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Feb 4, 2014
 
hey truth where have you been? why is it taking you so long to answer my questions? Do you want to know why? Its because all of youre ranting about how much teachers and administrators cost the district are at best generalizations on your part. To very very few you might think you impress them with your bogus quotes backed by opinion of others,not facts. you make comments regarding salaries contract raises ,benefits and steps,but you cant come up with who receives steps and contract raises and you don't comment on how much retired employees have to pay for medical benefits. Answer those questions my fruity,flaming friend. Come on whats taking you so long? you must be ones of those trying to impress your boyfriend.
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Feb 4, 2014
 

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I'm here.
What are your questions?

If you want to talk about the Utica City School District let's start here. The OD got this info using FOIL:
http://www.uticaod.com/x1621727118/Search-the...

Here's another site with information:
http://www.teachersalaryinfo.com/new-york/tea...

It says this:
"Expenses
Expenditures on instruction:$76,521,000
Expenditures on teacher salary:$68,925,000
Expenditures on teacher benefits:$24,757,000
Expenditures per student:$591,000
Total expenditures:$118,740,000 "

If you total the teacher salary and benefit numbers you come up with $93682000 out of a budget just north of $130 million. That number does not include the mandatory contribution to the retirement system or administrator salary/benefits.

Are you trying to say that teachers don't get step increases in addition to negotiated raises.

As far as the retiree medical benefits I have this:
"The districtís current budget is about $130 million. Technically, covering the retiree benefits in full could mean a 50 percent increase in the tax levy, according to district figures explaining how spending increases affect the amount raised in taxes."
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"No estimate existed then on the added costs, but the numbers were worked out subsequently. In accounting terms, Uticaís retiree health care benefits liability is $189 million, more than half of which stems from the new benefits."
from:
http://www.uticaod.com/article/20100122/News/...

Utica City School District isn't really very transparent when it comes to teacher and administrator compensation. I rely on what I can get in forming my opinion.

Lastly, "bogus quotes"?
Please point me to where I ever used a bogus quote. If you can prove that I will apologize.

Here's a quote and I can assure you that it isn't bogus. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said it-
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

Again, what are your questions? I really can't understand most of your unintelligible post. The questioning of someone's sexuality certainly demonstrates your intelligence and the strength of your opinion though. I do get that part.
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Feb 5, 2014
 

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stop with your generalizations. Answer the questions mister know it all. what teachers got contract raises,what teachers received step increments. Did all teachers receive both contract raises and step increments. How much does it cost retired emplyees for health insurance. You claim teachers and administrators receive all these benefits,but you do not mention if there is a cost for them. You imply that these items are all free. And once again you claim that all teachers and all administrators receive raises and step increments. Listen up bone head you are wrong on all accounts. You generalize too much. you quote figures that are not accurate or at least not broken down and itemized. Stop your crying and bashing and get your facts straight you jealous bastard. These people on this forum think you are that kid who gets his lunch money taken from him. you probably now get your coffee money taken from you. now answer those questions
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Feb 5, 2014
 
You won't get honest answers from truth. Every post he responds to is an attack on public employees in general and teachers in particular. He spins his "facts" to support his arguments, but like any other right wing tea bagger, he doesn't let the TRUTH get in the way of his explanations. You can't reason with him, so take my advice and respond to him this way: "You're right. I make way too much money, I have a Cadillac health plan, a guaranteed pension and my summers off. I only work 6 hours a day, 180 days a year. I made a career choice as did you. Live with yours and STFU, or go back to school and become a teacher."
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Feb 6, 2014
 

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to educated and amused,you are 100% correct I couldn't have said it better.
truth is brain damaged

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Feb 7, 2014
 
this person is a complete clown. He despises all emplotees that work in any public sector employment.. if your are that jealous get yourself an education,Im sure they have non credit courses offered for people like you and your disability.
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Feb 7, 2014
 
truth is brain damaged wrote:
this person is a complete clown. He despises all emplotees that work in any public sector employment.. if your are that jealous get yourself an education,Im sure they have non credit courses offered for people like you and your disability.
I don't despise the individuals at all. I have friends and relatives that are teachers, administrators and other public sector employees. I despise what union control has done to the system at the expense of the taxpayers. I am not jealous either. I have an education. I chose a different path from teaching. That has nothing to do with my opinion.

It's been my experience that when someone can't refute the message, they attack the messenger.

For the person who asked me for answers about salaries, benefits and step increases there is an article in today's OD about the Utica City School District. It talks about how contractual agreements with unions are driving the budget and therefore tax increases.

Just as an aside I particularly like this. In it you infer that I'm uneducated:
" if your are that jealous get yourself an education"
The appropriate word is "you're". That's the contraction for "your are". "Your" is an adjective meaning relating to or belonging to you.
Who needs the education?
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#10
Feb 7, 2014
 
you must be from Green Bay because you sound like a flucking PACKER. go ahead and keep fooling yourself by believing what you want to believe. Unions? Over the last 3 contracts how much of raise did all teachers receive? as I said earlier youwill not answer my questions because you don't have the KNOWLEDGE. Oh by the Shecky Green that's histarical about the contraction and punctuation,Is that the best you can come up with. come up with the answesrs to the questions packer
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Feb 7, 2014
 
Truth wrote:
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I don't despise the individuals at all. I have friends and relatives that are teachers, administrators and other public sector employees. I despise what union control has done to the system at the expense of the taxpayers. I am not jealous either. I have an education. I chose a different path from teaching. That has nothing to do with my opinion.
It's been my experience that when someone can't refute the message, they attack the messenger.
For the person who asked me for answers about salaries, benefits and step increases there is an article in today's OD about the Utica City School District. It talks about how contractual agreements with unions are driving the budget and therefore tax increases.
Just as an aside I particularly like this. In it you infer that I'm uneducated:
" if your are that jealous get yourself an education"
The appropriate word is "you're". That's the contraction for "your are". "Your" is an adjective meaning relating to or belonging to you.
Who needs the education?
"You're" is the contraction for "you are" not "your are". Get a grip and a life dude.
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Feb 7, 2014
 
I will take educated and amused advise. So truth you can sober over my80000.00 per year pension along with my health insurancs and my social security. So Ok you are always right in everything you say. here! does that make you feel better
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Feb 8, 2014
 

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people just ignore truth. He likes to debate by using incorrect information information and tells only parts of statistics,not explaining the breakdowns to substantiate his bias views. And for you teachers and other public employees,god bless you for the work you do and the pensions you rightfully deserve

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