees? An investigation should be made asap.
Beerman

Utica, NY

#65 Mar 23, 2014
Went to the beer tasting event. Stanley was a great venue. Great job. Glad to help the Stanley and enjoy myself in the process. Will definitely go again when I get the chance
Truth be known

Utica, NY

#66 Mar 24, 2014
ANYBODY SAYING TAXPAYER MONEY IS A MORON!! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS IN MONEY THE TRIBE AND CHIEF BIG WAMPUM HAVE TO GIVE THE COUNTY EVERY YEAR. THIS IS PAY OFF MONEY THAT KEEPS THE COUNTY AND STATE FROM LETTING MORE CASINOS BE BUILT.
SO SHUT UP DUMB AZZ. THE COUNTY NEEDS TO STOP LINING PICENTES POCKETS AND GIVE UP THE DIRTY MONEY FROM THE CASINO TO A GOOD ORGANIZATION!!!
Truth be known

Utica, NY

#67 Mar 24, 2014
illegal activity wrote:
Does jerry krause not realize that he hires a sex offender to work under the table, at $14 an hour, to move sets and work back stage? How assuring is that for performers and children attendees? An investigation should be made asap.
who says jerry hires them. the stanley staff and the crew are not the same org. the crew is the local stagehands union so go after them idiot.

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