City Responds to HUD
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Stu

Far Rockaway, NY

#1 Dec 7, 2012
http://www.uticaod.com/latestnews/x2105849111...

Okay, OD, who were the recipients/beneficiaries of this money and is the city going to them to fund the payback? Can you go a little deeper in the reporting?
Bob Woodword

Herkimer, NY

#2 Dec 7, 2012
Stu wrote:
http://www.uticaod.com/latestn ews/x2105849111/City-responds- to-HUD-audit
Okay, OD, who were the recipients/beneficiaries of this money and is the city going to them to fund the payback? Can you go a little deeper in the reporting?
How much HUD money was used on the old Herbowy homestead on the corner of York St and Old Burrstone Rd?
whooh whooh

Carthage, NY

#3 Dec 7, 2012
its clear in te applaction how the money is to be used and the people who signed the contracts knew the money was not to be used for inside projects and they should return the money they have been in business for a long time and prob has a nice bank account thanks to hud so get the money back from the recipients i dont care what utica leaders say the recipients knew what they where signing and didnt fullfill the agreement that they signed no one made them sign the contract by gun point they knew what the money was to be used for it clearly states the rules at cityofutica.com and in the agreements and the news even reported the hud moneys and the agreements that had to be fullfilled these people who are the recipients where not seeked out by utica leaders they came on their own free will and filled out the forms the tax payers should not be liable for someones mistakes
Honestly

New Hartford, NY

#4 Dec 7, 2012
At the very least those responsible should be fired immediately. Criminal prosecution would be ideal.
boobie

Gouverneur, NY

#5 Dec 8, 2012
Who got the money? Easy, whoever was buddy's with bob Sullivan. He's the biggest thief of them all and that's an accomplishment.
Stu

Far Rockaway, NY

#7 Dec 8, 2012
It should be published who were the recipients of the misappropriated money. OD please FOIL it and publish, so that a process can begin to collect the misapplied money from the recipients (who in all likelihood are related/connected to whoever in Utica administrated it) rather than the Utica taxpayer.
More Utica Corruption

Syracuse, NY

#8 Dec 8, 2012
There are probably a few folks who should go to prison for this one. But McNamara will never prosecute, our corrupt judges will permit him to continue engaging in discriminatory prosecutions and all the idiots around here will re-elect every single one of them.

Roefaro is scum, LaBella is scum, Palmieri is scum, Meola is scum, McNamara is scum, Donalty is scum, Dwyer is scum, Balzano is scum and Eannace is queer.
duke

Herkimer, NY

#9 Dec 8, 2012
Stu wrote:
http://www.uticaod.com/latestn ews/x2105849111/City-responds- to-HUD-audit
Okay, OD, who were the recipients/beneficiaries of this money and is the city going to them to fund the payback? Can you go a little deeper in the reporting?
The mayor should fire any department head who is involved in this miss-use of public money including whoever in the law office sanctioned this. Anyone who worked on this should be required to provide the necessary documentation so that we can make those who got the money pay back the CDBG money. Then they should be reprimanded and suspended without pay. We should halt all payments to anyone for anything until a full audit of this situation is complete. There should be an internal auditor on the city payroll not a connected outside contractor who might be controlled at all. Any department head hired by the city should have a financilal background college degree and be able to prove that they can handle their own money as well as the publics money. Everyone should be working on this except the city grant writer. We do have a city grant writer on staff. Don't we? I hope so.
duke

Herkimer, NY

#10 Dec 8, 2012
The above post wd on the OD webite at the comment section but was deleeted once and posted agian. We will see is it gets ulled again.
duke

Herkimer, NY

#11 Dec 8, 2012
Honestly wrote:
At the very least those responsible should be fired immediately. Criminal prosecution would be ideal.
Fired immediately and issue a press release saying Mayor Rob was not involved and that these practices will not be tolerated in this city administration. Say it! "This type of graft and corruption will not be tolerated any longer in Utica New York."
duke

Herkimer, NY

#12 Dec 8, 2012
duke wrote:
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The mayor should fire any department head who is involved in this miss-use of public money including whoever in the law office sanctioned this. Anyone who worked on this should be required to provide the necessary documentation so that we can make those who got the money pay back the CDBG money. Then they should be reprimanded and suspended without pay. We should halt all payments to anyone for anything until a full audit of this situation is complete. There should be an internal auditor on the city payroll not a connected outside contractor who might be controlled at all. Any department head hired by the city should have a financilal background college degree and be able to prove that they can handle their own money as well as the publics money. Everyone should be working on this except the city grant writer. We do have a city grant writer on staff. Don't we? I hope so.
This comment was posted twice on the OD website but was not allowed to be published. What is wrong with this comment?
whooh whooh

Carthage, NY

#13 Dec 8, 2012
boobie wrote:
Who got the money? Easy, whoever was buddy's with bob Sullivan. He's the biggest thief of them all and that's an accomplishment.
HERE IANOTHER TOPIX WITH NAMES ALSO THEIR IS ANOTHER LINK ON THAT TOPIX OF HUD REPORT WITH NAMES http://www.topix.com/forum/city/utica-ny/TD42... ALSO HERE IS THE REPORTS WITH EVERYTHING CLICK BLUE BOOK https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B0PKZdcSSiJ...
who cares

Herkimer, NY

#14 Dec 8, 2012
duke wrote:
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This comment was posted twice on the OD website but was not allowed to be published. What is wrong with this comment?
Its over. Forget it.
NU resident

Carthage, NY

#15 Dec 8, 2012
duke wrote:
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This comment was posted twice on the OD website but was not allowed to be published. What is wrong with this comment?
Absolutely nothing - you spoke the plain truth that all of us taxpapers have known for a long time.

Too bad the OD is too afraid to ruffle the feathers that their business is indebted to.
Santafaro

United States

#16 Dec 9, 2012
duke wrote:
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Fired immediately and issue a press release saying Mayor Rob was not involved and that these practices will not be tolerated in this city administration. Say it! "This type of graft and corruption will not be tolerated any longer in Utica New York."
Roefaro puuled the biggest taxpayer heist in Utica's history in misappropriating taxpayers money and rape and piligiging 10 million dollars in water board funds also and gets awat scott free.
Utica is a corrupt city

United States

#17 Dec 9, 2012
Taxpaers have no protection against Utica's Mayors or in the comptrollers office. It is spend at will taxpayers money for whatever they feel they can get away with. We have had the same crooks in there and ploicies for 30 years and Rob is still carring the brotherhood torch and code of silence.
rully

Syracuse, NY

#18 Dec 9, 2012
duke wrote:
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This comment was posted twice on the OD website but was not allowed to be published. What is wrong with this comment?
The OD reserves the right to not only edit letters to the editor if the editorial staff feels the paper is being maligned in any way, it can make the decision not to publish entire letters for the same reason. This happened time and time again during this past election. Candidate supporters were essentially shut down. Thank you Donna Donovan and staff
rully

Syracuse, NY

#19 Dec 9, 2012
duke wrote:
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The mayor should fire any department head who is involved in this miss-use of public money including whoever in the law office sanctioned this. Anyone who worked on this should be required to provide the necessary documentation so that we can make those who got the money pay back the CDBG money. Then they should be reprimanded and suspended without pay. We should halt all payments to anyone for anything until a full audit of this situation is complete. There should be an internal auditor on the city payroll not a connected outside contractor who might be controlled at all. Any department head hired by the city should have a financilal background college degree and be able to prove that they can handle their own money as well as the publics money. Everyone should be working on this except the city grant writer. We do have a city grant writer on staff. Don't we? I hope so.
This will never happen. Get real.
Utica is a corrupt city

United States

#20 Dec 9, 2012
It’s clear from recent reports and audits of Utica’s dealings with federal housing programs that the city needs to shore up its accounting practices. This is something Mayor Robert Palmieri needs to prioritize because the city’s issues with the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development have been a recurring nightmare for too many years.

ä A 1994 HUD audit ranked Utica’s Municipal Housing Authority the worst-run among upstate New York’s 51 authorities, citing instances of sloppy control of both money and inventory.

ä In December 2000, Robert Munson Jr., the city’s former director of housing, pleaded guilty in to embezzling $113,000 in federal funds from the city between 1994 and 1998. He was later sentenced to one year and a day in federal prison.

ä In 2002, Raymond Shanley, chief executive officer of Utica Community Action, Inc., was removed from that position for refusing to disclose financial information. A year later, Bradley D. Jones of Ridge Road, controller of UCAI, was given five years on probation and ordered to pay $63,064 in restitution after pleading guilty to a federal charge of embezzlement from a federally funded entity. As part of an agreement with the state Attorney General’s Office, both men are forbidden from ever again being non-profit employees nor volunteers with policy-making authority. Nor can they ever serve as trustees, officers or directors of any charitable trust,

ä In 2006, a HUD audit of the HOPE VI project found gross mismanagement, declaring that three years after being awarded a grant to revitalize the Cornhill community, the MHA was no where near reaching its goal. HUD criticized the MHA for alarming oversights in how public money is spent, finding a number of questionably practices. As a result, Rebuild Mohawk Valley, a subsidiary of the MHA that managed the HOPE VI grant, was removed from the project and Coordinator Steve Kambic's position was eliminated.

ä More recently, an audit of the MHA and Rebuild Mohawk Valley — requested by the MHA board — found several violations of board and federal policies, including an improper $50,000 loan to RMV, missing bid files and a lack of oversight on several items.

Less than two weeks ago, HUD criticized how the city spent and monitored federal grant money under former Mayor David Roefaro’s administration, including issues with GroWest, a nonprofit agency that was founded to perform housing rehabilitation in West Utica. HUD said that if the city cannot fix the issues or provide justification for how some of the money — including Community Development Block Grants — was spent, it might have to pay back up to $619,666.
whooh whooh

Carthage, NY

#21 Dec 9, 2012
Utica is a corrupt city wrote:
It’s clear from recent reports and audits of Utica’s dealings with federal housing programs that the city needs to shore up its accounting practices. This is something Mayor Robert Palmieri needs to prioritize because the city’s issues with the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development have been a recurring nightmare for too many years.
ä A 1994 HUD audit ranked Utica’s Municipal Housing Authority the worst-run among upstate New York’s 51 authorities, citing instances of sloppy control of both money and inventory.
ä In December 2000, Robert Munson Jr., the city’s former director of housing, pleaded guilty in to embezzling $113,000 in federal funds from the city between 1994 and 1998. He was later sentenced to one year and a day in federal prison.
ä In 2002, Raymond Shanley, chief executive officer of Utica Community Action, Inc., was removed from that position for refusing to disclose financial information. A year later, Bradley D. Jones of Ridge Road, controller of UCAI, was given five years on probation and ordered to pay $63,064 in restitution after pleading guilty to a federal charge of embezzlement from a federally funded entity. As part of an agreement with the state Attorney General’s Office, both men are forbidden from ever again being non-profit employees nor volunteers with policy-making authority. Nor can they ever serve as trustees, officers or directors of any charitable trust,
ä In 2006, a HUD audit of the HOPE VI project found gross mismanagement, declaring that three years after being awarded a grant to revitalize the Cornhill community, the MHA was no where near reaching its goal. HUD criticized the MHA for alarming oversights in how public money is spent, finding a number of questionably practices. As a result, Rebuild Mohawk Valley, a subsidiary of the MHA that managed the HOPE VI grant, was removed from the project and Coordinator Steve Kambic's position was eliminated.
ä More recently, an audit of the MHA and Rebuild Mohawk Valley — requested by the MHA board — found several violations of board and federal policies, including an improper $50,000 loan to RMV, missing bid files and a lack of oversight on several items.
Less than two weeks ago, HUD criticized how the city spent and monitored federal grant money under former Mayor David Roefaro’s administration, including issues with GroWest, a nonprofit agency that was founded to perform housing rehabilitation in West Utica. HUD said that if the city cannot fix the issues or provide justification for how some of the money — including Community Development Block Grants — was spent, it might have to pay back up to $619,666.
does anyone have a clue on how many business could have used the 15000 each to clean up the frontof there place with this money all the business on bleecker street and mohawk street or on james street and or Columbia square its a shame this money was missused and the benefiters should return the moneys

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