Tier 6 Pension Plan Will Hurt Teacher...

Tier 6 Pension Plan Will Hurt Teacher Recruitment!

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Utica Teacher

Utica, NY

#1 Feb 26, 2012
Now these people will pursue careers in Medicine!
George

Milwaukee, WI

#2 Feb 27, 2012
Boo Hoo the gravy train needs to be stoped.
Truth is

New York, NY

#3 Feb 27, 2012
Oh well. These are the times we live in. If they don't like the compensation offered, don't become teachers.
George

Milwaukee, WI

#4 Feb 27, 2012
agreed - where do you work for 3 years get a job for life and can retire at a early age and get benefits for the rest of your life. Not many places. If you do not like the job or the pay quit and find another job
freebie the bean

New Hartford, NY

#5 Feb 27, 2012
It's already an overcrowded field. There will be no drop-off in candidates...not for a job where you work 9 months a year and have your summers off.
dumbum

New York, NY

#6 Feb 27, 2012
freebie the bean wrote:
It's already an overcrowded field. There will be no drop-off in candidates...not for a job where you work 9 months a year and have your summers off.
They work at least 10 months since school is September thru June
Best Gig Going

Cortland, NY

#8 Feb 27, 2012
freebie the bean wrote:
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But with all the add-ons, the X-mas holiday, Thanksgiving holiday, all the unused snow days, all Monday holiday weekends they also get a half-day the Friday before for some bullshit teachers conf.,...it works out to about 9 months.
Yeah and the hours aren't bad either.
dumbum

New York, NY

#9 Feb 27, 2012
freebie the bean wrote:
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But with all the add-ons, the X-mas holiday, Thanksgiving holiday, all the unused snow days, all Monday holiday weekends they also get a half-day the Friday before for some bullshit teachers conf.,...it works out to about 9 months.
Still, you are wrong. You are forgetting to include the hours they spend at home correcting tests, looking over homework assignments, preparing material for the next day, week, and all the rest of the work they do outside the classroom.

You may not think they work as hard as you do at Arby's, but they do.
George

Milwaukee, WI

#10 Feb 27, 2012
Right teachers are the hardest workers I have ever seen. if they think they are that great get rid of the unions and tenure and see how long they would last is a real setting. Any teacher who can not correct their papers in scholls is doing something wrong- it is not like they teach non stop all day long.
Lou Sir

New York, NY

#11 Feb 27, 2012
George wrote:
Right teachers are the hardest workers I have ever seen. if they think they are that great get rid of the unions and tenure and see how long they would last is a real setting. Any teacher who can not correct their papers in scholls is doing something wrong- it is not like they teach non stop all day long.
Are you just mad at teachers because they held you back in the third grade 4 times? Get over it, teachers are smarter than you and work, unlike suckholes like you.
please

Saranac Lake, NY

#12 Feb 27, 2012
dumbum wrote:
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Still, you are wrong. You are forgetting to include the hours they spend at home correcting tests, looking over homework assignments, preparing material for the next day, week, and all the rest of the work they do outside the classroom.
You may not think they work as hard as you do at Arby's, but they do.
ROFLMAO. Most of the high school teachers I know work 4 out of 8 periods at best. How many times do you need to create the same lesson plan after a few years on the job? Great pension... I dare those teachers who complain to quit and see what its like on the other side.
Lou Sir

New York, NY

#13 Feb 27, 2012
please wrote:
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ROFLMAO. Most of the high school teachers I know work 4 out of 8 periods at best. How many times do you need to create the same lesson plan after a few years on the job? Great pension... I dare those teachers who complain to quit and see what its like on the other side.
Then you are admitting you don't know any teachers
fishstick1

New York, NY

#14 Feb 27, 2012
tier 6 is the way to go.If teachers are so concerned about teaching the children, they wouldnt be complaining about benifits .remember "its for the children"not the teachers .give up a little "for the children"
spell checker

New York, NY

#15 Feb 27, 2012
George wrote:
Boo Hoo the gravy train needs to be stoped.
Before you stop the train, learn how to spell- it's stopped.
Learn about it

New York, NY

#16 Feb 27, 2012
fishstick1 wrote:
tier 6 is the way to go.If teachers are so concerned about teaching the children, they wouldnt be complaining about benifits .remember "its for the children"not the teachers .give up a little "for the children"
The major difference with Tier 6 from the earlier tiers is that employees in Tier 6 have to continue paying into their pension for as long as they are employed. The earlier tiers were fully vested after 10 years and no longer paid in, it was completely 100% paid into by their employer, which was paid by the taxpayers. Tier 6 is long overdue. Much of the early Tiers having the 10 year max was a gift from Mario Cuomo, a gift we can no longer afford.

Besides, if those who go into teaching for the right reasons, they are concerned with what they should be, educating our youth.
JOJO

New Hartford, NY

#17 Feb 27, 2012
They'll be going into medicine allright. THey'll be making bandaides in a factory.They've got it dicked and all know it.
TELL ME

Camillus, NY

#18 Feb 27, 2012
JOJO U MUST OF FAILED ALOT TO BE A JERK THAT U ARE
Winters in Florida

Utica, NY

#19 Feb 27, 2012
I am a Retired Teacher on Tier 1, love my Pension,I get 75% of My salary for life! thanks Taxpayers!!!!
hank the tank

Cortland, NY

#20 Feb 28, 2012
I don't understand why you haters aren't jumping on the gravy train. Go ahead, quit your fast food job, go back to school, get your degree, student teach (sorry, no pay there), get your Master's Degree and join the fun. You'll be set for life, sipping champagne on your yacht.
And if you get back on here after that and tell us how easy it is in the teaching profession, then you suck as a teacher. The good ones work hard and love every minute of it.
Keep Same benefits

Utica, NY

#21 Feb 28, 2012
Tier 6 is Bad, less benefits!

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