North-South Arterial Project

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United States

#1 Mar 31, 2009
What do you think of it? It does have some pros and cons to it. Personally I think it's a waste of money plus the fact that some folks will have to be forced to move to make room for it.
Crazy Man

Camillus, NY

#2 Mar 31, 2009
It should have been a raised road when they built it. The wierd part is that they did nothing about it untill the population dropped and a recession started. We needed something to be done when we had a viable downtown. Its just like building Rt. 840 after the airport died. Its Crazy, Man.
question

Rome, NY

#3 Mar 31, 2009
I'm not sure I understand the real reason for it... the arterial isn't in nearly as bad of shape as most of the other streets in Utica. I know a lot of people use it but it isn't nearly as riddled w/ potholes as some others. Is it a structural problem w/ bridges or something?
Crazy Man

Camillus, NY

#4 Apr 1, 2009
question wrote:
I'm not sure I understand the real reason for it... the arterial isn't in nearly as bad of shape as most of the other streets in Utica. I know a lot of people use it but it isn't nearly as riddled w/ potholes as some others. Is it a structural problem w/ bridges or something?
They are trying to make it safer, and get rid of some of the stupid stop lights. It is unsafe because it splits the city in half and is a danger for pedestrians, and it slows traffic. It would be like having stop lights on the thruway. Only in Utica could this have been built like this.
Speed Racer

Cortland, NY

#5 Jul 10, 2010
Be very careful crossing the arterial because ppl are not stopping for these lights going north & south on rt.12. Everytime i go to proceed at the green light here comes some dick speeding thru the light way after it has turned red. Stop running the lights before you kill more ppl non-driving cnyers.
utica club

United States

#7 Jul 10, 2010
it does not meet state codes.
AboutTime

United States

#8 Jul 11, 2010
No it doesn't meet state codes, and the bridge before court street has reached the end of its time. They had to make the decision to revamp the bridge there or to build new and continue with a raised highway. The cost to do either is about the same, so why not do it right this time around.
really

Newport, NY

#9 Jul 11, 2010
It is a ridiculous waste of money at this point - they are only considering it because there's grant money... the problem is less the cars and more the idiot pedestrians that skateboard across against the light. The Big Red Hand means DON'T cross... to fix this "road to nowhere" right not is stupid when the city has a rotting water system just waiting to give way. Another idea intended to fool the public into thinking progress is being made - there is no reason to GET OFF the arterial... if there was, I could see that it might be worth the effort. All this project will do is create more problems and less safety because of the frustration levels during the construction.
Forenza

Gloversville, NY

#10 Jul 12, 2010
Those speed limit 40 signs are cute but I ignore them. God wanted it to be 55, that's why his church is there.
Casual Observer

Cortland, NY

#11 Jul 12, 2010
I was riding my moped down there and almost got klilled! You jerks better learn respect or I will get my gun and teach it to you!
Jigga

Utica, NY

#12 Jul 12, 2010
Casual Observer you are a douche-you've been going on every thread writing something stupid-get a job ya prick!
Jigga

Locke, NY

#13 Jul 12, 2010
I am off to blow my dog. Anyone want to join me. I have some good dope!?

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#14 Jun 14, 2014
Five years later and it's still not done.
ron

Utica, NY

#15 Jun 15, 2014
They're spending $40,000,000, and when they're done there will still be two stoplights on the Arterial: $40,000,000 to eliminate three stoplights.

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#18 Jun 15, 2014
road rage wrote:
<quoted text> they just started the project last spring.... Where did you learn to count????????
You looked at the date of the original post correct?

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#21 Jun 15, 2014
road rage wrote:
<quoted text> I seriously doubt that when someone posted on topix had anything to do with when they actually started work on the project. It is a 4 year project.
So then it's a nine year project then.
One who knows

New Hartford, NY

#22 Jun 15, 2014
Crazy Man wrote:
<quoted text>
They are trying to make it safer, and get rid of some of the stupid stop lights. It is unsafe because it splits the city in half and is a danger for pedestrians, and it slows traffic. It would be like having stop lights on the thruway. Only in Utica could this have been built like this.
When the arterial was originally built, it WAS designed without any stop lights on it. BUT, at that time (in the 50s) West Utica was a working class area and the majority of them complained they would not have any access to the other parts of the City. That is the REAL reason why there are so many stop signs on the Arterial.

Little did the State forsee 50 years into the future to see what West Utica has turned into now - a crime infested cess pool.

With the "new" Arterial, West Utica will be walled off - it is about time.
One who knows

New Hartford, NY

#23 Jun 15, 2014
Forenza wrote:
Those speed limit 40 signs are cute but I ignore them. God wanted it to be 55, that's why his church is there.
Read what will happened to your pocketbook and license if you don't obey these signs! Hope you are rich enough to pay them.

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#24 Jun 15, 2014
Just from yesterday's OD.

http://www.uticaod.com/article/20140614/NEWS/...

Arterial woes

“The North-South Arterial is not an arterial, it’s just another street,” says Utica Police Inspector Patrick Orsino, of the Traffic Division. Many agree with Orsino that safety conditions on the highway between Court and Oswego streets are not good. Since the arterial opened last August, there have been two pedestrian fatalities and many vehicle accidents.

West Utica Councilman Vincent J. Wereszynski suggests reducing the speed limit from 40 to 25 miles per hour between Court and Oswego. Orsino says reducing the speed limit is unrealistic and would be impossible for police to enforce. Franklin Moon, district engineer with the state Department of Public Works, agrees and adds,“The state does not build 25-miles-an-hour highways.” Orsino suggests eliminating grade crossings at Court, Warren, Noyes and Sunset by erecting viaducts to handle traffic crossing the arterial.
One who knows

New Hartford, NY

#25 Jun 15, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
Just from yesterday's OD.
http://www.uticaod.com/article/20140614/NEWS/...
Arterial woes
“The North-South Arterial is not an arterial, it’s just another street,” says Utica Police Inspector Patrick Orsino, of the Traffic Division. Many agree with Orsino that safety conditions on the highway between Court and Oswego streets are not good. Since the arterial opened last August, there have been two pedestrian fatalities and many vehicle accidents.
West Utica Councilman Vincent J. Wereszynski suggests reducing the speed limit from 40 to 25 miles per hour between Court and Oswego. Orsino says reducing the speed limit is unrealistic and would be impossible for police to enforce. Franklin Moon, district engineer with the state Department of Public Works, agrees and adds,“The state does not build 25-miles-an-hour highways.” Orsino suggests eliminating grade crossings at Court, Warren, Noyes and Sunset by erecting viaducts to handle traffic crossing the arterial.
This article was dated 1964 - 50 years ago!!!!! It is now being done (finally).

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