Raise minimum wage to $15 per hour.

Raise minimum wage to $15 per hour.

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not eating

Utica, NY

#1 May 1, 2013
I'm sick of this job I can't even eat. Nobody should have to work 40 hours and still not even be able to support themselves and have a little fun on the weekends.

Minimum wage should be $15 per hour minimum.

And don't tell me go to school or get educated because I'm already smart and don't need to hand over cash I don't even have for a piece of paper.

Level 2

Since: Apr 13

Albany, NY

#2 May 1, 2013
not eating wrote:
I'm sick of this job I can't even eat. Nobody should have to work 40 hours and still not even be able to support themselves and have a little fun on the weekends.
Minimum wage should be $15 per hour minimum.
And don't tell me go to school or get educated because I'm already smart and don't need to hand over cash I don't even have for a piece of paper.
Have you thought about construction?

Level 5

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#3 May 1, 2013
not eating wrote:
I'm sick of this job I can't even eat. Nobody should have to work 40 hours and still not even be able to support themselves and have a little fun on the weekends.
Minimum wage should be $15 per hour minimum.
And don't tell me go to school or get educated because I'm already smart and don't need to hand over cash I don't even have for a piece of paper.
You may be smart however you are IGNORANT when it comes to economics. Why not pay everyone $100 hour? Heck make it $1000 an hour! We'll all live like kings.....
Swag

Whitesboro, NY

#4 May 2, 2013
And what credentials do you have to justify $15 per hour? Education, professional experience? Or are you just one of those people that has made bad choice after bad choice and are now suffering the consequences and looking to blame everyone else for it?
living wage

Utica, NY

#5 May 2, 2013
No full-time job should pay less than a living wage.
seriously

Festus, MO

#6 Aug 1, 2013
not eating wrote:
I'm sick of this job I can't even eat. Nobody should have to work 40 hours and still not even be able to support themselves and have a little fun on the weekends.
Minimum wage should be $15 per hour minimum.
And don't tell me go to school or get educated because I'm already smart and don't need to hand over cash I don't even have for a piece of paper.
Obviously you do need an education. If employers doubles ever ones salary, what do you think they will have to do with the prices of products or services to continue making a profit? Do you really think companies will stay in business if they are not making a profit?
Tanker Driver

Utica, NY

#8 Aug 2, 2013
Many of those making minimum wage need food stamps, Medicaid WIC anyway so why not pay a living wage instead of subsidizing WalMart etc?
lift the people up

Fostoria, OH

#9 Aug 2, 2013
The only people against it are the greedy employers.
stone

Utica, NY

#10 Aug 2, 2013
this will create unemployment for lower skilled workers who do not rate $15 per hour and your job will be outsourced or replaced my a machine
steve

Clinton, NY

#11 Aug 2, 2013
Don't you know if they pay everyone 15 an hour,everything will go up as the supply of products is bought up,not to mention the places having to pay these wages will increase the prices of their products and your all back in an inflated price and your 15 an hour is not worth what you now make.also people on fixed incomes will suffer as they won't get the raises.More people will suffer than will benifit.If you bums want more money just apply your useless brains and get your lazy asses going to get a better job in life, don't inflate your income and cause inflation of prices to ruin it for everyone else
Think again

Utica, NY

#12 Aug 2, 2013
It's everyone's responsibility to do what they can to better themselves in this world! Nobody owes you anything! What credentials, experience or anything else do you bring to the table that you think you deserve to be paid more than minimum wage? Learn some skills at whatever job you're doing and make yourself valuable to your employer before you start bitching that you should be paid $15 an hour for a job that a monkey could probably do! The US is becoming a service economy because we are not at the top of the mountain with manufacturing anymore. The world economy is also changing.

It's YOUR responsibility to yourself to do what you can to better your situation! It's not the responsibility of anyone else to pay you more money, especially if you're not worth it! Detail some of your skills here and why you think you're worth more than minimum wage. What's your experience level? How long have you been in the workforce? What exactly do YOU bring to the table that makes you worth being paid more than you are?
Level 3

Since: Jul 12

Bradford, VT

#13 Aug 3, 2013
not eating wrote:
I'm sick of this job I can't even eat. Nobody should have to work 40 hours and still not even be able to support themselves and have a little fun on the weekends.
Minimum wage should be $15 per hour minimum.
And don't tell me go to school or get educated because I'm already smart and don't need to hand over cash I don't even have for a piece of paper.
what is your current job? I have my own business plus part time job on the side. As lot of people do part time or work on the side to earn extra money. Too many lazy people who want top dollar to fun a cash register or flip burgers but dont wanna do manual labor. Theres money to be made out there if people get off their lazy azzes and work for it.you have the same 24 hours each day that everyone else does. Obviously you need to make some changes.....

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Level 3

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#14 Aug 3, 2013
It should be raised to about $10/hr. Inflation has risen steadily over the years while the minimum wage has not. A lot of people dog on welfare recipients, but if those people who were never in a situation to get an education could make a descent wage, and make more than being on welfare, why not increase it to a reasonable amount?
Truth

Utica, NY

#16 Aug 5, 2013
lift the people up wrote:
The only people against it are the greedy employers.
Employers (businesses) don't exist to employ people. They exist to make money for their owners. That is their mission. Otherwise, why would anyone bother taking the chances necessary to start and run a business.

Since when is it the business of a business to make sure that its' employees make enough money to live a lifestyle that the employee believes he/she is entitled to?

If you don't like your job or how much you make then quit and find one that will pay what you think you are worth.

Raising the minimum wage to some false, indexed level is totally counter-productive and will end up costing jobs. That's just common sense.
Truth

Utica, NY

#17 Aug 5, 2013
What is your idea of what a job is worth?

Here's what I think.

I think that a job is worth the least amount that the most qualified candidate is willing to take. Think about that for a minute. If an employer offers less then they won't get qualified applicants. If an employer doesn't take care of current employees then they will experience higher turnover. Higher turnover costs money by way of constant training.

I don't think compensation should be based on what it costs someone to have a home, car, pets.......

Rule of thumb. The less people who are qualified to do a particular job the higher the compensation will be.
Reality

Antwerp, NY

#18 Aug 5, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Employers (businesses) don't exist to employ people. They exist to make money for their owners. That is their mission. Otherwise, why would anyone bother taking the chances necessary to start and run a business.
Since when is it the business of a business to make sure that its' employees make enough money to live a lifestyle that the employee believes he/she is entitled to?
If you don't like your job or how much you make then quit and find one that will pay what you think you are worth.
Raising the minimum wage to some false, indexed level is totally counter-productive and will end up costing jobs. That's just common sense.
While I agree with you post, I have to point out something that you didn't take into consideration. It's not secret that wages have been stagnant for decades while corporate profits have risen sharply over the same time period. The cost of living has also risen tremendously during the same time period. I still don't agree that the minimum wage should be raised to $15 per hour, but to disregard the facts about the buying power of the dollar of today vs. the buying power of the dollar 20-30 years ago is not a fair assessment of the situation. Which is why it's more important for people today to make themselves as valuable as possible to an employer because the bottom line is that is the only key to making a decent living, especially in the Utica area.
outside looking in

Mooresville, NC

#19 Aug 5, 2013
U think all minimum wage earners should quit and get on government programs, they would def make out better.and greedy employers would soon see there value.or close up shop.no buisness can sustain without quality people and a simple look at the gap between employer and employee income says it all. Greed is kiling our pnce great nation.i understand the risk.involved owning a buisness,as i have owned several but once the company is performing there is never a trickle down effect.just more greed
Truth

Utica, NY

#20 Aug 5, 2013
Reality wrote:
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While I agree with you post, I have to point out something that you didn't take into consideration. It's not secret that wages have been stagnant for decades while corporate profits have risen sharply over the same time period. The cost of living has also risen tremendously during the same time period. I still don't agree that the minimum wage should be raised to $15 per hour, but to disregard the facts about the buying power of the dollar of today vs. the buying power of the dollar 20-30 years ago is not a fair assessment of the situation. Which is why it's more important for people today to make themselves as valuable as possible to an employer because the bottom line is that is the only key to making a decent living, especially in the Utica area.
The labor market is what it is.
Simple supply and demand. If there were no people applying for the jobs then employers would have to raise the ante. It's up to the individual to make themselves more valuable and marketable. It's not up to the employer to provide any more compensation that is necessary to keep the doors open. In fact, and CEO who bases compensation on lifestyle rather than the value of a job should be fired.

Want to blame someone for the lack of good middle class jobs? Blame organized labor. It has been and continues to be the reason for loss of jobs in America.
Truth

Utica, NY

#21 Aug 5, 2013
outside looking in wrote:
U think all minimum wage earners should quit and get on government programs, they would def make out better.and greedy employers would soon see there value.or close up shop.no buisness can sustain without quality people and a simple look at the gap between employer and employee income says it all. Greed is kiling our pnce great nation.i understand the risk.involved owning a buisness,as i have owned several but once the company is performing there is never a trickle down effect.just more greed
No, I think that if minimum wage earners want more then they should do whatever it takes to make themselves more marketable and valuable. It isn't up to anyone but you to make a better life for you.

You call it greed. I call it doing what businesses are designed to do. Make money for the owner(s).

Ask yourself a question and answer honestly. What do you do that leads you to believe you are worth more compensation?
What if

New Hartford, NY

#22 Aug 5, 2013
the minimum wage was increased to $10-$15 per hour? What happens to those who started at minimum wage and worked their way up to $10-$15+/hr? They would all need raises too. So to say raise it to even $10/hr is not very bright. Minimum wage jobs aren't for trying to support a family. If that's the best job you can get...work 2. Sadly, I've seen the wage rates go down on some jobs needing skilled workers as the need for employment increased. Greedy employers who can have the pick of the litter for dirt pay. It's time big companies cut executive 6 figure bonuses and passed it down to employees and consumers. Doing away with 1 6 figure bonus could save lots of jobs. They have enough money already!

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