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Ollie

New Hartford, NY

#208 Dec 14, 2013
und wrote:
ND does not have great leadership. You would be hard pressed to find a supporter of that principle. ND has a great past that has kept it going. But each and every year that anna mae collins has been principle the school has digressed. Ask the kids what they think of her, ask the teachers what they think of her. Lets face it..if not for sports that school would be out of business. I'd be surprised is the school is open 5 years from now.
It's principal.
Wanda

Utica, NY

#209 Dec 14, 2013
JusticeDefiled13501 wrote:
After this week we will see who is who. At the end of the day none of this post has anything to do with the education of my child. ND provides a great education and great leadership and atmosphere. Anyone who is saying there leaving because of a corrupt school board member and his friend should just shut up and leave. We don't care about the football coach being fired or the basketball coach retiring after this year. Both my kids play sports and both will go to college no matter who is there coach. It's about having a great four years of high school and remembering the institution that gave it too you!
It is they're and their. Good Lord !
lol

Utica, NY

#210 Dec 14, 2013
Here is the real problem: In the past the Catholic Church bullied people into believing its crap. 2nd collection for the roof, 10% of your income to the church, catholic education for the kids, pay the priest cash to do your wedding etc.... If u didn't do these things, they would tell you u were going to hell and people believed them... They were scared.
In the present: social media and the internet exposed the priest scandals, the embezzlement and no one is afraid anymore because people are more educated overall! People see thru the smoke and mirrors.
All Utica notre dame is now: somewhere captain catholic bible beaters send their kids or a place to send your kids if u live in Utica and don't want them around minorities that aren't hand picked....
U gotta really have a lot of money, fear god or hate black people to justify 5 grand a yr sending your kid(s) there!
lol right

Apopka, FL

#211 Dec 14, 2013
Lol you're right. The church and the school covered this up. Abraham was let go by a nun and a school board parent. She gave into money and paid off the coach to resign. End of story .. typical Catholic cover up. Get in a new coach that can be controlled and one that plays gilroy as a TE. Nobody cares cuz its only a football team
Educated

Utica, NY

#212 Dec 14, 2013
I have sat and read all of your posts for the past few months and I cannot tolerate the ignorance any longer.

First of all, learn how to spell. It will help many of you at least sound more intelligent. Anna Mae is the current principal (al) and what many parents at Notre Dame are having concerns over is principle (le). Coincidentally, the two are linked.

Anna Mae suspended Coach Abraham over the very right afforded to him by the policy put in place BY THE SCHOOL'S OWN ATHLETIC CODE. The code is clear regarding a coach's right to sit an athlete for missing a practice, regardless of reason. Parents and athletes all sign the code. When someone does what is right for others regardless of his or her personal feelings, that is principle. So, to do what Anna Mae did was self serving in every way.

Jim Joseph was given the title of Board President for which he is compensated $40,000. He has the checks written to local charities to avoid paying taxes. For those of you that believe he does not receive financial gains from this leads me to believe you are more ignorant than I give you credit for. As a "struggling" private school, I believe this money could be better utilized. Perhaps it could offset the need for the annual tuition increases.

Jim Joseph and the administration insist enrollment is up. While more students may be coming to ND, ask your child where their classmates are, because many are leaving or have left. Those are the numbers you won't find reported anywhere. The graduating class is 41, compared to 66 last year. There are 38 students in the 7th grade class.

Jim Joseph and Vin Gilroy were college roommates who apparently feel that acting like immature college age males does not grow old. Yes, Vin Gilroy ordered the "Code Red" because his kid sat a game. Jim went along with it to help his buddy, while Anna Mae jumped on a reason to rid herself of a man that finally stood up to her and refused to be controlled. A man who stood for what he believed in, stood by his word to his athletes, and stood for the safety of all players concerned; All with nothing to gain personally, but with everything to lose. Few of you who hide behind the computer screen, in addition to people anywhere these days, would dare do so.

I believe we can all agree that the above items are evidence of corrupt tactics used by those with power. Those of you that feel this is a "football issue" are seriously blinded by complacency. Today it doesn't affect your kid or your own family. But tomorrow it may; and when it does, what will you do? Will the issue of what is happening to the leadership at Notre Dame suddenly become important to you? What if this was the drama coach or band director? What if it was your child's favorite teacher? Perhaps then, those "few" parents who had the foresight to see the beginning of the end and are hoping to restore the integrity that Notre Dame once stood for, won't seem so outrageous. The future of Notre Dame was spelled out in a letter sent home to parents where it didn't mention "school" or "family environment," but clearly said "corporation." If this is what you want for your children, then everyone has choices. I didn't send my children to Notre Dame to become clients.

Those who are part of the board or administration who have sat back and watched others make decisions on your behalf, without your input, shame on you for not having the backbone to stand up for what you believe in, what you feel is morally correct. Those of you who consider yourself part of the Notre Dame family, yet continue to say this doesn't concern you because it's not "your kid," how dare you. As a "family" we don't turn our back on anyone. We stand for what is right. This isn't about football at all. This is about ethics, values, and principle. All of which Coach Abraham stood for. Isn't that what is lacking in public schools? Ironically, isn't that the very reason why we send our kids to Notre Dame?
slim

Utica, NY

#213 Dec 14, 2013
You are correct. Its ashame the school, board, teachers, and parents condone this. I am not a fan of byron. This is probably due to me going to school and playing football with him. However, I do know right from wrong. What sister anna maria, jim joseph, and gilroy did is a disgrace. I am ashame I went to the school. Unfortunately, this will kill the school.
SUPER

Tampa, FL

#214 Dec 14, 2013
Wow....might as well end on that...that sums up what this is all about. ND better wake up
ND parent

Whitesboro, NY

#215 Dec 14, 2013
Coach Bogard: "Hello Mr. Gilroy? Its your Coach. Sorry to bother you sir. I just wanted to know how many times you want us to throw the ball to JP tomorrow."

Vin Gilroy: "Do you need to ask? Every time."

Coach Bogard: "Yes sir. I don't mean to be a nuisance sir, but could throw it to the Rocci boy once or twice too? It would help keep me out of the Principals office on Monday."

Vin Gilroy: "That's not my problem, it's yours. If you have a thorough bred, you don't leave him in the barn Danny. Ride him, and he will put this school on the map."

Coach Bogard: "Of course, you are right sir. My apologies sir."

Vin Gilroy: "And do not ever turn in the stat sheets without my approval again, Danny. I want to JP to have the stats he deserves, got it?"

Coach Bogard: "Yes sir."

Vin Gilroy: "And don't ever call me at home again Danny or I'll have your man parts removed. It disturbs JP's home environment and he needs his rest. He is a high performance machine."

Coach Bogard: "My apologies sir. Won't happen again."
SUPER

Tampa, FL

#216 Dec 14, 2013
Ok..that was funny....but probably the case
jeff l

Tampa, FL

#217 Dec 14, 2013
Hard to believe if anyone from the current staff stays. They know how anna mae and gene work. Why would they stay knowing what happened to abraham. The entire staff was in agreement with the decision not to play the kids. They should have sat out the week with abraham. Anyone who stays will be a puppet to anna mae gene and gilroy. Watch out for vermin parents like flynt and gilroy and rocci
JusticeDefiled13 502

Glenfield, NY

#218 Dec 14, 2013
To Mr. Educated. You clearly say to those of you who beleive this is only about football think again. But every topic of your rant leads to football. It's funny you sound just like Mr. Abraham literally word for word.

To ND parent:
You also sound just like Mr. Abraham. Please tell me how is this so? Can it be that you are friends of his?

LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!
Take your children and run please! We all are sick of listening to all of Mr. Abrahams goons. Do you think ND gave this man money to resign to save face for the school or maybe to save face for the real issues? Do you really beleive this was about ROTC are we all that oblivious? Keep listening to all the lies that you are getting jammed in your ears by the all mighty football coach. We all know that has done wonders for you all so far.
mr abraham

Tampa, FL

#220 Dec 14, 2013
I wish I could write like that
Former ND supporter

Herkimer, NY

#221 Dec 15, 2013
JusticeDefiled13502 wrote:
To Mr. Educated. You clearly say to those of you who beleive this is only about football think again. But every topic of your rant leads to football. It's funny you sound just like Mr. Abraham literally word for word.
To ND parent:
You also sound just like Mr. Abraham. Please tell me how is this so? Can it be that you are friends of his?
LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!
Take your children and run please! We all are sick of listening to all of Mr. Abrahams goons. Do you think ND gave this man money to resign to save face for the school or maybe to save face for the real issues? Do you really beleive this was about ROTC are we all that oblivious? Keep listening to all the lies that you are getting jammed in your ears by the all mighty football coach. We all know that has done wonders for you all so far.
Why does the truth incense you so?
jesup

Tampa, FL

#222 Dec 15, 2013
He can't handle the truth
jeff

Tampa, FL

#223 Dec 15, 2013
So who did ND hire as coach? Is it Bogard or Rosati? Or are they hiring outside coach ?
Bingo

Utica, NY

#224 Dec 16, 2013
JusticeDefiled13502 wrote:
To Mr. Educated. You clearly say to those of you who beleive this is only about football think again. But every topic of your rant leads to football. It's funny you sound just like Mr. Abraham literally word for word.
To ND parent:
You also sound just like Mr. Abraham. Please tell me how is this so? Can it be that you are friends of his?
LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!
Take your children and run please! We all are sick of listening to all of Mr. Abrahams goons. Do you think ND gave this man money to resign to save face for the school or maybe to save face for the real issues? Do you really beleive this was about ROTC are we all that oblivious? Keep listening to all the lies that you are getting jammed in your ears by the all mighty football coach. We all know that has done wonders for you all so far.
You drink your kool-aid, we'll drink ours. The school is hiding something? Another cover up? Say it isn't so. The nun could not take getting dragged thru the social media muck for 3 weeks and there was nothing anyone could do to change her mind on the matter. Missing raffle money? Laughable. Let us not forget Mr. Gilroy's history here and he STILL represents your school and is making decision regarding its future. I am sick of listening to your inuendos and the agenda the principal and board have laid out as gospel. Good leaders don't divide and conquer, they communicate and build cohesiveness. Your $$ campaign was over before it even began.
Thank you

Utica, NY

#225 Dec 16, 2013
JusticeDefiled13502 wrote:
To Mr. Educated. You clearly say to those of you who beleive this is only about football think again. But every topic of your rant leads to football. It's funny you sound just like Mr. Abraham literally word for word.
To ND parent:
You also sound just like Mr. Abraham. Please tell me how is this so? Can it be that you are friends of his?
LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!
Take your children and run please! We all are sick of listening to all of Mr. Abrahams goons. Do you think ND gave this man money to resign to save face for the school or maybe to save face for the real issues? Do you really beleive this was about ROTC are we all that oblivious? Keep listening to all the lies that you are getting jammed in your ears by the all mighty football coach. We all know that has done wonders for you all so far.
Thank you for making it perfectly clear that you lump everyone with a dissenting opinion into a group of "goons." Thank you also for pointing out exactly why millions have left the church. Wasn't there something in the news about the church paying people off to go away and cover up? Is that what you are implying ND did here? Are you saying they paid him to resign in order to hide something? Finally, thank you for pointing out why I would never send my kids to ND with people like you in the mix. Arrogant and judgemental.

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