The Oneida Indians "REDSKINS" issue

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Diana Vickery

Cortland, NY

#1 Oct 29, 2013
Why is Ray Halbritter doing this now..? Have other Indian nations taken interest in this cause..we don;t seem to hear from them..If the issue is racial and so offensive to those of Indian decent I myself don't mind it..No one can fix all racial issues and yes this is a slur also..It represents only Indians..as they should be called.such as my self also..Why hasn't it become a national issue of racism promotion..WHY do the Oneida's have to undertake this themselves?

Did the Oneida casino turn a patron away wearing he Jersey like shirt? That was wrong..Until it's official to be removed as in reminder of as racial issues..You certainly in this day and age can't call a "team" the White skins..and not get anti something about it from whites..or the black skins..or the yellow skins..REDSKINS is the residue now of how easy that kind of racism was even though it was not intended to be..BUT whats ODD is the name Washington in front of it..The very core of where it all began..The Washington Warrior's would be more appropriate..The Cleveland Indians is fine..The Cleveland Redskins or black skins or white skins or yellow skins is NOT in this day and age I agree...But the name Washington Redskins IS a years old reminder of exactly how it all began..and by the 3rd US president who declared all men are created equal..BUT left out the clause of except blacks, Indians and women etc...It just so happened this team became so widely accepted for FOOTBALL..not racial equality...a sad reminder every day ..and for that reason I feel the name should stay...It's a HUGE appropriately named reminder of the contradictions and falsely established call of equal rights this country was built on.
Diana Vickery

Cortland, NY

#2 Oct 29, 2013
I believe is most certainly wrong NOW for the Oneida Indians to try and erase and ban this reminder of how it all began...and I am of Native American decent also..Who has a TAX card now to prove it. Indians should NOT erase all traces of the past...the Harriet Tubman home is also still standing..as Indian land deal after land deal issues go on everywhere still..Washington named us Redskins..and now you fight to regain your land..
Diana Vickery

Cortland, NY

#3 Oct 29, 2013
My point is you can't call someone in the White house a Redskin..but you can call them a warrior..The Oneida's should NOT have to do this..
mass army

New York Mills, NY

#4 Oct 29, 2013
Lets get thousands of REDSKINS Jerseys and people and have a march up at the casino! Suck it Halbritter. Does that offend you halby? It didn`t 20 years ago so why does it now? Grow a set would ya!
shadow

New Hartford, NY

#5 Oct 29, 2013
Ole Ray is using this to get his name in the news and establish himself as an Indian leader outside of Verona. It's all about Ray and has little to do with the name itself.
Well

Utica, NY

#6 Oct 29, 2013
It just so happens that Halbritter didn't initiate this move. It has been on going for years all over the country. It was just small ineffective movements that did not gain any attention, at least not here. Halbritter now has the means and clout to make it a larger, national movement. And since it's local, you, we, are more aware of it. Sure, not all Native Americans are offended by it and aren't on the bandwagon. Neither are all blacks concerning the " N " slur. That doesn't make it OK. When the Seals took down Bin Laden, their code word was Geronimo, just as WWII paratroopers. The tribe of the former Chief took exception to this. I personally don't think they should have because I take that to mean a tribute to a former powerful leader. However, everyone has their own interpretation of EVERYTHING. Obviously including you.
Freebie the Bean

Verona, NY

#7 Oct 29, 2013
Lets see how consistent his anger is from this by not addressing the Oriskany School District. Their sports name is also Redskins. Howcum no outrage? He paid the Cooperstown district to change their name with brand new uniforms. And the Redskins owner, Dan Snyder, has repeatedly stated he has NO intentions of changing the name.
Well

Utica, NY

#8 Oct 29, 2013
Years ago the Whitesboro Senior High School changed their logo, which was similar to that of the Wash Redskins, to the word "Warriors" in the center of their basketball court. Also, the Village of Whitesboro changed theirs, which was on their stationary and doors of all vehicles. Halbritter had nothing to do with either.
Well

Utica, NY

#9 Oct 29, 2013
Sorry, High School Has a " W " representing Warriors. My bad.
paleface

New Hartford, NY

#10 Oct 29, 2013
Well wrote:
It just so happens that Halbritter didn't initiate this move. It has been on going for years all over the country. It was just small ineffective movements that did not gain any attention, at least not here. Halbritter now has the means and clout to make it a larger, national movement. And since it's local, you, we, are more aware of it. Sure, not all Native Americans are offended by it and aren't on the bandwagon. Neither are all blacks concerning the " N " slur. That doesn't make it OK. When the Seals took down Bin Laden, their code word was Geronimo, just as WWII paratroopers. The tribe of the former Chief took exception to this. I personally don't think they should have because I take that to mean a tribute to a former powerful leader. However, everyone has their own interpretation of EVERYTHING. Obviously including you.
It was never stated that Ray initiated any of this--only that he is an opportunist using it as a means to draw attention to himself. Read carefully and stop drawing conclusions that are neither implied nor stated.
Diana Vickery

Cortland, NY

#11 Oct 29, 2013
Freebie the Bean wrote:
Lets see how consistent his anger is from this by not addressing the Oriskany School District. Their sports name is also Redskins. Howcum no outrage? He paid the Cooperstown district to change their name with brand new uniforms. And the Redskins owner, Dan Snyder, has repeatedly stated he has NO intentions of changing the name.
Is that true of Oriskany schools? the issue could be ad probably is that the Washington Redskins will get HIM national attention..and well...and if he wins there I am sure the schools will get hit next after all they are govt regulated..or maybe it's s school using it that should be protested by Oneidas first...then football..at a national level ..
Chief Long Hard Rod

Syracuse, NY

#12 Oct 29, 2013
Well wrote:
Years ago the Whitesboro Senior High School changed their logo, which was similar to that of the Wash Redskins, to the word "Warriors" in the center of their basketball court. Also, the Village of Whitesboro changed theirs, which was on their stationary and doors of all vehicles. Halbritter had nothing to do with either.
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Hmmm

Springfield, MA

#13 Oct 29, 2013
Good for the Oneidas. How would you like it if a high school team called itself The Wops, The Pollacks, or The Raging Rednecks?
Freebie the Bean

Verona, NY

#14 Oct 29, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
Good for the Oneidas. How would you like it if a high school team called itself The Wops, The Pollacks, or The Raging Rednecks?
Oh, get over it!!! You & Halbritter. I'm sure Uncle Ray is so indignent when he looks at his $200M a year tax free enterprise and feels he can buy & bribe any group, politician or power broker if somethings upsetting him. You must either work for him or be his shoe shine boy. A majority of Native Americans polled said this no big deal at all. Get a life, loser!
bud

Utica, NY

#15 Oct 29, 2013
You don't hear much about it but there's a group of ancient Greeks who have been trying to get New Hartford to change their name too.
Well

Utica, NY

#16 Oct 29, 2013
paleface wrote:
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It was never stated that Ray initiated any of this--only that he is an opportunist using it as a means to draw attention to himself. Read carefully and stop drawing conclusions that are neither implied nor stated.
Why is Ray Halbritter doing this now..? Have other Indian nations taken interest in this cause..we don;t seem to hear from them. WHY do the Oneida's have to undertake this themselves?

You better read it yourself. It states Halbritter is doing this now. Why do the Oneida's have to undertake this themselves? No interest from other nations. Putting this together, you tell us who it does state initiated it then!
Diana Vickery

Cortland, NY

#17 Oct 29, 2013
There is more opportunity to gamble in football then there is in public schools linked to govt..who also carry the Redskins logo as their image..So ask yourself why Halbritter and you are right it seems just Oneidas have a big issue with this logo at the national level that is...instead of removing it from public schools..
LOL

Utica, NY

#18 Oct 29, 2013
Have you considered that the Redskins lawsuit is part of the STARS OF ORION "Thrill of the Kill" master plan?
slapanut

Utica, NY

#19 Oct 29, 2013
Gonna go out and buy a Washington Redskins hoodie and baseball cap. Then I'm gonna head on over to the Turning Stone just to piss off some injuns. Let's see how long before they tell me to turn it inside out or leave.

I think everyone should do this.
an idea

East Granby, CT

#20 Oct 30, 2013
Keep the name.

Change the logo to a potato.

Problem solved.

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