High speed train to avoid Utica.

High speed train to avoid Utica.

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Onewhoknows

Ithaca, NY

#1 Mar 12, 2014
Do you blame them for bypassing Utica? It will not include Utica in its plans. Another great job by our city.
yet again

Utica, NY

#2 Mar 12, 2014
but all the political blow hards were down there to celebrate...
ron

Utica, NY

#5 Mar 12, 2014
They spent 60 MILLION DOLLARS on ONE MILE of road but can't figure out how to remove TWO stoplights!!!!!! WTF????
flashing neon nut lights

Utica, NY

#7 Mar 12, 2014
all paid by government subsidies,
will surely bankrupt us.
will never gain any notable increase in passengers.
train passenger service always lost money since the advent of the automobile, then buses, then, air travel.
freight couldnt cover the loss anymore since heavy trucks took over most of the freight.
all unsafe design.
any law of physics proves the fuel will increase 3 fold with every 10 miles in speed above 50 miles per hour, its called friction.
let alone the outrageous cost of maintenance will be probably 10 times as much, dont believe the libs fabricated lies and figures.
poor people will have to fork out 10 times more per year for this moron nonsense.
molest children, do lots of drugs, and preach how god loves their kind of degenerates is how these crooks are raised.
Arterial Riggies

Wilmington, DE

#11 Mar 12, 2014
Then me an mammy had some clams we got from our EBT an obammy welfare.
Trax

Ardsley, NY

#17 Mar 12, 2014
I live south of the Utica-Rome area and drive to either one to board the train 3-4 times a year when I visit relatives. My father takes it for business in the city and currently drives to Albany to save time. I know a high speed train can't make a lot of stops or it defeats the purpose, but Albany- Syracuse is too long of a stretch.
teo cormac

Syracuse, NY

#18 Mar 12, 2014
Stupid people dream of high speed rail but then they realize it won't stop in their town and get depressed.

High speed rail is just some dopey boondoggle that is for people who have big dreams but small intellects drool as if they were Pavlov's pets.

High speed rail in the US would require a whole new infrastructure to the rail system that would require billions of dollars to complete for minimal return on the invested dollar. More than likely at a loss.

The legal fees alone to take over the needed land would lend themselves into the high millions. Not to mention the land rights that would be nullified by such eminent domain court actions.

High speed rail sounds good in the abstract but when reality enters the situation it all falls apart.

Except for that taking of land, maintenance costs, bonding costs, safety things and the low usage because of accumulated costs which would make the ticket price for the average person be uncompetitive versus air travel or a couple tanks of petrol.

High speed rail is one of the seemingly benign things that governments do as they try to create a totalitarian state. Mousillini made the trains run on time, Stalin created a rail system that isolated the Soviet Union from the rest of Europe.

Americans like their cars. They would use the rail system if it wasn't the equivalent of a third world monopoly with its $9 crappy burgers and six dollar bottles of beer.

I can imagine how wonderful it would be to travel through central New York at an extra ten to twenty miles per hour with less stops and I'm sure even pricier food and drink.

Of course I could just gas up my car, pack a lunch and drive to the exact place I wanted to go in less time than a "High Speed" train could get me there.

But high speed rail lives in the imagination of many people who demand that the government make their lives better.

Those people could charitably called suckers.
Chicken Riggies

Clifton Park, NY

#19 Mar 13, 2014
Trax wrote:
I live south of the Utica-Rome area and drive to either one to board the train 3-4 times a year when I visit relatives. My father takes it for business in the city and currently drives to Albany to save time. I know a high speed train can't make a lot of stops or it defeats the purpose, but Albany- Syracuse is too long of a stretch.
You could always move.

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