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BOSS

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4 members of the maintenance department have been fired after being accused of stealing hundreds of man hours with a time clock scheme. Fx matt upper management had authorized private investigators to investigate claims of fraud. Their names are Carmen Gianotti, local teamsters 182 union steward. Lester Doolen local teamsters 182 union steward. John Grosso and Ted Swelgin. Mr. Doolen and Mr swelgen were both less than 3 years from retirement but could now potentially face charges of falsifying business documents. The investigation is ongoing.
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Feb 20, 2014
 
Wow!!
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One of the best places to work around here for wages and bennies and these fools still want more....greedy, greedy, greedy.
Ungrateful Italians

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......all are part of the Utica Family and Friends plan. A minority wouldn't even have a CHANCE to be hired. #Facts
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Feb 21, 2014
 
Ungrateful Italians wrote:
......all are part of the Utica Family and Friends plan. A minority wouldn't even have a CHANCE to be hired.#Facts
Can you get your friend,
eddy lew a job there?
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Unless you walk in their shoes STOP JUDGING THESE MEN! We all make mistakes but some of us are lucky enough not to get caught! Keep your rude comments to yourself!
Smarter than you

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The chips have fallen and 2 have been terminated and 2 have a lengthy suspension before being allowed to return to work, if they even do. One of the things the OP failed to post is that Carmen Gianotti was not only a Shop Steward with the Local 182, but was was the Chief Steward for the entire FX Matt Brewery. A position he held for 10+/- years. He also held/holds a senior management position on the Executive Board of the Local 182. So many people put their faith in this man who after being accused of theft and fraud decided to throw every single member of his union under the proverbial bus. Coward is the only way to describe anyone who takes a 125 year old company for granted and then drags all of its employees through the mud afterward. What a POS.

As for minorities, times are changing so if you're a talented minority, I hear there are opportunities for a few good mechanics.
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why do union leaders seem to think they can play that game. This hurts unions when their elected officials do that sort of slime. This seems to happen much in union business much like the organized criminal sitting at a job site doing nothing ,like it was portrayed in the Sopranos.
ILoVeThEuNiOn

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they were entitled to the extra the Matt Brewery makes millions of dollars and the Matt family is rich. why can' the workers be rich too. the union should defend these people no matter what they did. go union!
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Mar 5, 2014
 
ILoVeThEuNiOn wrote:
they were entitled to the extra the Matt Brewery makes millions of dollars and the Matt family is rich. why can' the workers be rich too. the union should defend these people no matter what they did. go union!
Then a better contract needs to be negotiated. There is a RIGHT way and a WRONG way to get rich. Stealing, lying, cheating and fraud is not the RIGHT way. You can't possibly condone crime as a way of "getting even" with the owners of the company? The union's job is to work WITH a company to get the best possible conditions for its members in a fair and equitable manner. One for ALL and ALL for one.
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Stop judging wrote:
Unless you walk in their shoes STOP JUDGING THESE MEN! We all make mistakes but some of us are lucky enough not to get caught! Keep your rude comments to yourself!
Like everything else a "mistake" is when you do it once. When you continue to do it time after time, it's fraud. When people say they're sorry, they are only sorry they got caught. They weren't sorry when they were doing it. Like every union out there it's always ok to do something against what the Dept. of Labor rules are. They will turn a blind eye if it's union related BUT if a non-union employee does it a union rep will be screaming and turning them in. Lets see how the union stands behind these criminals.
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Stop judging wrote:
Unless you walk in their shoes STOP JUDGING THESE MEN! We all make mistakes but some of us are lucky enough not to get caught! Keep your rude comments to yourself!
Walk in their shoes? Oh you mean decades of pay & benefits from one of the better employers in the area to the point that they thought they were invincible? You're right, I'll stop judging criminals because I have not yet passed the bar in NYS. I will however continue to pass judgement on their character. Thieves, liars and cheats should all be handled the same when they make the majority of honest hardworking New Yorkers look like shit to owners and management alike. I am a true believer in "he who lives in glass house should not throw stones" but these guys had their cake and decided eating it was not enough. You are the one that should pick your friends as carefully as you pick your nose because these bad apples will likely lead you astray as well. Then you will no longer be lucky but will have been caught. Also, if it wasn't for rude comments, TOPIX would not exist. So let the bashing continue.
ILoVeThEuNiOn

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the Matts are rich and there company makes a lot of money the workers are entitled to the money they are owed! they do there job and work hard
they should arrest the Matts for being to rich!

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Another example of the “Entitlement Generation”. They are rich so we are entitled to some of that money. This is really just warped morality. When you take something you did not earn it is called stealing. It doesn’t matter how rich the person you steal from is, it is still stealing.
Dumb and Dumber

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ILoVeThEuNiOn wrote:
the Matts are rich and there company makes a lot of money the workers are entitled to the money they are owed! they do there job and work hard
they should arrest the Matts for being to rich!
LOL - You must work THERE with your inability to know the difference between THEIR company and THEIR job and being TOO stupid to care. Congrats Union Troll. There is a special place reserved for you in the corner of your 4th grade class with a pointy hat that says DUNCE. You should be arrested for being DUMB & DUMBER all in one.
Union Buster

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ILoVeThEuNiOn wrote:
the Matts are rich and there company makes a lot of money the workers are entitled to the money they are owed! they do there job and work hard
they should arrest the Matts for being to rich!
Are you serious?? "They should arrest the Matts for being too rich"

This family has run a successful company in this area for generations. They have employed thousands of people over the years, and have paid millions in taxes not to mention their generosity to local charities.

You my ignorant friend are nothing more than an employee, come in put your 8 hours in and go home!! If you don't like it, invest your own money, take the risk of losing everything you have and start your own company!! When one of YOUR employees steals from YOU we will see if your position changes!!

It is attitudes like yours that has caused the steady decline of unions over the last 50 years!! Keep up the good work!!
ILoVeThEuNiOn

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why is it ok when the government takes money from rich people then? people should be able to do the same thing from who they work for. what if people don't have enough money

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If I hire someone to mow my lawn should I pay them based on the work they do or based on how much money I make? When I go to the gas station should I pay more for gas than those who make less than I do? Labor is a commodity. Why would any business pay more than they have to pay? They aren’t charged more for other items based on their owner’s net worth.
Dumb and Dumber

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Mar 5, 2014
 
ILoVeThEuNiOn wrote:
why is it ok when the government takes money from rich people then? people should be able to do the same thing from who they work for. what if people don't have enough money
The Government (speaking of the USG) does not "take" money from the rich. There are things such as taxes that are used and the rich pay their FAIR share. People do in fact "take" money from whom they work in the form of salaries and benefits. Fair pay for fair work. There was an fair hourly wage that was agreed to by the UNION and employees are expected to earn that wage. Just like any other job. Cash out for services rendered. Should there be a fee for simply entering the mall and not purchasing anything? Still have to pay the janitorial staff that keeps it clean. Still have to pay security. Still have to pay for the lights and heat/ac. The owners of the mall should be able to "take" your money for using their services. The people that you are defending had a job and were able to earn a fair living but chose to defraud their employer and break not only their union contract but the law. Do you defend all criminals are only those involving a union? Rapists and Child Molesters? Are they OK with you too? Using your logic, they don't get enough sexual gratification at home so therefore must be owed some more by an innocent bystander. Take it, even if it's not yours. You got dealt a bad hand in life and are bit dim, not my fault. My wife likes jewelery so I can just take it from the same mall that's charging me just to walk in. Find a better cause to defend and love the union all you like but at least present some sense when speak out.
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ILoVeThEuNiOn wrote:
why is it ok when the government takes money from rich people then? people should be able to do the same thing from who they work for. what if people don't have enough money
Find another job! I'm sure they can afford cigarette's or beer or smart phones though. Boy what a concept; let's rip off all the "rich" people we work for. They have so much money they'll never notice . What a bunch of dirt bags.

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