mvcc nursing program
curious

West Sand Lake, NY

#1 Jul 23, 2013
Does the mvcc nursing program hair drug test?
Alice

Rome, NY

#2 May 9, 2014
I've hear that mvcc is losing their accreditation for their nursing program next yr.. Is this true?
Anonymous

Utica, NY

#3 May 11, 2014
Well ... it's not known, but it's not looking the best and here's why:

MVCC's Registered Nursing program is accredited by the Accreditation Commission for Education in Nursing (formerly the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission, which MV's sad excuse for a website still lists on their page http://www.mvcc.edu/about/accreditations ).

If you go to the ACEN's website ( http://acenursing.org/ ) and search for accredited programs you will find the following information for MVCC:

Accreditation Status:
Year of Initial Accreditation: June 1970

Continuing Accreditation:
Last Evaluation Visit: March 2007
Most Recent Action: July 2013
Next Evaluation Visit: Fall 2015 with Warning

The current status is "with Warning," which means that there are some significant issues that are trying to be fixed with the program. The reason for the "with Warning" remark is MV's first time NCLEX (aka "boards") pass rate has plummeted within recent years. If you Google "NYS NCLEX pass rates" you will find the following:

2009 - 84.4%
2010 - 74.0%
2011 - 76.1%
2012 - 65.3%

The 10.8% drop from 2011 to 2012 is what prompted the ACEN to come in and check up, rendering the "with Warning" decision. If you search the ACEN's website you'll find this tidbit about MV from the Spring 2013 accreditation cycle:

"Change the accreditation status to continuing accreditation with warning due to non-compliance with more than two (2) Accreditation Standards. Change the next accreditation site visit to the Fall 2015 Cycle." ( http://acenursing.org/spring-2013-accreditati... )

So, to be within compliance, MV's Registered Nursing program needs to get it's first time NCLEX pass rates up, which begs the question, how did they do in 2013. Well, on New York State's Office of the Profession's website, we can find out. For 2013, the rate was:

2013 - 60.0%

So, within the last five years, the first time pass rate has fallen 24.4%. Since the "with Warning" decision, it fell 5.3%.

At this point, it's safe to say that MV's Registered Nursing program isn't dead, but it's definitely on life support.

And if they ever lose the program .... they would probably lose a significant numbers of their students ... as they have probably about ~600 or so that are either in the clinical program itself or are taking prerequisites to get *into* the clinical program.
SandyAsia

Herkimer, NY

#4 May 12, 2014
Also, another major problem is that the administration (president, vp, etc) don't want educational standards to be difficult." Instead, they feel students are more like "customers" rather than students. Then, obviously, the standards go down because instructors are faced with the problem of catering to a customer service kind of education or losing their jobs. MVCC deserves whatever loss it gets. I know I wouldn't send my children there. It is sadly out of control at the place.

Also, I know I wouldn't want to receive care from someone who has been passes through a program and who lacks expertise. MV's whole academic system is struggling in this way. The college is deeply troubled, and I heard other things that are badly corrupt about what they do to employees.
spicy tuna roll

Whitesboro, NY

#5 May 12, 2014
My tuna roll needs a lookin at hiya!
Elle

Oneonta, NY

#6 Aug 25, 2014
Wow...60% pass rate??? That's really bad! The warning could not have come at a worse time because the NCLEX pass rates dropped last year nationally. I considered MVCC's nursing program so I could move back home, but decided to stick it out 1 more year in NYC and do an accelerated BSN program. The program I attended had a pass rate of around 90%, but that dropped into the 70's last year and administration went nuts!!! There was pretty much no way MV could have brought their stats up last year.

MVCC needs to just end the program already. Not only are the pass rates low, but they only produce ADN's. With most hospitals feeling the pressure to employ BSN grads, MVCC grads are getting hit with a 1-2 punch. I feel very sorry for people in that program!
mentor rudin

Westernville, NY

#7 Sep 20, 2014
Declining MVCC pass rates parallels overall decline in academic quality at MVCC. Increasingly, courses (including Science courses) are being taught by very poorly compensated adjuncts desperate for money and work. In theory, community colleges should be a great asset for the community. However, if you water-down the education, it loses its value, and more expensive options are in the long-term best interest of the students AND THE COMMUNITY.
SisterRegina

Utica, NY

#8 Sep 21, 2014
Students should consider StE's: solid, two year program. Test pass rates are higher than the 4 year UC program.
Elle

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Oct 21, 2014
SisterRegina wrote:
Students should consider StE's: solid, two year program. Test pass rates are higher than the 4 year UC program.
Unfortunately, the price tag for SECON is out of reach for many people...especially in the Utica area. To make matters worse, it only offers a 2 year degree which means people have to pay even more to finish their BSN (which is increasingly becoming the norm). Add to the problem that Utica hospitals pay absolutely TERRIBLE salaries for new grads!!! If they can't pay their nurses at least $50k to start, why go into debt that much for an education?
Joey

Turtlepoint, PA

#10 Oct 22, 2014
mentor rudin wrote:
Declining MVCC pass rates parallels overall decline in academic quality at MVCC. Increasingly, courses (including Science courses) are being taught by very poorly compensated adjuncts desperate for money and work. In theory, community colleges should be a great asset for the community. However, if you water-down the education, it loses its value, and more expensive options are in the long-term best interest of the students AND THE COMMUNITY.
When you have adjuncts that don't know enough to get out of the rain teaching kid that don't know enough to get out of the rain. You get real mush heads!!!!
local rn

Whitesboro, NY

#11 Oct 23, 2014
Actually this area is known to pay significantly more than surrounding areas ie Albany Syracuse, I know this because I have worked in all three cities. UC and St Elizabeth's both have good programs, I'm not confident in saying the St Es pass rate is better than UC I actually think it's the contrary. But if it is, 2 year programs historically do better than 4yr because it more clinically concentrated.
Hmmm

Utica, NY

#12 Oct 23, 2014
I could be very wrong, but I'm in the MV program and also know students who are in the St E's and UC program. I Personally feel the MV program is a good program, but it's cheaper and possibly easier to get into MV. So you end up with a bunch of young kids who have amazing gpa's because they took 3 general studies classes and got into the nursing programs, then most of them end up dropping out or not getting their license because they're not actually smart enough or dedicated enough to finish the program.
Dont_be_dramatic

Slingerlands, NY

#13 Oct 30, 2015
As a recent graduate I can tell you MVCC went to work and has quite possibly the best program in he area!! It's extremely difficult to get into and I've know so many students who go elsewhere becaus MVCC would not take them. I don't know what the program was like previously before I graduated but I can tell you that since the fall of 2013, they completely stepped their game up! Need not worry, 2015 pass rates will be posted soon and we will see who the smartest of them all is when this class is almost completely employed and payed only a small fraction to get the same degree and qualification as those who payed the big price tag! Guess full of mush hahahaha
Who_will_take_me

Utica, NY

#14 Oct 30, 2015
Hmmm wrote:
I could be very wrong, but I'm in the MV program and also know students who are in the St E's and UC program. I Personally feel the MV program is a good program, but it's cheaper and possibly easier to get into MV. program.
. UC accepts anybody. It's an open admission school. Maybe not for nursing, but for health studies.
UC grad

New Paltz, NY

#15 Nov 1, 2015
Obviously you know nothing because UC's nursing program is highly selective. Their health studies is where the rejects fall. Get your facts straight.
Who_will_take_me wrote:
<quoted text>. UC accepts anybody. It's an open admission school. Maybe not for nursing, but for health studies.

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