Rot In Pieces

Camillus, NY

#83 Feb 9, 2013
Satan take your pimping corp Perta worship you Lucifer.
Rot In Pieces

Camillus, NY

#84 Feb 9, 2013
Breaking news ! 25 worms taken to hospital after screams were heard in perti pygmy coffins.
Rot In Pieces

Camillus, NY

#85 Feb 9, 2013
Reports are worms ingested to much pork fat and tested positive.
hmmmm

New Hartford, NY

#86 Feb 9, 2013
CoopJockey wrote:
More to the point: I worked with Petra and her family for several years. Note that she was CHARGED with a crime, not convicted. Perhaps she was charged because she inadvertently failed to keep her child safe from a pedophile. You don't know. I used to work at CPS, and if something happened while she wasn't home, she would still be charged as she is their guardian. Since she did have a prior record (for stealing baby clothes for her children), CPS already has judged her, as have the police.
Secondly, I have witnessed first hand how she took care of her children. Her home was always clean, she cooked for them constantly, and had very little time for herself.
Granted it's obvious her choice in men was terrible, but I can tell you that she was a good mother. Absolutely not the best, but given her circumstances, she was good, compared to most "welfare moms," as you uneducated people refer to them.
Does anyone else know how easy it is to raise 5 children on your own?
She was NOT given her day in court. A jury of her peers did NOT convict of her of anything.
I believe that most of you here don't even have your GEDs, nor do you intend to get one. Most of you are probably leeching off the system, while you condemn this woman. Our constitution says we are innocent until proven guilty. How many of you actually KNEW her? How many of you actually saw her raise her children? How many of you saw her searching for her son if he missed his curfew? How many of you saw her make sure her son got on the basketball team and went to his games?
Probably none of you.
With all due respect, she should have stopped after the birth of her first child if she could not afford them! Hopefully her children will be placed with a loving family who wants them for more than what a pimp or welfare check and food stamps will provide for them.
Rot In Pieces

Camillus, NY

#87 Feb 9, 2013
The fork trainer calls to his abusers.
hmmmm

New Hartford, NY

#88 Feb 9, 2013
CoopJockey wrote:
Oh, so you work with the schools, you say? Well, you're obviously illiterate as well as uninformed.
What does "how you get she a great mom" mean in ghetto talk? I'll tell you precisely what it means. Go back to school and learn how to read and write. Also, I never said she was a great mom. I clearly pointed out mistakes that she's made, while also pointing out that she tried very hard, as I've witnessed it.
I spent 3-5 days per week in that house, and they were UNEXPECTED visits. Granted this was a couple of years ago, but I saw what I saw.
What exactly did you see? What, besides rumor, do you know? Do you have facts to back up your case? Or just ghetto rumor? No facts? I thought so.
She never had her day in court. She wasn't convicted of any type of sexual abuse by a jury of her peers.
As for "her son in good shepards in a gang has open cases," ~ Do you know how to say that in English?
If you're saying Raymond is in a gang, that's unfortunate. Petra moved close to the Parkway to try to prevent this. She was afraid that that's what could happen. That said, when he missed his curfew, she went out looking for him. You can't blame his mother for him being in a gang. That whole shit-hole of Utica is full of gangs. And if he's in The House of the Good Shepherd, it doesn't mean she completely failed as a parent. It means she needed help.
You can argue all you want, but it's obvious you didn't know her or her children, or her family life very well.
If you are a case worker or whatever they call them now, you are a typical example of why the system does not work because you obviouly do not know what to look for when making "unexpected visits." How many children in NYS alone have died at the hand of parents/step-parents/foster-pa rents, etc. because the home-visits went so well?
yeah right

Boston, MA

#89 Feb 9, 2013
CoopJockey wrote:
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Interesting. She was receptive to services from my agency. She did the best she could with the tools she had. Just because she wasn't able to turn her life around like many can and do, doesn't mean she was evil and deserves such condemnation. If for example, one quits high school and then chooses to go back, that's great. Petra didn't have the tools yet to make a better life for her and her children, but she DID try and I witnessed it first hand time and time again. Unless you yourself have never made mistakes and/or tried to correct them, and have perfect children, who are YOU to judge? How would you specifically stop the cycle of poverty, abuse and crime? I left "ignorance" out, because it's obvious that telling people they make you sick is your way. Do you think people should automatically accept help? Because here's the thing ~ People like this have had service providers in one form or another in their homes for years and are afraid of having their children taken away, and likely have at one point or another. How would they trust your "help"? People like you demand respect from people, without earning it from people you may work with. What gives you the right to demand respect from ANYONE? This is part of the problem I see with many agencies ~ people demanding respect and pulling the "authority" card, when they haven't done one damn thing to deserve an iota of respect.
Did the best she could with the tools she had ? Are you joking ? She had a lot of tools but she kept shoving them between her legs ! Scumbag ho that raised more scumbag kids that will be just like her !! By the way, did you fail at your job ? Maybe if you did your job better she would still be alive ! And as far as her kids reading this I doubt they can even read. Sure does not like the kind of mother that sat home helping her kids with homework. They were both scumbags and I just wish she died 4 kids ago !!!!
CoopJockey

Cooperstown, NY

#90 Feb 9, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
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With all due respect, she should have stopped after the birth of her first child if she could not afford them! Hopefully her children will be placed with a loving family who wants them for more than what a pimp or welfare check and food stamps will provide for them.
Agreed. I don't think anyone should have children if they can't afford to take care of them.
CoopJockey

Cooperstown, NY

#91 Feb 9, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
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If you are a case worker or whatever they call them now, you are a typical example of why the system does not work because you obviouly do not know what to look for when making "unexpected visits." How many children in NYS alone have died at the hand of parents/step-parents/foster-pa rents, etc. because the home-visits went so well?
I'm not a caseworker, but was a CPS caseworker years ago prior to graduate school. Since you don't know what I do, your judgement is uneducated and invalid.

As to your question, I would add, how many children DON'T die at the hands of parents/step-parents/foster parents, etc. because of home visits done by various service providers? I would hazard to guess that without the caseworkers that you are patronizing toward, there would be many more fatalities.

Good questions.
black who

United States

#92 Feb 10, 2013
To the cps worker...did u know alphonso washington?
thatjerry

Rome, NY

#93 Feb 10, 2013
Is a rapist case closed.my friend dont lie .she was afraid of that sick mofo.im glaf hes dead too bad he hurt to many people .dead or alive he was always a rapist. Why would the dsughter lie.u people are .heartless.hes burning in hel where he needs to be.no loss there
hmmmm

New Hartford, NY

#94 Feb 10, 2013
CoopJockey wrote:
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I'm not a caseworker, but was a CPS caseworker years ago prior to graduate school. Since you don't know what I do, your judgement is uneducated and invalid.
As to your question, I would add, how many children DON'T die at the hands of parents/step-parents/foster parents, etc. because of home visits done by various service providers? I would hazard to guess that without the caseworkers that you are patronizing toward, there would be many more fatalities.
Good questions.
Well my point is, just because she had a clean house and fed her kids, does not make her a good mother. A good mother would not have let abusive men around her children. Children do not have to die at the hands of their abusers and neglectors, and I think her children are a typical example.
CoopJockey

Cooperstown, NY

#95 Feb 10, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
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Well my point is, just because she had a clean house and fed her kids, does not make her a good mother. A good mother would not have let abusive men around her children. Children do not have to die at the hands of their abusers and neglectors, and I think her children are a typical example.
I don't think she knew that guy was a pedophile. Unless she changed drastically in the last two years since I've seen her, and unless she completely snowed me during the three years I did work with her, there's no way in heck she would have allowed those kids around a pedophile. I've worked with families in the ghettos for 15 years. She stood out as different. If she thought for a second that the kids were in danger, she would have laid down her life for them. Again, unless things changed drastically from when I saw her last.

She didn't deserve 5 bullets for not being a great mom. Sometimes in the ghetto, we can only hope for "good enough" anyway.
what else is new

Utica, NY

#96 Feb 10, 2013
She got mixed up with an animal and paid the price.
Rot In Pieces

Camillus, NY

#97 Feb 10, 2013
CoopJockey wrote:
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I don't think she knew that guy was a pedophile. Unless she changed drastically in the last two years since I've seen her, and unless she completely snowed me during the three years I did work with her, there's no way in heck she would have allowed those kids around a pedophile. I've worked with families in the ghettos for 15 years. She stood out as different. If she thought for a second that the kids were in danger, she would have laid down her life for them. Again, unless things changed drastically from when I saw her last.
She didn't deserve 5 bullets for not being a great mom. Sometimes in the ghetto, we can only hope for "good enough" anyway.
Its truly sad you and your family were not their so all you worthless scum could have bleed to death together.
Response

Utica, NY

#98 Feb 10, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
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Well my point is, just because she had a clean house and fed her kids, does not make her a good mother. A good mother would not have let abusive men around her children. Children do not have to die at the hands of their abusers and neglectors, and I think her children are a typical example.
First off: Petra's child did not die so you are way off. Second, unless you are a child care expert (and I doubt you are) what constitutes being a "good mother"? Petra made mistakes. She made grave mistakes which caused her, amongst her other punishments, to lose her life. Unless your mom was Mother Theresa, I bet you your mother wasn't perfect either. Thirdly, "a good mother would not have let abusive men around their daughter". Oh really ????? So every mother of every child killed by a scumbag abuser is guilty of their death???? You are obviously a blowhard and bigot and that is probably two of your better qualities. Hindsight is twenty-twenty and you are bat shit blind.
CoopJockey

Cooperstown, NY

#99 Feb 10, 2013
Response wrote:
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First off: Petra's child did not die so you are way off. Second, unless you are a child care expert (and I doubt you are) what constitutes being a "good mother"? Petra made mistakes. She made grave mistakes which caused her, amongst her other punishments, to lose her life. Unless your mom was Mother Theresa, I bet you your mother wasn't perfect either. Thirdly, "a good mother would not have let abusive men around their daughter". Oh really ????? So every mother of every child killed by a scumbag abuser is guilty of their death???? You are obviously a blowhard and bigot and that is probably two of your better qualities. Hindsight is twenty-twenty and you are bat shit blind.
Take the time to read the entire thread. You've misinterpreted "Hmmmmm's" post. He's certainly not saying children should die. If you read up-thread, you will see.

IF a parent KNOWINGLY allows a pedophile around her child, and that child is killed as a result, ABSOLUTELY that mother is as guilty as the pedophile is. Obviously I'm not talking about Petra's case here because the daughter's not dead, nor would Petra have knowingly put her child at risk of rape. Same for other types of abuse. If a parents knows about the perpetrator's abuse history and lets the kids around him, she's just as guilty. Period.

The only people on this site who are glad that Petra is dead are the ones stomping on her memory, calling her offensive names, etc. You know who I mean, and I'm not sure you're one of them.
Opimp

Camillus, NY

#100 Feb 10, 2013
CoopJockey wrote:
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Take the time to read the entire thread. You've misinterpreted "Hmmmmm's" post. He's certainly not saying children should die. If you read up-thread, you will see.
IF a parent KNOWINGLY allows a pedophile around her child, and that child is killed as a result, ABSOLUTELY that mother is as guilty as the pedophile is. Obviously I'm not talking about Petra's case here because the daughter's not dead, nor would Petra have knowingly put her child at risk of rape. Same for other types of abuse. If a parents knows about the perpetrator's abuse history and lets the kids around him, she's just as guilty. Period.
The only people on this site who are glad that Petra is dead are the ones stomping on her memory, calling her offensive names, etc. You know who I mean, and I'm not sure you're one of them.
Talk about above and beyond the job, was the ho giving you free lip service or did she let you spend time with the daughters at night and they serviced you. What about door number three, a section 8 family member that made it past 10th grade ?.

The only people who miss her were getting serviced. WKTV had three comments, WOW. Nice arrest pic.

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Wow

Camillus, NY

#101 Feb 10, 2013
That is one disgusting looking h o.
glug glug

Camillus, NY

#102 Feb 10, 2013
Holy cow batman that is the nastiest thing I have ever seen.

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