Food Stamps at McDonalds?

Food Stamps at McDonalds?

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Marijuana Man

New Hartford, NY

#1 Sep 7, 2011
Four states allow food stamps to be used at restaurants. Now, the restaurant parent company of Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, KFC and Long John Silvers is lobbying the government to make the practice more widespread.

According to USA TODAY, the number of businesses approved to accept food stamps grew by a third from 2005 to 2010, U.S. Department of Agriculture records show, as vendors from convenience and dollar discount stores to gas stations and pharmacies increasingly joined the growing entitlement program.

Now, restaurants, which typically have not participated in the program, are lobbying for a piece of the action.

Louisville-based Yum! Brands, whose restaurants include Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silver's and Pizza Hut, is trying to get restaurants more involved, federal lobbying records show.

That's a prospect that anti-hunger advocates welcome, but one that worries some current food stamp vendors and public health advocates.

Federal rules generally prohibit food stamp benefits, which are distributed under the USDA's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), from being exchanged for prepared foods. Yet a provision dating to the 1970s allows states to allow restaurants to serve disabled, elderly and homeless people, USDA spokeswoman Jean Daniel said.

Between 2005 and 2010, the number of businesses certified in the SNAP program went from about 156,000 to nearly 209,000, according to USDA data.

There is big money at stake. USDA records show food stamp benefits swelled from $28.5 billion to $64.billion in that period.

Four states accept restaurants, with Florida the most recent to begin a program.

"It makes perfect sense to expand a program that's working well in California, Arizona and Michigan, enabling the and disabled to purchase prepared meals with SNAP benefits in a restaurant environment," Yum! spokesman Jonathan Blum said.

The National Restaurant Association supports Yum!, said spokeswoman Katie Laning Niebaum, but the National Association of Convenience Stores does not.

"If the pie's only so big, nobody's going to want to see the pie sliced thinner," said Convenience Stores spokesman Jeff Lenard. "I'm not sure that's in the best interest of public health."

Kelly Brownell, director of Yale's Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity, says encouraging more fast-food consumption is not good for people's health. "It's preposterous that a company like Yum! Brands would even be considered for inclusion in a program meant for supplemental nutrition."

"They think going hungry is better?" counters Edward Cooney of the Congressional Hunger Center. "I'm solidly behind what Yum! is doing."
Marijuana Man

New Hartford, NY

#2 Sep 7, 2011
The dollar menu will be my new home cooking.
ZEKE

Cortland, NY

#3 Sep 7, 2011
Marijuana Man wrote:
Four states allow food stamps to be used at restaurants. Now, the restaurant parent company of Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, KFC and Long John Silvers is lobbying the government to make the practice more widespread.
According to USA TODAY, the number of businesses approved to accept food stamps grew by a third from 2005 to 2010, U.S. Department of Agriculture records show, as vendors from convenience and dollar discount stores to gas stations and pharmacies increasingly joined the growing entitlement program.
Now, restaurants, which typically have not participated in the program, are lobbying for a piece of the action.
Louisville-based Yum! Brands, whose restaurants include Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silver's and Pizza Hut, is trying to get restaurants more involved, federal lobbying records show.
That's a prospect that anti-hunger advocates welcome, but one that worries some current food stamp vendors and public health advocates.
Federal rules generally prohibit food stamp benefits, which are distributed under the USDA's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), from being exchanged for prepared foods. Yet a provision dating to the 1970s allows states to allow restaurants to serve disabled, elderly and homeless people, USDA spokeswoman Jean Daniel said.
Between 2005 and 2010, the number of businesses certified in the SNAP program went from about 156,000 to nearly 209,000, according to USDA data.
There is big money at stake. USDA records show food stamp benefits swelled from $28.5 billion to $64.billion in that period.
Four states accept restaurants, with Florida the most recent to begin a program.
"It makes perfect sense to expand a program that's working well in California, Arizona and Michigan, enabling the and disabled to purchase prepared meals with SNAP benefits in a restaurant environment," Yum! spokesman Jonathan Blum said.
The National Restaurant Association supports Yum!, said spokeswoman Katie Laning Niebaum, but the National Association of Convenience Stores does not.
"If the pie's only so big, nobody's going to want to see the pie sliced thinner," said Convenience Stores spokesman Jeff Lenard. "I'm not sure that's in the best interest of public health."
Kelly Brownell, director of Yale's Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity, says encouraging more fast-food consumption is not good for people's health. "It's preposterous that a company like Yum! Brands would even be considered for inclusion in a program meant for supplemental nutrition."
"They think going hungry is better?" counters Edward Cooney of the Congressional Hunger Center. "I'm solidly behind what Yum! is doing."
if you can afford to take out your family or yourself YOU HAVE NO RIUGHT TO FOOD STAMPS PERIOD!!!!!!! some people really need them!!!
free

Rome, NY

#4 Sep 7, 2011
The only place that needs to accept them is KFC and watermelon hut.
Jawsaw

United States

#5 Sep 7, 2011
You are confused on this matter.The ONLY people that can use foodstamps at restaurants for prepared meals are as stated in the article, "disabled, elderly and homeless people". They are not talking about anyone on disability. They are talking about severly disabled people who cannot prepare thier own meals. So rather than making them starve or paying someone to prepare their meals they can go to a participatig restuarant and gte a meal. Same thing with certain eldrly people. As far as homeless people, what good is it going to do to make a homeless person gethamburg, and pattoes, etc.. if he has no kitchen to cook it in?
They arent talking about allowing everyone who gets foodstaps to go to Mcdonald's etc...
Now I agree that the MAJORITY of people on welfare probably shouldn't be getting it. I also agree that it is abused WAY too much.I am not defending it because I am actually in favor of things like mandatory birth control and drug tests for welfare recipients. However this is not talking about the majority of people getting foodstamps, only certain disabled, elderly and homeless people.
DRN
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Since: Jun 08

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#6 Sep 7, 2011
I completely understand the rationale behind giving the disabled, elderly and homeless easier access to meals, but I have to wonder about the wisdom of the government pushing fast food on people when in other quarters it tells us we must eat healthier and that health care costs rise because of unhealthy eating habits.
NYSPC

Rome, NY

#7 Sep 7, 2011
Doesn't meals on wheels, which is already well established help people who can't or have a hard time cooking for themselves, help.
Anonymous

Herkimer, NY

#8 Sep 7, 2011
You know what...fricken good...at least now when they get $200.00 the can go spend it in the same place they always spent it and not have to sell them for .25 on the dollar for cash...Gos bless...go in peace...do you want fry's with that...
Anonymous

Herkimer, NY

#9 Sep 7, 2011
You are an idiot if you think you can eat healthy on food stamps...they just aren't enough...you buy cheap crappy food trying to stretch it as far as you can...its gotta last all month...wake up man...
Pink thongs

New Hartford, NY

#10 Sep 7, 2011
I think that eating McDonald's as opposed to not eating a hot meal at all is understandable regardless of the nutritional value. Trust me, after a week of that crap even the disabled will find the strength to get up and broil a piece of fish.
Tom Bruso Epic Beard Man

Rochester, NY

#11 Sep 7, 2011
Odd how you can get a sub made at the deli of a store on foodstamps, but not a hot fresh cooked Rotisseire chicken
DRN
Level 6

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#14 Sep 7, 2011
todt wrote:
There is nothing shameful about receiving foodstamp benefits. 1.8 million private sector jobs have been lost so far during Obama's term. People with undergraduate degrees, masters degrees and phds are out of work. Those people have to eat. There's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to enjoy a meal at a restaurant just like everybody else. It's not their fault that they're unemployed. We have a president who is reckless with spending who wants to exapnd the role of government to that of a Scoialist country.
I have no conflict with what you said about the economy, but do you consider President Moron Bush to be responsible in his spending of the national cash after taking over from a President & Congress who had a balanced budget?

You'd be much more credible, and much more accurate, if you wouldn't try and blame one side or the other for our economic problems. It has been all of them, in one way or another.
Diana Vickery

Fitchburg, MA

#15 Sep 7, 2011
If an ape is paradoxical to the car commercial paradigm, does the circumference of an orange relate to 69? My birthdate 5-13 is the reflefection of 13-5 which is the Red Sox score.
DRN
Level 6

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#17 Sep 7, 2011
Diana Vickery wrote:
If an ape is paradoxical to the car commercial paradigm, does the circumference of an orange relate to 69? My birthdate 5-13 is the reflefection of 13-5 which is the Red Sox score.
You sound just like her. I'm seriously worried about you now.
Yeah Right

New Hartford, NY

#19 Sep 7, 2011
todt wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush was 3+ years ago. I'm looking at the last 2 years. Why dwell on the past when there are much bigger problems in the current admininistration.
It takes more than a term to undo what Bush did to us. How quickly we forget.
Bush was smart

New Hartford, NY

#20 Sep 7, 2011
He hyped us up after 9-11 so much that he took us to war based on lies. We were so focused on our killing Sudaam and our children dying that we didnt pay attention to how he was screwing us financially. We only took notice when gas went to 4 bucks a gallon but by then he had already set us up for finacial ruins.
DRN
Level 6

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#21 Sep 7, 2011
todt wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama said he was going to fix all the messes left by Bush and create jobs with his stimulus package, which he didn't do. He has ratcheted up 4 trillion dollars in debt in just 2 years, which is how much debt Bush added to the deficit in 8 years. 1.8 million private sector jobs have been lost, and yet nearly 500,000 government jobs have been added. America's credit rating has been downgraded which hurts our economic standing all over the world. Obama's answer to all of this is to continue spending and increasing the size of government. The guy is living in a bubble. If Obama had his way he would keep spening money until the government RAN OUT of money...then what?
And I remind you that it wasn't the Democrats responsible for holding up the raising the debt level and prompting the drop in the national credit rating. Care to guess who did that?
Sweet Baby Tea

Apopka, FL

#22 Sep 8, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
You are an idiot if you think you can eat healthy on food stamps...they just aren't enough...you buy cheap crappy food trying to stretch it as far as you can...its gotta last all month...wake up man...
OMG! Are you serious? This lady (co workers ex girlfriend)gets $700.00 a month in food stamps. She takes her card to this bent and dent store where she purchases $400.00 in cigarettes which she sells for drug money. Then she uses the other $300.00 to feed her three kids. I guess when you look at it, it isnít enough, you can only stretch $300.00 so far.I have a family of 5 and I don't spend half that and we eat just fine. You need to wake up.
Sweet Baby Tea

Apopka, FL

#23 Sep 8, 2011
OMG! Are you serious? This lady (co workers ex girlfriend)gets $700.00 a month in food stamps. She takes her card to this bent and dent store where she purchases $400.00 in cigarettes which she sells for drug money. Then she uses the other $300.00 to feed her three kids. I guess when you look at it, it isnít enough, you can only stretch $300.00 so far.I have a family of 5 and I don't spend half that and we eat just fine. You need to wake up.
Yankee

Brooklyn, NY

#25 Sep 8, 2011
Jawsaw wrote:
You are confused on this matter.The ONLY people that can use foodstamps at restaurants for prepared meals are as stated in the article, "disabled, elderly and homeless people". They are not talking about anyone on disability. They are talking about severly disabled people who cannot prepare thier own meals. So rather than making them starve or paying someone to prepare their meals they can go to a participatig restuarant and gte a meal. Same thing with certain eldrly people. As far as homeless people, what good is it going to do to make a homeless person gethamburg, and pattoes, etc.. if he has no kitchen to cook it in?
They arent talking about allowing everyone who gets foodstaps to go to Mcdonald's etc...
Now I agree that the MAJORITY of people on welfare probably shouldn't be getting it. I also agree that it is abused WAY too much.I am not defending it because I am actually in favor of things like mandatory birth control and drug tests for welfare recipients. However this is not talking about the majority of people getting foodstamps, only certain disabled, elderly and homeless people.
I'd like to know how they intend to enforce this. Will the EBT cards be encoded to allow 'this' person to use it for fast food purchases but not 'that' person?

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